Re: editors/zim

2011-09-02 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Chris Whitehouse wrote on 01.09.2011 02:30: [skipping the details since original problem was solved] Now it builds and installs and is working fine, _and_ my original problem has gone away. thanks very much for your help. I'll drop the author a line to say it's been fixed. Chris Sorry for d

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Oliver Fromme
(Not replying to any particular post in this thread.) I think the current ports system in FreeBSD is not bad. Sure, it could be better (but this would probably require more manpower, which is a problem in a volunteer project), but it also could be a *lot* worse. I know of several people who are t

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/02/2011 02:24, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Finally, I recommend to install ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves and > run it regularly after updates portmaster -s does the same thing. FYI, Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go B

Re: suggestion for pkgdb from ports-mgmt/portupgrade: add more explanation

2011-09-02 Thread Michel Talon
Robert Huff said: >Michel TALON writes: > >> Finally >> the file UPDATING should be forcefully removed from the system > > While I support all reasonable efforts to get automation to >always Do The Right Thing(tm), my reaction to this is: absolutely >not. > Until you can show there

Re: suggestion for pkgdb from ports-mgmt/portupgrade: add more explanation

2011-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/02/2011 02:39, Michel Talon wrote: > Your answer is very interesting and allows me to go further in the > reasoning. Indeed the UPDATING file is here to solve edge cases. My > point is that there shouldn't be any edge cases, if there are some it is > because something somewhere has been ill d

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:07:40 +0200 > Message-id: <201109020107.p8217efj089...@fire.js.berklix.net> I wrote: > Microsoft must grin at all us BSD, Linux, maybe Solaris & presumably > even now http://www.minix3.org free source enthu

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 Sep 2011 10:50, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > FYI: > http://www.minix3.org -> > http://wiki.minix3.org/en/UsersGuide/InstallingBinaryPackages -> > http://pkgin.net/ > " > pkgin is known to work and have been tested under the following platforms : >* NetBSD 4.0 >* NetBSD 5.{0,1} >* N

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > > http://pkgin.net/ [...] > > pkgin is known to work and have been tested under the following platforms [...] > So, what do you actually mean by this? Probably just this: What about trying to port pkgin for FreeBSD, so that pkgin can also be used on FreeBSD ? If this solves the binary pkg-

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 09/02/2011 12:04, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! http://pkgin.net/ [...] pkgin is known to work and have been tested under the following platforms [...] So, what do you actually mean by this? Probably just this: What about trying to port pkgin for FreeBSD, so that pkgin can also be used on Fre

configure options

2011-09-02 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I'm having problems building www/firefox on ia64. I was advised to: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683879 --- Comment #3 from Boris Zbarsky (:bz) 2011-09-01 10:36:27 PDT --- Do things work if you do use --disable-ipc? -- How should I specify this

Re: configure options

2011-09-02 Thread Glen Barber
On 9/2/11 7:01 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm having problems building www/firefox on ia64. > I was advised to: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683879 > > --- Comment #3 from Boris Zbarsky (:bz) 2011-09-01 > 10:36:27 PDT --- > Do things work if you do use

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> > No /pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/ports-mgmt/pkgin . > > I'm not familiar with pkgin, but nice to see OS co-operation. > > So, what do you actually mean by this? Re-read: ] Microsoft must grin at all us BSD, Linux, ] ... reinventing similar old ports shims for same old 3rd party

Re: cvs commit: ports/www/apache22 Makefile distinfo

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 September 2011 07:18, Ade Lovett wrote: > ade         2011-09-02 06:18:02 UTC > >  FreeBSD ports repository > >  Modified files: >    www/apache22         Makefile distinfo >  Log: >  Emergency upgrade to 2.2.20 - CVE-2011-3192.  Any complaints, talk to me. The vuxml originally marked all ve

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, Doug Barton wrote: On 09/02/2011 02:24, Oliver Fromme wrote: Finally, I recommend to install ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves and run it regularly after updates portmaster -s does the same thing. Well, sorta. How it chooses what to offer to remove is different. portmaster -s o

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Oliver Fromme
Doug Barton wrote: > On 09/02/2011 02:24, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Finally, I recommend to install ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves and > > run it regularly after updates > > portmaster -s does the same thing. No. pkg_cutleaves finds ports that I have installed at some point in the past and then f

Re: tinderbox: how to drop unneded Jail and Build

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 29 August 2011 18:14, Ade Lovett wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:10:30 +0100 > Chris Rees wrote: > >> http://www.marcuscom.com:8080/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/tinderweb/dbsrc/ >> >> Watch out, there be dragons :( > > But they're happy dragons ;) > > As an aside, if there's likely to be 'official' tran

