On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:04 PM, asom...@gmail.com wrote:
> I don't doubt that it would be useful to have an emergency network
> stack. But have you ever looked into debugging over firewire?
Absolutely. In fact, before the advent of remote network debugging, FW was
totally the debugging method of
On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Julian Elischer wrote:
> My first candidates are:
Those sound useful. Just out of curiosity, however, since we're on the topic
of kernel dumps: Has anyone even looked into the notion of an emergency
fall-back network stack to enable remote kernel panic (or sy
One might also ask the begged question, namely whether or not it makes
any sense to invest time and effort into a transition to just another
implementation of cvs vs investing it in moving to something else, like
SVN. No, I'm really not trying to re-ignite the "should we move to
p4/svn/arch/..
Wow, deja-vu!
- Jordan
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
Hello
I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have
trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line).
Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to "
I have no problem admitting that I've traced through the innards of
_fseeko a few times now and am no closer to finding out exactly where
the problem is, though I have a suspicion it has to do with when the
file pointer's buffer is allocated and initially populated. In any
case, here's a parti
That was uncalled for.
> Dag-Erling Smorgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > -hackers is not the appropriate forum for code review. The patch is
> > incorrect and should be backed out.
>
> Never mind, I did it myself.
>
> DES
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> Right now, policy differs between branches. releng_4's openssh gives
> a commented alternative in the config, whilst head's gives a commented
> default.
Thanks, these changes look good (and better than what I was
proposing). Since they're both somewhat different, I'll commit them
in tandem but
> BTW, what I'm suggesting here is the equivilent of the "no_fake_prompts"
> setting in pam_opie.so found in -CURRENT. Basically, if the flag is set,
Again, by all means, generate some diffs and we'll look 'em over. I'm
far less interest in debating this in abstract terms and at least
Joshua p
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services
>
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>
> > I'm going to commit the following in 48 hours unless someone can
> > convince me that it's a good idea for FreeBSD to
t;
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 11:39:01AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > I'm going to commit the following in 48 hours unless someone can
> > convince me that it's a good idea for FreeBSD to be the odd-OS out
> > with respect to this behavior:
>
> Don't
s easier than I thought, but I don't want just having this be fixed
contingent on that.
- Jordan
> Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > I'm going to commit the following in 48 hours unless someone can
> > convince me that it's a good idea for FreeBSD to be the
I'm going to commit the following in 48 hours unless someone can
convince me that it's a good idea for FreeBSD to be the odd-OS out
with respect to this behavior:
Index: sshd_config
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_co
> That fix relies on the extensive PAM updates in -CURRENT however; in
> -STABLE it can probably be similarly replicated via appropriate tweaking
> of sshd (?).
Why not fix it in stable by the very simple tweaking of the
ChallengeResponseAuthentication to no in the sshd config file we ship
Trust
n, Apr 22, 2002 at 09:41:20PM -0400, Anthony Schneider wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 08:04:43PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jordan Hubbard typed:
> > > > My question: Who's "wrong" here, FreeBSD or Mac O
We at Apple are noticing a strange problem with newer versions of
ssh (which has been upgraded to OpenSSH_3.1p1) and FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE's
sshd. This problem did not occur with our older ssh, but it also does not
occur with the newer version and *any* other OS other than FreeBSD, e.g.
if you ssh to
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-13/0063.html
Matt or Theo indeed!
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> What for? You haven't caught the Megahertz bug too, have you? 8)
I'm not supposed to focus on Megahertz, I work for Apple, but various
benchmarking folks also like to be able to print stats like this out
on their comparison charts and it seems a lot easier than grepping
/var/run/dmesg.boot. :)
hw.busfrequency = 133326902
hw.cpufrequency = 66700
hw.cachelinesize = 32
hw.l1icachesize = 32768
hw.l1dcachesize = 32768
hw.l2settings = -2147483648
hw.l2cachesize = 262144
Assuming that some or all of this information can be derived on x86 /
alpha / sparc, how useful do folks think it would
This is ridiculous. Why the hell you felt compelled to fill my
mailbox with *nine* copies of this message is beyond me, and spamming
in the name of project evangelism is hardly getting things off on the
right foot! You've certainly left me without any desire to contribute
to or even endorse this
There is no way, currently. It's done by the crunchgen scripts as
part of making a release but there's no way to do it for the purposes
of repopulating /stand.
