Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
> jul...@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) writes: > > > we already use the gs register for SMP now.. > > what about the fs register? > > I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve > > this (%fs points to user space or something) > > You can't extend the address spac

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
yeah I remembered how it all worked after I wrote that.. You'd think they'd eventually get the idea of letting the kernel have it's own 'cr3' and some TLBs eh? listenning intel? On 8 Jul 1999, Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: > > jul...@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) writes: > > > we already use t

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
jul...@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) writes: > we already use the gs register for SMP now.. > what about the fs register? > I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve > this (%fs points to user space or something) You can't extend the address space that way, segm

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patryk Zadarnowski) writes: > > You can't extend the address space that way, segments are all parts of > > the single 4GB address space described by the page mapping. > True, but you can reserve a part of the 4GB address space (say 128MB of it) > for partitioning into tiny (s

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:46:38 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer said: julian> With your scheme the clock needs to be always running at elevated speed. julian> Possibly you might have a startup routine that turns on the elevated julian> frequency, (basically does an 'aquire_timer0()' ) I would say t

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Dillon) writes: > pair-down the fields in both structures. For example, the vnode structure > contains a lot of temporary clustering fields that could be removed > entirely if clustering operations are done at the time of the actual I/O > rather then b

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Elischer) writes: > > > we already use the gs register for SMP now.. > > what about the fs register? > > I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve > > this (%fs points to user space or something) > > You can't extend the address spac

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
>> >Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup. I know at least 1 netbsd >> >person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). >> > >> >Has anyone seen problems like these? Any ideas? >> >>Hmmm...I've been using them in some machines here and haven't seen any >> pro

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
yeah I remembered how it all worked after I wrote that.. You'd think they'd eventually get the idea of letting the kernel have it's own 'cr3' and some TLBs eh? listenning intel? On 8 Jul 1999, Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Elischer) writes: > > > we already use t

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Elischer) writes: > we already use the gs register for SMP now.. > what about the fs register? > I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve > this (%fs points to user space or something) You can't extend the address space that way, segm

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:46:38 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: julian> With your scheme the clock needs to be always running at elevated speed. julian> Possibly you might have a startup routine that turns on the elevated julian> frequency, (basically does an 'aquire_timer0(

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-07 Thread Don Lewis
On Jul 4, 5:35pm, "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: } Subject: Re: Pictures from USENIX } beards are great...women love them, getting fluffed is much } better than getting scratchedkids love them. brush the beard } whenever you brush your hair. dont hae to deal with a buzzing razor, } very

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
>> >Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup. I know at least 1 netbsd >> >person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). >> > >> >Has anyone seen problems like these? Any ideas? >> >>Hmmm...I've been using them in some machines here and haven't seen any >> pr

Re: Berkeley DB question

1999-07-07 Thread Tony Finch
User Joe wrote: > >Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there >locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database >files? The web pages for Berkeley DB 2 claim that it does (note version 2, not 1.85 as shipped with FreeBSD). http://www.sleepycat

Re: Someone want to add support for computer radio scaners?

1999-07-07 Thread Jim Bryant
In reply: > Hello All, > > I was just looking at http://www.winradio.com/ and was thinking > that it would be a nice addition to FreeBSD. I don't own one of the > cards, otherwise I would have started to see what I could do. But if > anyone out there has one/has access to one, it would be inter

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Mark J. Taylor
Put it in the ".login" or /etc/csh.login (etc.) file. They'll see it every time they log in. -Mark Taylor NetMAX Developer mtay...@cybernet.com http://www.netmax.com/ Wes Peters wrote: > > Bill Fumerola wrote: > > > > On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > > > Thanks! But still, I

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Tony Finch
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > >Don't use err() indiscriminately after a malloc() failure; malloc() >doesn't set errno. When I looked at malloc(3) I decided that it relied on sbrk(2) to set errno if it returned 0. Is this wrong? i.e. can it return 0 without a failed syscall? Tony. -- f.a.n.finch

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-07 Thread Don Lewis
On Jul 4, 5:35pm, "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: } Subject: Re: Pictures from USENIX } beards are great...women love them, getting fluffed is much } better than getting scratchedkids love them. brush the beard } whenever you brush your hair. dont hae to deal with a buzzing razor, } ver

Re: Berkeley DB question

1999-07-07 Thread Tony Finch
User Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there >locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database files? The web pages for Berkeley DB 2 claim that it does (note version 2, not 1.85 as shipped with FreeBSD). ht

Re: Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
The hard part is going to be the applications to co-operate. good luck. it's be nice. especially if it worked with the syscons cut-n-paste. julian On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > Hello! > > I am new to FreeBSD and Unix, but not new to programming and TCP/IP. > > I have noticed

Re: Someone want to add support for computer radio scaners?