Re: tinderbox: how to drop unneded Jail and Build

2011-09-02 Thread Glen Barber
On 9/2/11 10:12 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > Any docs people happy to attempt to migrate the build system for the > Tinderbox README to FreeBSD-doc format? I'm pretty sure marcus would > rather keep it where it is; it's an upstream thing rather than an OS > thing. > I'll be happy to help. -- Glen Ba

Re: suggestion for pkgdb from ports-mgmt/portupgrade: add more explanation

2011-09-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 11:39:14AM +0200, Michel Talon wrote: > My point is that there shouldn't be any edge cases In a perfect world: yes. > I certainly don't have any precise idea of the things which should be > changed so that edge cases disappear Well, then, we're right back where we started

Re: suggestion for pkgdb from ports-mgmt/portupgrade: add more explanation

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 Sep 2011 20:53, "Mark Linimon" wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 11:39:14AM +0200, Michel Talon wrote: > > My point is that there shouldn't be any edge cases > > In a perfect world: yes. > > > I certainly don't have any precise idea of the things which should be > > changed so that edge case

Re: configure options

2011-09-02 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:01:29 +0100 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm having problems building www/firefox on ia64. > I was advised to: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683879 > > --- Comment #3 from Boris Zbarsky (:bz) > 2011-09-01 10:36:27 PDT --- Do things work if yo

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Oliver Fromme (from Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:24:16 +0200 (CEST)): The other extreme are people who run a cron job every night that updates /usr/ports (*) and runs "400.status-pkg" (from /etc/periodic/weekly), possibly even followed by an automated update (**). Of course this will sometimes

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Oliver Fromme
Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Oliver Fromme (from Fri, 2 Sep 2011 > 11:24:16 +0200 (CEST)): > > > The other extreme are people who run a cron job every night > > that updates /usr/ports (*) and runs "400.status-pkg" (from > > /etc/periodic/weekly), possibly even followed by an aut

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/02/2011 06:25, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 09/02/2011 02:24, Oliver Fromme wrote: >>> Finally, I recommend to install ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves and >>> run it regularly after updates >> >> portmaster -s does the same thing. > > Well, sorta. How it ch

Re: editors/zim

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Whitehouse
On 02/09/2011 09:18, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: Chris Whitehouse wrote on 01.09.2011 02:30: [skipping the details since original problem was solved] did you see that I had to add a line for MD5 to distinfo to make it work on my 8.1-R system? Though the last change was to remove MD5... No

Re: suggestion for pkgdb from ports-mgmt/portupgrade: add more explanation

2011-09-02 Thread Lars Eighner
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Suggestion: pkgdb is too cryptic even with -v, it needs more explanation what it is up to & particularly what decisions it asks from user Of course you never see messages from pkgdb unless something has gone wrong. Some things go wrong in common

Re: editors/zim

2011-09-02 Thread Glen Barber
Hi Chris, On 9/2/11 5:40 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > did you see that I had to add a line for MD5 to distinfo to make it work > on my 8.1-R system? Though the last change was to remove MD5... > It sounds to me parts of your ports tree may be out of sync. MD5 distfile validation was removed fr

Fwd: cvs commit: ports/www/pyblosxom Makefile

2011-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
FYI. Maintainer, there is a new version available, are you interested in continuing to maintain this port, or would you like to release it? I forgot to include the expiration in this commit, but I subsequently set it to expire at the end of this month. Thanks, Doug Original Message

Re: Ports system quality

2011-09-02 Thread perryh
Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Probably just this: What about trying to port pkgin for FreeBSD, > so that pkgin can also be used on FreeBSD ? Volunteers? ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubs

Re: suggestion for pkgdb from ports-mgmt/portupgrade: add more explanation

2011-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/02/2011 14:58, Lars Eighner wrote: > The main thing here, of course, is that ports uses "dependency" in the > exact > opposite of its normal English sense (just as twitter uses "following" in > the exact opposite of its normal English sense). > > In normal Engish 'X is a dependency of Y' mea

Re: editors/zim

2011-09-02 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Chris Whitehouse wrote on 03.09.2011 01:40: On 02/09/2011 09:18, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: Chris Whitehouse wrote on 01.09.2011 02:30: [skipping the details since original problem was solved] did you see that I had to add a line for MD5 to distinfo to make it work on my 8.1-R system? Though

Compiling for gtk3

2011-09-02 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
I've been trying to compile pan2 from the master git repository, and am having problems getting a build that will actually run using the --with-gtk3 configure switch. The compilation goes OK, but execution fails with... [conrads@serene ~/build/pan2]$ pan/gui/pan Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols de