Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/04/2010 05:59:34, Robert Noland wrote: > On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 15:18 +0100, Bruce Simpson wrote: >> On 04/10/10 02:31, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> >>> Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some >>> others and I, felt that these idea

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-11 Thread Julian Elischer
s are so great... tell ya what -- make me and other folks believers: You know young fellow, your attitude is kind of annoying for a topic that is just up for discussion. 1. Produce a port with the magic PBI producing tool. I hope to be able to do this soon. 2. Produce directions on how to use

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Garrett Cooper
revision packages with unshared dependencies, or are all of the dependencies updated at once? This becomes a big issue as you can't have dissimilar applications like dbus, gamin, openssh, etc running on the same system at one time. How does the PBI layout plan to deal with this kind of conflict

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Robert Noland
On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 15:18 +0100, Bruce Simpson wrote: > On 04/10/10 02:31, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some > > others and I, felt that these ideas seemed to make some sense > > and so I put them here for comment. > > Please do. Someone has

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
tions at a sane level. > > Kernel development could (just like it is on the Macs) be done in some > kind of virtualization context. > > My own experience with helping people who try to run FreeBSD-CURRENT with > an up-to-date ports tree is that there are far too many moving parts for

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Mark Linimon
done in some kind of virtualization context. My own experience with helping people who try to run FreeBSD-CURRENT with an up-to-date ports tree is that there are far too many moving parts for it to be dependable. (For more on how often ports get broken by changes in -CURRENT, see http

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Tim Kientzle
Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: I do have a question, assuming PBI's were merged officially into the FreeBSD ports tree, say I had PostgreSQL Server installed, via PBI. then I wanted to tweak a setting so I: cd /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/ && make deinstall clean would th

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Tim Kientzle
Julian Elischer wrote: On 4/10/10 12:07 PM, Tim Kientzle wrote: [1] Actually, PBI might work just fine even for embedded if we address the disk bloat issue. One approach would be to make /Package/Bar/libfoo-2.8.7.so a symlink or hardlink to /Package/Shared/libfoo-2.8.7.so- This gives easy sharin

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
ut there hasn't been a new release of A that works with B7.2. So I now simply cannot have both C1.0 and A2.7 installed at the same time because they require different versions of B. PBI avoids both of these problems. It may be unsuitable for embedded systems[1], but I see no reason we sho

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Tim Kientzle
't been a new release of A that works with B7.2. So I now simply cannot have both C1.0 and A2.7 installed at the same time because they require different versions of B. PBI avoids both of these problems. It may be unsuitable for embedded systems[1], but I see no reason we should not ext

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
th. We instead try to write more > and more complex package resolvers, > > while failing to address the main issue, that with such a complex chain of > dependencies for something as simple > > as upgrading firefox, it increases the chances exponentially that something > wil

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
e problems, but there doesn't seem to be a clear defined set of what is wrong. IMO, there should be a defined set of goals to judge possible implementations against. Let me start by saying FreeBSD ports is by far the best system I have used to date. but as good as it is, there is room

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 10:36 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: I do have a question, assuming PBI's were merged officially into the FreeBSD ports tree, say I had PostgreSQL Server installed, via PBI. then I wanted to tweak a setting so I: cd /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/&& make de

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 7:18 AM, Bruce Simpson wrote: On 04/10/10 02:31, Julian Elischer wrote: Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some others and I, felt that these ideas seemed to make some sense and so I put them here for comment. Please do. Someone has to do something about deploymen

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread kris
creases the chances exponentially that something will break and ruin your day / weekend. >> PBIs only comprise a small set of packages in FreeBSD; if my >> understanding is correct based on a mirror referenced in pbidir.com, >> the number is currently under 500~750 PBIs -- this i

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Bruce Simpson
On 04/10/10 02:31, Julian Elischer wrote: Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some others and I, felt that these ideas seemed to make some sense and so I put them here for comment. Please do. Someone has to do something about deployment. For what it's worth, I've tripped over

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Garrett Cooper
e >>>>> and so I put them here for comment. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> FWIW, when I see these discussions I'm always left wondering what's the >>>> bad >>>> part?  I do think there are problems, but there doesn't se

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
e a defined set of goals to judge possible implementations against. Let me start by saying FreeBSD ports is by far the best system I have used to date. but as good as it is, there is room for improvement. Being a FreeBSD user now for many years, one thing I think would be nice is: being able