1999-07-07 Thread Jim Bryant
In reply: > Hello All, > > I was just looking at http://www.winradio.com/ and was thinking > that it would be a nice addition to FreeBSD. I don't own one of the > cards, otherwise I would have started to see what I could do. But if > anyone out there has one/has access to one, it would be inte

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Mark J. Taylor
Put it in the ".login" or /etc/csh.login (etc.) file. They'll see it every time they log in. -Mark Taylor NetMAX Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netmax.com/ Wes Peters wrote: > > Bill Fumerola wrote: > > > > On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > > > Thanks! But still, I d

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Tony Finch
Dag-Erling Smorgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Don't use err() indiscriminately after a malloc() failure; malloc() >doesn't set errno. When I looked at malloc(3) I decided that it relied on sbrk(2) to set errno if it returned 0. Is this wrong? i.e. can it return 0 without a failed syscall? To

Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-07 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
Hello! I am new to FreeBSD and Unix, but not new to programming and TCP/IP. I have noticed that there is no good clipboard system in FreeBSD. X has only a rudimentary clipboard, and outside X there is no clipboard that would be shared between programs... All this while Windows has a very interest

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Patryk Zadarnowski wrote: > > > Why not put the kernel in a different address space? IIRC there's no > > absolute requirement for the kernel and userland to be in the same > > address space, and that way we would have 4 GB for each. > > Wouldn't that make system calls that

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon wrote: > Now, I also believe that when UVM maps those pages, it makes them > copy-on-write so I/O can be initiated on the data without having to > stall anyone attempting to make further modifications to the VM object. >

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Assar Westerlund
Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > > And besides, I really don't think this is a grep function but actually > > is useful for programs that don't have any strategy for handling out > > of memory errors and might as well die (with a descriptive error > > message, of course). Let's call it emalloc and l

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Jay Kuri
> >Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup. I know at least 1 netbsd > >person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). > > > >Has anyone seen problems like these? Any ideas? > >Hmmm...I've been using them in some machines here and haven't seen any > problems.

Re: Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
The hard part is going to be the applications to co-operate. good luck. it's be nice. especially if it worked with the syscons cut-n-paste. julian On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > Hello! > > I am new to FreeBSD and Unix, but not new to programming and TCP/IP. > > I have noticed

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > > Ow, I thought it was in the mailing list archive, turned out not. > I will attach the paper below. Sorry for a long mail. > > > --- v --- cut here --- v --- > Unlike 16550, MPU401 does not generate an interrupt on TX-ready. > So we have to choose o

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
> we already use the gs register for SMP now.. > what about the fs register? > I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve > this (%fs points to user space or something) ... as I've suggested a few days ago, and was told to shut up with a (rather irrelevant) referen

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
> Why not put the kernel in a different address space? IIRC there's no > absolute requirement for the kernel and userland to be in the same > address space, and that way we would have 4 GB for each. Wouldn't that make system calls that need to share data between kernel and user spaces hopelessl

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Jul 7, 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > Now there's an idea! Someone wanna code up wmrtfm real quick? It should > start an rxvt (if available) or xterm running rtfm on strings that are > dropped onto or pasted into the dock icon. Wait until someone writes grtfm! GNOME support, panel applet,

Clipboard Daemon - thinking of writing one :)

1999-07-07 Thread Mikhail Ramendik
Hello! I am new to FreeBSD and Unix, but not new to programming and TCP/IP. I have noticed that there is no good clipboard system in FreeBSD. X has only a rudimentary clipboard, and outside X there is no clipboard that would be shared between programs... All this while Windows has a very interes

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:18:57 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer said: >> Sorry, finetimer(9) is the new timer implemented in my latest midi driver. >> You can read the short paper describing the feature and principle in: >> >> Message-Id: <199907060959.saa05...@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> julian> how

implementing a fs on a raw partition

1999-07-07 Thread Marc Tardif
As I reading on filesystem algorithms and principles [bach 86 and mckusick 96], I am tempted to try my hand on a free partition. From my understanding, I should be using the partition as a character device for raw i/o in order to avoid the current filesystem overhead (/dev/rwd0s3). From that point,

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT), > Julian Elischer said: > > julian> uh... > julian> [phaser.whistle.com] 536 man 9 finetimer > julian> No entry for finetimer in section 9 of the manual > > > Sorry, finetimer(9) is the new timer implement

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer said: julian> uh... julian> [phaser.whistle.com] 536 man 9 finetimer julian> No entry for finetimer in section 9 of the manual Sorry, finetimer(9) is the new timer implemented in my latest midi driver. You can read the short paper descr

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Assar Westerlund
Dag-Erling Smorgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > And besides, I really don't think this is a grep function but actually > > is useful for programs that don't have any strategy for handling out > > of memory errors and might as well die (with a descriptive error > > message, of course). Let's c

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Jay Kuri
> >Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup. I know at least 1 netbsd > >person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). > > > >Has anyone seen problems like these? Any ideas? > >Hmmm...I've been using them in some machines here and haven't seen any > problems.

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
uh... [phaser.whistle.com] 536 man 9 finetimer No entry for finetimer in section 9 of the manual On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > Another idea has come to my mind... > > > pca(4) currently uses acquire_timer0(), which changes the timer > frequency directly, breaking finetimer(9).

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
we already use the gs register for SMP now.. what about the fs register? I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve this (%fs points to user space or something) julian On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Why not put the kernel in a different address spa

Re: The busspace modernization initiative.

1999-07-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message <19990707230648.d771...@overcee.netplex.com.au> Peter Wemm writes: : At the very least it must use the real resource lists, not a second copy. : That probably means that nexus.c itself would have to export these functions. Yes. Or that bus_space_*map would live in nexus.c. : At the mo

Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
Another idea has come to my mind... pca(4) currently uses acquire_timer0(), which changes the timer frequency directly, breaking finetimer(9). I am considering to move acquire_timer0()s in pca(4) to finetimer(9), so that pca(4) comes to work again. Furthermore, we can get rid of acquire_timer0()

Re: ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Jasper O'Malley
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Justin C. Walker wrote: > Out of curiosity, what does 'arp -a' show after the 'arp -s' > command? Same thing it shows before the "arp -s" attempt, as does "netstat -nr" :( For the record, regular "arp -s" commands without the "pub" parameter (i.e. static ARP cache entries, n

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Why not put the kernel in a different address space? IIRC there's no :absolute requirement for the kernel and userland to be in the same :address space, and that way we would have 4 GB for each. : :Greg No, the syscall overhead is way too high if we have to mess with MMU context. This w

Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 8 July 1999 at 9:26:09 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > David Greenman wrote: >> Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB >> KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network >> buffers and other map regions. > > Matthew Dillon

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Jul 7, 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > Now there's an idea! Someone wanna code up wmrtfm real quick? It should > start an rxvt (if available) or xterm running rtfm on strings that are > dropped onto or pasted into the dock icon. Wait until someone writes grtfm! GNOME support, panel applet

implementing a fs on a raw partition

1999-07-07 Thread Marc Tardif
As I reading on filesystem algorithms and principles [bach 86 and mckusick 96], I am tempted to try my hand on a free partition. From my understanding, I should be using the partition as a character device for raw i/o in order to avoid the current filesystem overhead (/dev/rwd0s3). >From that poin

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:36:19 +0800 : Peter Wemm wrote: : : > Out of curiosity, how does it handle the problem of small 512 byte : > directories? Does it consume a whole page or does it do something smarter? : > Or does the ubc work apply to read/write only and the filesystem itself : > continue

sysctl question

1999-07-07 Thread Brian F. Feldman
How do I set up a sysctl so that I may pass in a two pointers: one to pass in some data another to receive some data ? Is it possible? Otherwise, I think I should just do something with passing in an arbitrary data buffer (pointer to, rather) which contains the data necessary on ent

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:06:48 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: julian> uh... julian> [phaser.whistle.com] 536 man 9 finetimer julian> No entry for finetimer in section 9 of the manual Sorry, finetimer(9) is the new timer implemented in my latest midi driver. You can read t

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:The way this is done in the still-in-development branch of NetBSD's :unified buffer cache is to basically elimiate the old buffer cache :interface for vnode read/write completely. When you want to do that :sort of I/O to a vnode, you simply map a window of the object into :KVA space (via ubc_allo

Someone want to add support for computer radio scaners?

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Del
Hello All, I was just looking at http://www.winradio.com/ and was thinking that it would be a nice addition to FreeBSD. I don't own one of the cards, otherwise I would have started to see what I could do. But if anyone out there has one/has access to one, it would be interesting to add into Fr

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
uh... [phaser.whistle.com] 536 man 9 finetimer No entry for finetimer in section 9 of the manual On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > Another idea has come to my mind... > > > pca(4) currently uses acquire_timer0(), which changes the timer > frequency directly, breaking finetimer(9)

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
we already use the gs register for SMP now.. what about the fs register? I vaguely remember that the different segments could be used to achieve this (%fs points to user space or something) julian On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Why not put the kernel in a different address sp

Re: The busspace modernization initiative.

1999-07-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Wemm writes: : At the very least it must use the real resource lists, not a second copy. : That probably means that nexus.c itself would have to export these functions. Yes. Or that bus_space_*map would live in nexus.c. : At the moment, the probe/attach rout

Re: ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Justin C. Walker
> From: Jasper O'Malley > Date: 1999-07-07 17:49:24 -0700 > To: hack...@freebsd.org > Subject: ARP breakage > Delivered-to: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > I haven't gotten much of a response in -stable, so I'll ask here. Any one > know what happened to proxy ARP in recen

Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
Another idea has come to my mind... pca(4) currently uses acquire_timer0(), which changes the timer frequency directly, breaking finetimer(9). I am considering to move acquire_timer0()s in pca(4) to finetimer(9), so that pca(4) comes to work again. Furthermore, we can get rid of acquire_timer0()

Re: ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Jasper O'Malley
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Justin C. Walker wrote: > Out of curiosity, what does 'arp -a' show after the 'arp -s' > command? Same thing it shows before the "arp -s" attempt, as does "netstat -nr" :( For the record, regular "arp -s" commands without the "pub" parameter (i.e. static ARP cache entries,

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Oliver Banta
> I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for > some time. I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management > adapters. In most of my machines, they don't work. > > Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very > clearly some problems

ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Jasper O'Malley
I haven't gotten much of a response in -stable, so I'll ask here. Any one know what happened to proxy ARP in recent incarnations of 3.2-STABLE? See problem report bin/12448, but in a nutshell: # ifconfig ed1 ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.54.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.5

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:36:19 +0800 Peter Wemm wrote: > Out of curiosity, how does it handle the problem of small 512 byte > directories? Does it consume a whole page or does it do something smarter? > Or does the ubc work apply to read/write only and the filesystem itself > continues to us

Re: Sony Z505S [was: USB floppy & booting]

1999-07-07 Thread Andrew Heybey
Ollivier Robert writes: > Do we support booting from USB floppies ? I plan to buy one of the new VAIOs > (probably the Z505S with Celeron/333 + 64 MB + 12.1" screen) and it seems to > come with an USB floppy (as opposed to the probably-IDE of former models). > > They've apparently ditched both t

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Jason Thorpe wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:03:16 -0700 (PDT) > Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth i t. > > To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to > > pair-down the fields in both stru

sysctl question

1999-07-07 Thread Brian F. Feldman
How do I set up a sysctl so that I may pass in a two pointers: one to pass in some data another to receive some data ? Is it possible? Otherwise, I think I should just do something with passing in an arbitrary data buffer (pointer to, rather) which contains the data necessary on en

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon wrote: > If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth it. > To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to > pair-down the fields in both structures. For example, the vnode > s

Someone want to add support for computer radio scaners?

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Del
Hello All, I was just looking at http://www.winradio.com/ and was thinking that it would be a nice addition to FreeBSD. I don't own one of the cards, otherwise I would have started to see what I could do. But if anyone out there has one/has access to one, it would be interesting to add into Fr

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Jason Thorpe wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) > Julian Elischer wrote: > > > or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures > > I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. > > A uvm_object is not a standalon

Re: ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Justin C. Walker
> From: Jasper O'Malley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 1999-07-07 17:49:24 -0700 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: ARP breakage > Delivered-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > I haven't gotten much of a response in -stable, so I'll ask here. Any one > know what happened to proxy ARP

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Julian Elischer wrote: > or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures > I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. A uvm_object is not a standalone thing in UVM. Every thing that's mappable in UVM has a

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures :I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. : :julian If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth it. To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
: We've been here before, a couple of times. This started to become an issue :when the limits were removed and has gotten worse as the vnode and fsnode :structs have grown over time. We're running into some limits on how much :space we can give to the kernel since there are a number of folks whic

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :>limit ought to work for a 4G machine > :> > :>Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code > :>is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. > : > : Well, I could possibly live with

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Oliver Banta
> I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for > some time. I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management > adapters. In most of my machines, they don't work. > > Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very > clearly some problem

ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Jasper O'Malley
I haven't gotten much of a response in -stable, so I'll ask here. Any one know what happened to proxy ARP in recent incarnations of 3.2-STABLE? See problem report bin/12448, but in a nutshell: # ifconfig ed1 ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.54.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.

Re: Berkeley DB question

1999-07-07 Thread Wes Peters
User Joe wrote: > > Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there > locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database > files? No. I've heard that Cygnus newlib has a thread-safe version of db or dbm, but haven't checked it out myself. It may be

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Wes Peters
Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > Thanks! But still, I don't think rtfm is very appropriate... Can we look > > for something better, more obvious? Or perhaps it would be in the motd > > like /stand/sysinstall is people would need to be aware of this. >

Re: Sony Z505S [was: USB floppy & booting]

1999-07-07 Thread Andrew Heybey
Ollivier Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do we support booting from USB floppies ? I plan to buy one of the new VAIOs > (probably the Z505S with Celeron/333 + 64 MB + 12.1" screen) and it seems to > come with an USB floppy (as opposed to the probably-IDE of former models). > > They've appar

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
>:>limit ought to work for a 4G machine >:> >:>Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code >:>is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. >: >: Well, I could possibly live with 256MB, but the vnode/fsnode consumption >:seems to

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:06:26AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:56:17 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > I'm unfamiliar with the ins and outs of the login_cap system. Could > > someone who is versed in it please take a look at this PR (text included) > > and let me know whether

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:It appears we're rapidly approaching the point where 32-bits isn't :enough. We could increase KVA - but that cuts into process VM space :(and a large machine is likely to have large processes). True, though what we are talking about here is scaling issue with main memory. We should be a

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth it. > To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to > pair-down the fields in both structures. For exam

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Jason Thorpe wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) > Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures > > I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. > > A uvm_objec

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Jeremy
David Greenman wrote: > Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB >KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network >buffers and other map regions. Matthew Dillon wrote: >What would be an acceptable upper limit? 256MB? 128MB? The

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:>limit ought to work for a 4G machine :> :>Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code :>is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. : : Well, I could possibly live with 256MB, but the vnode/fsnode consumption :seems to be gett

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures > I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. A uvm_object is not a standalone thing in UVM. Every thing that's m

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures :I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. : :julian If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth it. To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
>: Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB >:KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network >:buffers and other map regions. >: >:-DG >: >:David Greenman >:Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org >:

Re: The busspace modernization initiative.

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Warner Losh wrote: > In message Do ug Rabson writes: > : This seems to bypass the nexus completely which isn't right. It wouldn't > : detect conflicts between bus_space_alloc and the new-bus resource apis > : since it has its own instances of struct rman. > > This is true. However, that's j

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
: We've been here before, a couple of times. This started to become an issue :when the limits were removed and has gotten worse as the vnode and fsnode :structs have grown over time. We're running into some limits on how much :space we can give to the kernel since there are a number of folks whi

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
> >Good Afternoon, > > I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for >some time. I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management >adapters. In most of my machines, they don't work. > >Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very >clear

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :>limit ought to work for a 4G machine > :> > :>Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code > :>is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. > : > : Well, I could possibly live with

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
: : Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB :KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network :buffers and other map regions. : :-DG : :David Greenman :Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org :Creator

Terminal CTRL-C processing...

1999-07-07 Thread Brian J. McGovern
This is a dumb question, but I've been trying to hack on it all day, and I'm getting frustrated, so I want throw this in the air for comment... I'm putting the finishing touches on a second revision of the Cyclades Z driver. Its pretty much there, except for when you hit CTRL-C with a shell I

Re: Berkeley DB question

1999-07-07 Thread Wes Peters
User Joe wrote: > > Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there > locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database files? No. I've heard that Cygnus newlib has a thread-safe version of db or dbm, but haven't checked it out myself. It may bear

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Wes Peters
Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > > > Thanks! But still, I don't think rtfm is very appropriate... Can we look > > for something better, more obvious? Or perhaps it would be in the motd > > like /stand/sysinstall is people would need to be aware of this.

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
>Since we have increased the hard page table allocation for the kernel to >1G (?) we should be able to safely increase VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX. I was >thinking of increasing it to 512MB. This increase only effects >large-memory systems. It keeps them from locking up :-) > >Anyone h

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
>:>limit ought to work for a 4G machine >:> >:>Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code >:>is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. >: >: Well, I could possibly live with 256MB, but the vnode/fsnode consumption >:seems to

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:06:26AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:56:17 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > I'm unfamiliar with the ins and outs of the login_cap system. Could > > someone who is versed in it please take a look at this PR (text included) > > and let me know whethe

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