>
> Tried -questions, no response. Verified issue on 4.5 PRERELEASE.
>
> Going to
>/usr/src/release/sysinstall
> and doing
>
I'm trying to get the license issue clarified, then it can go in
/usr/src/tools/regression.
- Jordan
> Jordan Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Guy Harris of NetApp sent me a whole mess-o-changes to it and when I
> > went to forward them to you, I f
> I gave out fsx source code at the recent CIFS (SMB) plugfest. If I make
> the 2002 Connectathon I'll give it out there too. I don't test it on
> Windows so those defines may be in need of repair. Please send me any
> patches or cool additions.
Guy Harris of NetApp sent me a whole mess-o-chan
> 1. Is there a way to hide a user from other users? Fx programs like w, who, u
As Terry has already pointed out, jails are probably your best bet.
> ps: 1. I hope that in the future FreeBSD will remain a servers only OS.
As Terry also said, volunteers work on things they like to work on,
but t
I can't seem to get a crash dump out of it, but the panic I'm seeing is:
panic: allocdirect_check: old 30246736 ! = new 30246736 || ibn 4 >= 12
For some reason the dump also dies, resettting the ata0 bus over and over
but not writing out to swap.
- Jordan
> :
> :> I should point out that FSX c
> Thanks! I'm slowly whacking the bugs. I just fixed another one...
That's awesome... I'd hoped this program might help you find a few
things, but I never expected you to find so many bugs in NFS
so... quickly! I certainly didn't expect you to tickle any local
filesystem problems either.
> To be clear, what exactly are you doing?
>
> It sounds like you're exporting something from freebsd, mounting it on OSX
> and running this tool on OSX against the filesystem exported from freebsd ?
>
> If so, What mount options? NFSv2 or v3?
That is correct. As to the NFS options used, I ho
> I should point out that FSX can be used against any filesystem, and
> that there are reports locally (at Apple) that it's great for killing
> FreeBSD machines. I wasn't able to reproduce this when I tried, but I
> may not have let it run long enough.
Oh, it blows freebsd.apple.com right out of
> The only thing I get is a math exception because "closeprob" is zero
> since no -c option was given.
>
> Can you provide some sample parameters please ?
Hmmm, how strange, now that I look at the code it's obvious that a
divide by zero will occur with a zero closeprob and the docs state the
def
It came up in a meeting today at Apple just how fragile the BSD NFS
implementation was before significant work was put in to stabilizing it,
and in that discussion came up a little test tool written originally by
Avie Tevanian and subsequently improved by one of the folks here.
This tool basicall
> I know that only security fixes are supposed to go in RELENG_4, but
You mean RELENG_4_4 I assume. RELENG_4 gets a lot more than just
security fixes.
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JFYI, Brett Halle (the director of CoreOS engineering for Apple) and I
will be speaking at the NLUUG's Autumn Conference in Ede, The Netherlands
on November 8th and then travelling on to BSDCon Europe in Brighton, UK
immediately thereafter (the 9th) and staying in the UK until November 14th.
If a
> We certainly support the right for companies to protect their intellectual
> property in whatever way they see fit, even if the FreeBSD community does
> not.
Oh my. I can see that we've gone somewhat polemic here.
As someone who's been around since the very beginning, I think I can
fairly sta
Erm, this would make this the first report of "interference effects"
I've ever heard, certainly. Doesn't make it untrue, just subject to a
bit more initial skepticism. Is this truly the only variable that's
changing? Are we sure that the drives in question aren't simply
broken in some way and m
> Tell me if I am wrong but from the floppy, the files kern.flp &
> mfsroot.flp are compressed and then uncompressed into memory.
>
> If so, that means that the FreeBSD box is running this programs from the
> RAM and not from the floppy, right ?
Correct. They're running with the root device set
them back up to ftp-master again. I believe he already
did this for the set going out from WRS.
- Jordan
> * Bruce A. Mah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010921 09:49] wrote:
> > If memory serves me right, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > > > I seem to recall these programs were owned by
Sounds fine to me!
From: "Bruce A. Mah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No tools on 4.4-RELEASE ISO?
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:48:41 -0700
> If memory serves me right, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > > I seem to recall these programs were owned by WCCDROM (then BSDi,
> I seem to recall these programs were owned by WCCDROM (then BSDi, then
Naw, I'd long since prunted tools/ to just the stuff that was freely
redistributable. Murray simply forgot to put it on the ISOs he
created. :)
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> To: "Alexander Langer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Robert Withrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Withrow"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jordan Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><
libdialog(3) is extremely limited, as we've been saying for literally
years now, and what I wish is that people would stop telling these
lists "what it needs" and simply Do It. We've certainly never lacked
for ideas on how to improve it, just the bodies to actually do so.
The problem is that deal
Considering it, yes. But only considering.
- Jordan
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:42:23PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > We're still waiting for 4.0's "support footprint" to widen
> > a bit more before subjecting people to it by default. Hopefully
> >
This is only one of many different areas in which sysinstall is
insufficiently dynamic. Patches, as always, are cheerfully
accepted. :)
- Jordan
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:48:11PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > No, 3.3.6. There is no such thing as 3.3.7 (at least not acc
No, 3.3.6. There is no such thing as 3.3.7 (at least not according to
www.xfree86.org) and even if there were, enough version-number
specifics are encoded into sysinstall that I would had to have been
told at least a week or two ago if any such version number bump were
contemplated. :)
- Jordan
> Does anyone know what version of XFree86 that is going to be released
> with FreeBSD 4.4 this weekend??
3.3.6. We're still waiting for 4.0's "support footprint" to widen
a bit more before subjecting people to it by default. Hopefully
by 4.5.
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> status on merging of features to -stable, the release process, etc. At
> one point, Jordan was spitting out a FreeBSD news letter once in a while.
> Dunno if we'll ever see it again, but I thought that was a good idea, and
> was part of the impetus for exploring a monthly electronic report.
>
Nobody's formally asked the release engineers yet. I'd want to see a
request sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the usual way, with diffs attached,
before I'd decide either way.
- Jordan
From: Martin Blapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clock speedup on 4.X FreeBSD SMP and serverworks chipset
Date:
What login class is squid running under? And what does your /etc/login.conf
look like?
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From: "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PATCH] reduce text(code) size and improve clarity of pkg_add
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:44:12 -0700
> I'd like to apply this patch to pkg_add which reduces the amount of code
> the compiler generates, and improves the clarity of the code.
As the
This is great, but it really should be filed as a PR. The send-pr
command will do the trick. Thanks!
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From: "Stephane E. Potvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FreeBSD for ARM processor
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 12:43:27 +
> I tought that some might be interested by this:
>
> Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>
Seems a reasonable thing to do - have you found where in the linux
compatability code one might set it?
From: Jim Pirzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: math library difference between linux emulation and native freebsd (and
native linux)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:03:14 -0700
> So the solution
From: Sheldon Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vfs.vmiodirenable undocumented
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:21:24 +0200
> I'm very concerned with the fact that this style of response has become
> commonly accepted within the FreeBSD community.
I would have to disagree that this is an area of
From: Garance A Drosihn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for sysinstall / disklabel
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:28:26 -0400
> However, there is some kind of column-counting mistake there,
> such that if you are creating more than one columns-worth of
> partitions, then turning on the so
From: Garance A Drosihn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:06:54 -0400
> I do wish I could find someone who was interested in making changes
> to it, though.
Why can't we just nominate you and be done with it? :)
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From: Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:02:06 -0700
> David: please install 4.3 --R E L E A S E--, the last
> official --R E L E A S E--.
I T I S T H E R E. Man, Terry, do you really get off on being so
publically misinforme
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:54:59 EDT
> These mechanisms existed before without BSDi, so there was no "impact".
> Actually, ftp downloads got a LOT slower after BSDi took over, so i consider
> it a negative impact in that area.
T
From: Dan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:22:10 -0400
> The real solution is to define a little language for such maintenance
> tasks, and using that as the basis for installation packaging;
> something along the lines of Inferno's mus
From: Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 03:42:47 + (GMT)
> Will you commit the changes?
Well, I'd sorta like to *see* them before writing the coding
equivalent of a blank check, but given reasonably functional
implementations, s
From: Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 13:29:23 -0700
> The base system is not registered into the packages
> system, because of sysinstall.