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
7;m always left wondering what's the bad >>> part?  I do think there are problems, but there doesn't seem to be a clear >>> defined set of what is wrong.   IMO, there should be a defined set of goals >>> to judge possible implementations against. >> >> >>

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Garrett Cooper
t seem to be a clear >> defined set of what is wrong.   IMO, there should be a defined set of goals >> to judge possible implementations against. > > > Let me start by saying FreeBSD ports is by far the best system I have > used to date. > but as good as it is, there is room

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-09 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
; to judge possible implementations against. Let me start by saying FreeBSD ports is by far the best system I have used to date. but as good as it is, there is room for improvement. Being a FreeBSD user now for many years, one thing I think would be nice is: being able to have easier access to deve

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-09 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > sorry for the cross-post.. > > Last night at the Bay Area FreeBSD Users Group meeting we had > a discussion about ports, and what is good about them and what > is bad about them. This has been a topic of discussion quite a

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-09 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some > others and I, felt that these ideas seemed to make some sense > and so I put them here for comment. > > FWIW, when I see these discussions I'm always left wondering what's the ba

ports and PBIs

2010-04-09 Thread Julian Elischer
sorry for the cross-post.. Last night at the Bay Area FreeBSD Users Group meeting we had a discussion about ports, and what is good about them and what is bad about them. This has been a topic of discussion quite a bit recently and we were looking for a solution that would allow us to keep the

Re: BIND from system and from ports

2010-04-09 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, Eir Nym wrote: All is good in BIND in system, except it depends on ports tree with various options. I have to do followed algorithm, to enable these options: 1) make and install base system 2) install needed dependencies from ports tree There is another step here, enable

Re: BIND from system and from ports

2010-04-07 Thread Arseny Nasokin
On 7 Apr 2010, at 13:47, Eir Nym wrote: All is good in BIND in system, except it depends on ports tree with various options. WITH_BIND_XML and WITH_BIND_IDN I have to do followed algorithm, to enable these options: 1) make and install base system 2) install needed dependencies from ports

BIND from system and from ports

2010-04-07 Thread Eir Nym
All is good in BIND in system, except it depends on ports tree with various options. I have to do followed algorithm, to enable these options: 1) make and install base system 2) install needed dependencies from ports tree 3) rebuild and reinstall world This is more complex than: 1) make and

Re: Ports breakage since r205471

2010-04-05 Thread Garrett Cooper
ize that this is most suitable for current@ and I'm >> >> cross-posting, but I wanted to jot down all of the ports broken since >> >> the zlib version bump so that we can keep track of what's going on and >> >> what needs to be fixed. >> > >

Re: Ports breakage since r205471

2010-04-05 Thread Erwin Lansing
oss-posting, but I wanted to jot down all of the ports broken since > >> the zlib version bump so that we can keep track of what's going on and > >> what needs to be fixed. > > > > I have just started a new package build against todays HEAD on pointyhat > >

Re: Ports breakage since r205471

2010-04-05 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2010/04/05 01:50, Erwin Lansing wrote: > On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 03:06:15PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> Hi all, >> I realize that this is most suitable for current@ and I'm >> cross-posting, but I wanted to jot do

Re: Ports breakage since r205471

2010-04-05 Thread Erwin Lansing
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 03:06:15PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Hi all, > I realize that this is most suitable for current@ and I'm > cross-posting, but I wanted to jot down all of the ports broken since > the zlib version bump so that we can keep track of what's going

Re: Ports breakage since r205471

2010-04-04 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2010/04/04 18:58, Garrett Cooper wrote: [...] > As jsa@ so kindly pointed out, upgrading to r206057 temporarily I think you really want >= 206058 :( Cheers, - -- Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! Live f

Re: Ports breakage since r205471

2010-04-04 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Hi all, >    I realize that this is most suitable for current@ and I'm > cross-posting, but I wanted to jot down all of the ports broken since > the zlib version bump so that we can keep track of what's going on and &g

Ports breakage since r205471

2010-04-04 Thread Garrett Cooper
Hi all, I realize that this is most suitable for current@ and I'm cross-posting, but I wanted to jot down all of the ports broken since the zlib version bump so that we can keep track of what's going on and what needs to be fixed. The following 3rd party libraries and al

Re: Complete ports thaw

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Linimon
It probably bears repeating that the tree will be unstable for the next few days while a number of large commits hit the tree. These were held off during the release process to make life easier in case portmgr had to do tag-slips. Image processing libraries, xorg, kde, and gnome are scheduled to

Re: [PATCH] - ports/144792 (untar.c, Makefile) ports/archivers/untar

2010-03-19 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Adam PAPAI wrote: > Hi, > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/144792 > > To remove the compile warnings I've added the required header files. (and a > small fix for the Makefile NOMAN -> NO_MAN warning) >

[PATCH] - ports/144792 (untar.c, Makefile) ports/archivers/untar

2010-03-19 Thread Adam PAPAI
Hi, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/144792 To remove the compile warnings I've added the required header files. (and a small fix for the Makefile NOMAN -> NO_MAN warning) http://www.wooh.hu/freebsd/untar.c.patch.txt http://www.wooh.hu/freebsd/Makefile.patch.txt

Re: ports/net/mpd[45] broken with utmpx.h change

2010-02-16 Thread Alexander Motin
n. >>> You can try this patch. I don't know why Alexander did't commit it. >> I've committed it to mpd5 CVS repo. It will be present in next release soon. > > If "soon" is not "in the next couple of days" my vote would certainly be > th

Re: ports/net/mpd[45] broken with utmpx.h change

2010-02-15 Thread Doug Barton
tch. I don't know why Alexander did't commit it. > > I've committed it to mpd5 CVS repo. It will be present in next release soon. If "soon" is not "in the next couple of days" my vote would certainly be that you patch the port in place until the next mpd r

Re: ports/net/mpd[45] broken with utmpx.h change

2010-02-15 Thread Alexander Motin
Andrey V. Elsukov wrote: > On 16.02.2010 4:51, Bernd Walter wrote: >> I don't know how difficult it is to fix, but for many of us mpd is >> important to have network connection. > > You can try this patch. I don't know why Alexander did't commit it. I've committed it to mpd5 CVS repo. It will be

Re: ports/net/mpd[45] broken with utmpx.h change

2010-02-15 Thread Andrey V. Elsukov
On 16.02.2010 4:51, Bernd Walter wrote: I don't know how difficult it is to fix, but for many of us mpd is important to have network connection. You can try this patch. I don't know why Alexander did't commit it. -- WBR, Andrey V. Elsukov --- src/auth.c 2009-12-22 12:02:46.0 +0300 +++

ports/net/mpd[45] broken with utmpx.h change

2010-02-15 Thread Bernd Walter
===> Building for mpd-4.4.1_1 ===> src (all) Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/obj/usr/ports/net/mpd4/work/mpd-4.4.1/src cc -O -pipe -mcpu=arm9 -DNO_IDEA -mcpu=arm9 -DPATH_CONF_DIR=\"/usr/local/etc/mpd4\" -DSYSLOG_FACILITY=LOG_DAEMON -DMPD_VE

Re: HEADS UP: gone. All welcome . - ports/sysutils/screen and ports/sysutils/tmux not showing sessions

2010-02-13 Thread Vincent Poy
> > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Ed Schouten wrote: > > > > > > > > * Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > It appears that after utmpx.h gone into effect, ports/sysutils/screen > and > > > > ports/sysutils/tmux are not working correctly af

Re: /usr/ports/xll/XFree86-4

2003-12-03 Thread Jamie Bowden
is installed by > the imake port, believe it or not). I submitted a bugreport on it in > July, and hopefully it will be in Xfree86 4.4.0. Installing the > textproc/rman port may mask the bug until then, or you can drop this > file into ports/devel/imake-4/files and rebuild imake. Inst

Re: /usr/ports/xll/XFree86-4

2003-12-03 Thread Dan Nelson
n it in July, and hopefully it will be in Xfree86 4.4.0. Installing the textproc/rman port may mask the bug until then, or you can drop this file into ports/devel/imake-4/files and rebuild imake. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ../extras/rman/rman.c.orig Tue Jul 15 23:53:53 2003 +

Re: /usr/ports/xll/XFree86-4

2003-12-03 Thread Mike Hunter
On Dec 02, "Jamie Bowden" wrote: > I have a new machine that I've just installed 5.1-R on, and cvsup'd to -C. > I'm attempting to build X, and am getting a core dump from rman during the > process. I had this happen too. I did something really hack-ish to get around it (like delete that document

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-12-01 Thread Matthias Andree
Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (1) Combine / and /usr into a single file system by default, and add > /usr/local/etc/rc.d to the search order, with appropriate hacks to > handle old-style scripts. The devil will be in the bikeshed, but the > implementation is easy, except

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: > > (2) Reevaluate the order at routine points in the boot where new scripts > > might now be available (due to file system mounts or whatever). > > Essentially "insert the new cards into the deck, and shuffle". This > > requires rethinking

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Richard Coleman
der(8) early in the boot. The devil will be in the bikeshed, but the implementation is easy. (4) Continue to ignore the issue and let some ports install into /etc/rc.d and consider them unorthodox, incorrect, but something we can overlook. The devil isn't here, or at least, if i

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Richard Coleman
David O'Brien wrote: For 5.2-CURRENT, I think we should revisit this issue with one of the following conclusions winning out, and the rest being discarded as flame-bait: (1) Combine / and /usr into a single file system by default, and add /usr/local/etc/rc.d to the search order, with appropri

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 11:47:24PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: ..snip.. > For 5.2-CURRENT, I think we should revisit this issue with one of the > following conclusions winning out, and the rest being disc

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: For 5.2-RELEASE, I think we should ignore the whole issue and let the couple of ports that insert things in /etc/rc.d "just do it". We're not going to find any other solution in time t

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Maxim M. Kazachek
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: >Andreas Klemm wrote: > >>>I guess I don't see the problem. What is wrong with ports adding >>>startup scripts to /etc/rc.d? For certain ports, that is the only way >>>to get the startup dependencies right (like

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Richard Coleman
the typical BSD traditionalism get in the way of using RCNG for what it's designed. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating Linux-style integration of packages/ports. But this seems fairly harmless. Ports belong into /usr/local, not into /etc. There should be some hook that allows

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I have a better idea, then we perhaps need something like a : wrapper script that is part of the FreeBSD basic system under /etc/rc.d : that checks for the start script under $LOCALBASE/etc/rc.d : and starts it

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Matthias Andree
;s not let the typical BSD traditionalism get in the way of using > RCNG for what it's designed. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating > Linux-style integration of packages/ports. But this seems fairly > harmless. Ports belong into /usr/local, not into /etc. There should be some hook

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Michael Edenfield
it's not doable, but > we need to think about it carefully (and, unfortunately, it's not as easy > as simply adding /usr/local/etc/rc.d to the list..) Having wrapper Since this issue only comes up for a small number of ports, mostly those ports which can behave as back-end services for thi

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Oliver Eikemeier
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I can't recommend doing it this way, since some ports I know are writing startup scripts to /etc/rc.d :-/ That is very, very bad. I wish we had some kind of ports QA team :( Can I assign PR 56748 to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Richard Coleman
Melvyn Sopacua wrote: Isn't that *exactly why* ports should respect $PREFIX? At least than you know that startup scripts are in one place. Maybe all that is needed is a variable RCDIR?= etc/rc.d, for people who want to 'deviate' from this convention. I like that idea. That coul

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Oliver Eikemeier
Robert Watson wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Andreas Klemm wrote: I have a better idea, then we perhaps need something like a wrapper script that is part of the FreeBSD basic system under /etc/rc.d that checks for the start script under $LOCALBASE/etc/rc.d and starts it very early. Hmm. I talked wi

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
ed advantage that you can easily see what you've done using ls(1) - unlike /usr/sbin/sendmail being a shell script. In this specific case, postfix already supports the 'start' and 'stop' arguments, so there's no need for a wrapper script translating arguments. &g

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Richard Coleman
ust add postfix.sh to /etc/rc.d, rather than using tricks with symlinks and rc.conf variables. If you have a small number of ports added, it's not a big deal. But all these hacks get confusing when you have a lot of ports, each doing it's own special trick. The mailer.conf issue (fo

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Richard Coleman
Andreas Klemm wrote: I guess I don't see the problem. What is wrong with ports adding startup scripts to /etc/rc.d? For certain ports, that is the only way to get the startup dependencies right (like making sure openldap or postgresql starts before your mail system). This will become

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Melvyn Sopacua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Then you can just as easily nuke the entire mailer.conf principle and symlink > bin/postfix to etc/rc.d/050.postfix.sh. This is actually one of the two recommended ways of starting postfix (and the one I prefer). The main reason for mailer.conf to exi

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
t the person installing the port can read instructions given in pkg-message. I don't think any ports/package system is capable of correctly setting all *runtime* dependencies especially when it allows it's users to change configurations after installation without recording the ch

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 11:31:34AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > > I have a better idea, then we perhaps need something like a wrapper > > script that is part of the FreeBSD basic system under /etc/rc.d that > > checks for the start script under $LO

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Andreas Klemm
ier and > >avoids an ugly hack, > >which is good, but restrains functionality. I like the idea of account > >managed in an > >centralized LDAP directory very much. > > > >So, do you still think the scripts should not participate in rcorder(8)? > >It&#x

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Andreas Klemm wrote: > I have a better idea, then we perhaps need something like a wrapper > script that is part of the FreeBSD basic system under /etc/rc.d that > checks for the start script under $LOCALBASE/etc/rc.d and starts it very > early. Hmm. I talked with Gordon a

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Richard Coleman
Andreas Klemm wrote: What about simply putting a number in front of the script, I didn't check but am really certain that we start scripts something like this: cd $LOCALBASE/etc/rc.d for i in *.sh <--- here you get an alphabetically

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Richard Coleman
still think the scripts should not participate in rcorder(8)? It's easy to change the ports, but this is probably not the right fix. -Oliver I guess I don't see the problem. What is wrong with ports adding startup scripts to /etc/rc.d? For certain ports, that is the only w

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Andreas Klemm
I have a better idea, then we perhaps need something like a wrapper script that is part of the FreeBSD basic system under /etc/rc.d that checks for the start script under $LOCALBASE/etc/rc.d and starts it very early. Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Need a m

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:43:06PM +0100, Oliver Eikemeier wrote: > I don't care whether slapd or slurpd starts first, I even don't care when > slurpd > starts. I want to start ldapd early in the boot process to supports > services like > nss_ldap and mail. I did things differently e.g. in net/rs

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Oliver Eikemeier
Andreas Klemm wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 03:41:33AM +0100, Oliver Eikemeier wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:33:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I can't recommend doing it this way, since some ports

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 03:41:33AM +0100, Oliver Eikemeier wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:33:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > >>Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >>>I can't re

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Oliver Eikemeier
Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Do you actually review ports Makefiles? You _are_ kidding here, right? Yes, the ports team does read over the ports Makefile. Yes, the bento cluster attempts to find all the problems that can be found by automated processes

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Oliver Eikemeier
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:33:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I can't recommend doing it this way, since some ports I know are writing startup scripts to /etc/rc.d :-/ That is very, very bad. I wish we had some ki

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-29 Thread Oliver Eikemeier
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:25:08PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: All openldapXX-server ports do this for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/db/pkg grep /etc/rc.d */+CONTEN* [...] openldap-server-2.1.23/+CONTENTS:@unexec /etc/rc.d/slapd stop 2>&1 >/dev/null || tru

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > > Do you actually review ports Makefiles? You _are_ kidding here, right? Yes, the ports team does read over the ports Makefile. Yes, the bento cluster attempts to find all the problems that can be found by automated processes. Yes, my ow

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 11:38:53PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > Do you actually review ports Makefiles? > Not pre-review, but post-review, certainly. We also have an cluster > of ~25 machines and a number of ports commi

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 11:38:53PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:33:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > > That is very, very bad. I wish we had some kind of ports QA team :( > &g

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:33:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > That is very, very bad. I wish we had some kind of ports QA team :( > Well, er, a number of us do essentially nothing BUT ports QA. Do you actually review por

Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:25:08PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: > All openldapXX-server ports do this for example > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/db/pkg grep /etc/rc.d */+CONTEN* > [...] > openldap-server-2.1.23/+CONTENTS:@unexec /etc/rc.d/slapd stop 2>&1 >/dev/null || true

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:33:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I can't recommend doing it this way, since some ports I know > > are writing startup scripts to /etc/rc.d :-/ > > That is very, very bad. I wish w

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Richard Coleman
ay not exist on your system. I can't recommend doing it this way, since some ports I know are writing startup scripts to /etc/rc.d :-/ Cc'd to port maintainer to sanitize this All openldapXX-server ports do this for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/db/pkg grep /etc/rc.d */+CONTEN* [...] op

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:33:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I can't recommend doing it this way, since some ports I know > > are writing startup scripts to /etc/rc.d :-/ > > That is very, very bad. I wish w

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Andreas Klemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can't recommend doing it this way, since some ports I know > are writing startup scripts to /etc/rc.d :-/ That is very, very bad. I wish we had some kind of ports QA team :( DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav -

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Andreas Klemm
ved some time > ago, so depending on when you installed -CURRENT these scripts > may or may not exist on your system. I can't recommend doing it this way, since some ports I know are writing startup scripts to /etc/rc.d :-/ Cc'd to port maintainer to sanitize t

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-28 Thread James Raftery
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 10:53:29AM -0500, Michael L. Squires wrote: > On both systems I'm running postgreSQL7 from ports. In both cases the > pgctl (the startup script) is called twice, and obviously it fails the > second time. It is called both by /etc/rc.d/localdaemons and

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-28 Thread Christian Laursen
"Michael L. Squires" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On both systems I'm running postgreSQL7 from ports. In both cases the > pgctl (the startup script) is called twice, and obviously it fails the > second time. It is called both by /etc/rc.d/localdaemons and by &g

5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-28 Thread Michael L. Squires
uf_setmap 13134000, 1000; 0xc340 -> 13134000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 134b2000, 1000; 0xc341e000 -> 134b2000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 134d, 1000; 0xc341c000 -> 134d pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 1348e000, 1000; 0xc341a000 -> 1348e000 postgreSQL startup called twice On both systems I'm run

Re: 5.2-BETA lock up during ports extraction

2003-11-27 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Actually, the memory is 512MB PC1066 RDRAM (Rambus). The FSB is 533MHz. Tom Veldhouse > The subject says it all. Sorry, no DMESG output, as it has not yet been > installed. My relavent hardware is: > > Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz w/800MHz FSB & Hyperthreading > 512MB Rambus > > Dell Dimension 8250 >

5.2-BETA lock up during ports extraction

2003-11-27 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
The subject says it all. Sorry, no DMESG output, as it has not yet been installed. My relavent hardware is: Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz w/800MHz FSB & Hyperthreading 512MB Rambus Dell Dimension 8250 Tom Veldhouse ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://

mbrlen() vs. compatibility with -STABLE-compiled ports

2003-11-23 Thread David Wolfskill
Perhaps it's unrealistic to expect this to work, but on each of the machines where I run -CURRENT, I also run -STABLE (on other slices), but I generally only build ports under -STABLE, and /usr/local is common to both the -CURRENT and -STABLE environments. (I build -CURRENT with "COM

XFree86 ports / Font problem

2003-11-23 Thread Jan Stocker
Hi... after updating my 5.1-current machine: a) new kernel b) new world c) all packages (including XFree86) d) newest gnome-packages (using marcusmerge) i got these msgs in XFree86.0.log Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0 Warning: f

Re: cdparanoia in the ports fails.

2003-11-12 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Sweetleaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to get cdparanoia from the port to compile but am running > into the following: > > ===> Building for cdparanoia-3.9.8_5 > cd interface && gmake all > gmake[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/por

cdparanoia in the ports fails.

2003-11-12 Thread Sweetleaf
I am trying to get cdparanoia from the port to compile but am running into the following: ===> Building for cdparanoia-3.9.8_5 cd interface && gmake all gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/audio/cdparanoia/work/cdparanoia-III-alpha9.8/interface' gmake libcdda_interface.a CFL

RE: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-26 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > think '-pthread' is a good thing. It's nice to have a portable way to say > that I want to compile POSIX code. What good is a standard if there's no > standard way to get to it? The Standard way to do it is: c99 foo.c -l pthread -GAWollman

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-25 Thread David Xu
David Schwartz wrote: David Xu wrote: I definitly agree with Dan, -pthread is too ugly, it really really is nothing to do with compiler and should be removed. Really? What if invoking the threading library required the compiler to compile code differently? Surely it might require that on

RE: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-25 Thread David Schwartz
David Xu wrote: > I definitly agree with Dan, -pthread is too ugly, it really really is > nothing to do with compiler and should be removed. Really? What if invoking the threading library required the compiler to compile code differently? Surely it might require that on some platforms, s

Re: Initial list of ports that fail due to -pthread

2003-09-25 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mp3blaster-3.1.3 I have a patch, will talk to maintainer. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listin

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