As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about. The base system
isn't registered in
This is all patently ridiculous, especially given that we know you
have a previously declared bias in being able to sell some sort of
installer for money and would clearly wish to kill any "competition"
for it, no matter how benign it would be to otherwise include it as an
option (which is all Nik
From: Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 11:32:53 -0700
> Except that he who controls the trademark is he who gets
> to bless the distributions with its use -- or to deny its
> use.
Only if they chose to do so. I would like to think
From: "Julian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re. The Foundation [was Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral]
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 15:53:40 +0200
> As I recall FreeBSD Inc (ie jkh & dg, a team of 2) once held the
> trademark, then it moved to Walnut, then BSDi, then Wind River.
From: Richard Hodges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 10:30:06 -0700 (PDT)
> Could I just ask exactly what the FreeBSD Foundation _is_?
Well, I can't speak for it, naturally, since I'm in no way connected
with it. I can say that it *appears* to
Erm, as much I appreciate all these ideas for charging money for
various things, I really doubt that anyone in the FreeBSD project,
whether they're on the core team or on the Foundation board of
directors, really want to get into the "trademark for money" game or
really anything else that involves
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From: Shannon Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:23:41 -0400
> I don't think this is a good idea. The foundation can give a certain CD
> vendor official status without limiting the rest. This is how things
>
From: Sergey Babkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 19:59:12 -0400
> If the FreeBSD Foundation is an existing entity now, maybe we
> can just change the license for the CD images to "not for resale"
> unless the distributor signs an agreement wi
From: Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FLUFF] subr_figlet.c, some assembly required.
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 18:45:41 -0700
> http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/subr_figlet.diff
Cute, but why isn't it written in forth?! :-)
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From: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 14:28:18 -0700
> What's likely to happen if we let it is that a number of entities will
> publish verbatim copies of the "officially produced" ISO images, and
> do so at production cost + some p
From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 04:41:47 -0700
> >Times have clearly changed, however, and Walnut Creek CDROM is long
> >and sadly gone.
>
> Jordan, I agree with most of what you say except for this.
You disagree with m
From: Don Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 11:28:57 -0600
> Given the lack of response from either WR or BSDCentral to my complaint
> about the FreeBSD Desktop I just received, I think it is critical that
> we establish an independent CD ch
Well, those utilities are gone so we probably need to simply update
the documentation and move on. :)
- jordan
From: David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 10:30:42 -0700
> Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>
> > o 4 "relea
From: Chris Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:34:08 -0400 (EDT)
> Daemon News is still very interested in becoming the official FreeBSD CD
> vendor. I think a qualification of being an official vendor is donating a
> portion back to the
From: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:00:43 -0700
> Something that wasn't clear to me from Jordan's message to -announce
> is whether he will continue to be the FreeBSD Release Engineer.
Yeesh, you'd think I'd announced my funer
From: Wes Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:55:25 -0600
> Or not, if every other distributor that actually cares to distribute
> FreeBSD has dried up and blown away because WRS has been handing out
> exclusive access to the "official"
From: "Andrey Simonenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Status of dialog(1) and libdialog.
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:32:59 +0400
> I don't mean this at all, I just wanted to know if somebody
> improve/patch/develop libdialog, or if somebody is going
> to remove and add another compatible library
I suppose that depends on how you define "future." Do we want to
be using libdialog in the year 2010? No, I would certainly hope
something better will have arrived by then. Do we have anything
better now or in the forseeable next 12 months? No also.
So, if there's anything you or anyone else
acho than a gay little
> pastel colored window or something dumb called
> 'Me'...fucking marketing geniouses.
>
> >:\
>
> and, i have nothing against gay people either...as long as
> they're not playing loud GAY music that i can hear.
> hehehhehehh
From: "Jeremiah Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Anyone see todays Wall Street Journal article: Microsoft Using Free
Software (or something to that effect)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:03:46 +1000
> That's the BSD license for ya.
>
> There needs to be a license that says something to the
From: Matthew Hagerty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone see todays Wall Street Journal article: Microsoft Using Free
Software (or something to that effect)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:43:24 -0400
> As I understand the BSD license anyone can use it, however, they must say
> that they are us
Sort of the other way around. We were the "several FreeBSD
volunteers" referenced in the article. Lee's my press contact at the
WSJ and he's done a number of pieces favorable to us in the past.
Again, I'd like to thank the various folks on -hackers who responded
(you know who you are) and were a
From: "Jeroen Massar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:16:20 +0200
> It all sounds really odd to me but alas a cat does stupid things when it
> gets cornered...
> I sincerely hope that you BSD guys&gals stay far
I just thought I'd summarize since this generated so much response.
It's apparently just not possible to really tell for sure without
looking at the source code, and it was not possible to get ahold of
any of the University licensee's or Microsoft developers in time to go
into that level of detai
From: "Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Article: Network performance by OS
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:31:41 -0400 (EDT)
> So every FreeBSD server requires an expensive admin to tune it?
> That Win2K solution is looking good now. :-)
That says a lot about your selection criteria
From: Joseph Mallett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:50:00 -0400 (EDT)
> Well, looking through headers, a lot of stuff says "taken from the BSD
> file...", namely winsock.h and winsock2.h, at the very least it a
..
- Jordan
From: Ollivier Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:30:13 +0200
> According to Jordan Hubbard:
> > Do you have a pointer to what you read? I really need HARD evidence
> > here, no
.org ]
> > [ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ]
> > [ FreeBSD, NetBSD, & xMach User; (Obj)C(++) Coder ] [ http://xMach.org ]
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> >
> > > I've had several marketing types
I read awhile back was MS licensed from BSDi their TCP/IP stack for use
> in W2K.
>
> Steve B.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jordan Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:57 PM
I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as
to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user
utilities, and though it's always been "common knowledge" in the
community that they were, when I set about to "prove" it I found it to
be less easy than I'd
I think that since we use CVS around here, we should simply import the
first semi-working model and let the other committers dive in and
commit their refinements as we go along. Up to now, this whole NetBSD
rc thing has looked more like one of those baseball scenes were 5
people all yell "I got i
From: Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Patented algorithm in FreeBSD
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:45:46 -0400
> We just need to hide all the code from the lawyers.
Why? They wouldn't understand it anyway. What we really need to do
is stop HIRING them. :)
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This whole thread is kind of silly. Don't people realize the sheer
number of "patent infringments" there are in FreeBSD (or, indeed,
Linux?) Sure, you could add a flag to turn each and every instance of
such patent infringment off but the end-result would be something that
didn't even resemble a
From: Dima Dorfman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mount_mfs-like program for md
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:39:47 -0700
> Hi folks,
>
> Would anybody have a tantrum if a program with a mount_mfs-like
> interface to create an md disk and put a UFS filesystem on it was
I think it's a fine idea! It w
Guys, guys. The NetBSD /etc/rc system is good. We should stop
arguing about it and just focus on figuring out who's going to
integrate it or the whole conversation concerns a moot point
anyway. :)
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Erm, folks? Can anyone please tell me what this has to do with
freebsd-hackers any longer? It's been quite a long thread
already - have a heart please and take it to -chat. :(
Thanks,
- Jordan
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From: "Charles C. Figueiredo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: technical comparison
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:10:54 -0400 (EDT)
> I work in an environment consisting of 300+ systems, all FreeBSD
> and Solaris, along with lots of EMC and F5 stuff. Our engineering division
> has been working on a
Looks good! Excellent! Go for it! :)
- Jordan
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> I used that "sysinstall" thing Jordan wrote to upgrade
> from a 4.2 to a 4.3 system.
>
> Is that what I'm doing wrong? ;^).
Probably! Anybody would be the first to tell you that sysinstall's
"upgrade" feature only gets you there unassisted maybe 3 times out of
5. The contents of /etc are si
ssh works just fine for me in 4.3. You must be doing something
wrong.
- Jordan
From: Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SSH Must Die
Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 04:24:29 -0700
> This whole ssh B.S. is very annoying.
>
> After an upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3 using a CDROM boot plus
> upgrade men
I guess we could, but somebody would have to do it. :)
- Jordan
From: "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: subscribe
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:34:57 -0700
> On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:01:13PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > Argh! I'm sorry
Argh! I'm sorry folks, I almost always remember to delete the cc line
when I send somebody that particular form letter so as not to spam the
list myself, but this time I forgot to do that before typing the send
command. Bad Jordan, no cookie!
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[ Sorry to send you a form letter, but I just happen to have one which
covers this case and it saves me some typing :) -jkh ]
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