a SED need

2005-12-27 Thread Jack Stone
I have some HTML files with hundreds of URLs that I need to modify using a search/replace string. I assume that SED(1) is the right tool to use, but every syntax I've tried has not worked. Here is what I'm trying to do: Change full URLs to relative paths, in other words, chop off the "http://ww

Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs"

2006-03-14 Thread Jack Stone
From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:21:28 -0500 (EST) --- Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:15:57

Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs"

2006-03-14 Thread Jack Stone
From: Gardner Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:05:21 -0500 (EST) --- Jack Stone wr

Sendmail and Jails

2006-03-25 Thread Jack Stone
I have been setting up jails on various production servers on FBSD-6.0 & 4.11. I was wondering how/where to configure & avoid the port conficts for sendmail as follows: - main host - all sendmail services in & out (or at least out) - jail - just outgoing services I gather I will need to conf

Re: Sendmail and Jails

2006-03-25 Thread Jack Stone
From: Anish Mistry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sendmail and Jails Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:32:01 -0500 On Saturday 25 March 2006 18:42, Jack Stone wrote: > I have been setting up jails on various produc

Re: Sendmail and Jails

2006-03-27 Thread Jack Stone
From: "David Robillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" CC: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sendmail and Jails Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:44:29 -0500 -- Message: 23 Date: Sat, 25

Re: backup system rsync <-> dump

2006-05-03 Thread Jack Stone
From: Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dick hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: backup system rsync <-> dump Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 11:15:55 -0500 (CDT) With the right settings of --backup --backup-dir you can easily create a week (or two or three or whateve

Perl script help

2006-01-25 Thread Jack Stone
I'm using an old (2001) canned perl script to manage questions to my tech site. It is of big help since it can answer common questions from templates and a real time saver. Alas, that time saves is now being diminished by junk mail about cheap drugs and I'm trying to figure out how to filter t

Re: Perl script help

2006-01-25 Thread Jack Stone
From: Greg Barniskis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl script help Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:29:39 -0600 Jack Stone wrote: I'm using an old (2001) canned perl script to manage questions to my tech site.

RE: Connecting to serial port

2006-02-12 Thread Jack Stone
From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Douville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: RE: Connecting to serial port Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:51:12 -0800 That happens, you can try a BIOS update, and also make sure your motherboard CMOS settings specify the port for serial0, and match

Re: Using dd to Make a Clone of a Drive

2006-02-15 Thread Jack Stone
I have used dump/restore and dd as well. For a block size, I chose 102400 which was the fastest -- but still slow compared to dump/restore. Dump/restore is not limited to making a whole image, blanks and all like dd. Once upon a time, I used this as the best: dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=10240

RE: portsnap failing

2006-02-23 Thread Jack Stone
I'm trying to update my ports tree on a 6.0-RELEASE/amd64 machine. I get this error: Updating from Wed Feb 15 08:30:17 GMT 2006 to Thu Feb 23 10:20:03 GMT 2006. Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 3 metadata files... /usr/sbin/portsnap: cannot open

Re: milter-greylist question

2006-03-03 Thread Jack Stone
From: Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: range <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: milter-greylist question Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 09:57:59 -0600 In the last episode (Mar 02), range said: > I have a milter-greylist(with sendmail) use question, It's my > greylist.conf

Re: Upgrade 5.4 to 6.0

2006-03-05 Thread Jack Stone
From: Tofik Suleymanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade 5.4 to 6.0 Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:13:27 + hal wrote: Is there any reason why I should not upgrade a 5.4 system to 6.0 as opposed to doing a clean install? hal I

RE: proftpd: No address associated with hostname

2005-09-28 Thread Jack Stone
From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'FreeBSD-Questions Questions'" Subject: proftpd: No address associated with hostname Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:00:30 GMT Hello, I have been running proftpd for years (FreeBSD 4.11). Today I upgraded to 1.3.0rc2. And now I get this in my log: "getaddrinfo 'a

small script help

2012-08-23 Thread Jack Stone
Running freebsd-7.0 I use a small script in a jail to check if Apache is running and if not, restart it. #!/bin/sh #if ps -ax | grep -v grep | grep -i httpd #then #echo "Apache is alive.." #else #echo "Apache is dead, but will be launched." #/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 start Howe

Upgrading perl

2012-08-27 Thread Jack Stone
uname -a FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.0-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p9 #2: Sun Jan 18 19:59:27 CST 2009 Running perl5.10 (yeah, old!) This is a production server. Been playing catchup on ports including perl as UPDATING recommends: portupgrade -o lang/perl5.12 -f perl-5.10.\* That has worke

Re: Upgrading perl

2012-08-29 Thread Jack Stone
On 8/29/2012 8:27 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Jack Stone writes: uname -a FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.0-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p9 #2: Sun Jan 18 19:59:27 CST 2009 Running perl5.10 (yeah, old!) This is a production server. Been playing catchup on ports including perl as UPDATING

Re: Upgrading perl

2012-08-29 Thread Jack Stone
On 8/29/2012 1:32 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Jack Stone writes: Actually, on other servers with the same upgrading needs, perl-5.12 installed without any issue. My intention is to upgrade perl in increments to get well past EOL. You're somewhat on your own, then; I can't test any o

Re: Upgrading perl

2012-08-29 Thread Jack Stone
On 8/29/2012 1:32 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Jack Stone writes: Actually, on other servers with the same upgrading needs, perl-5.12 installed without any issue. My intention is to upgrade perl in increments to get well past EOL. You're somewhat on your own, then; I can't test any o

Problem upgrading fbsd-7.4 --> 8.3

2012-09-15 Thread Jack Stone
Am trying to upgrade fbsd-7.4 to 8.3. I get all the way through the usual procedure using sources, including installworld, when I attempt to run mergemaster as the final step, I get this fatal error. I've searched the list and google, but don't find the right answer. What am I possibly doing w

Simple redirect

2012-09-18 Thread Jack Stone
FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10 apache22 Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are plenty here who know how to do this. On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into a new directory, but after all this time the

Re: Simple redirect

2012-09-18 Thread Jack Stone
On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote: FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10 apache22 Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are plenty here who know how to do this. On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into a

Re: Simple redirect

2012-09-18 Thread Jack Stone
On 9/18/2012 1:35 PM, Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:15 -0500 Jack Stone wrote: On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote: FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10 apache22 Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are

Rewrite redirects

2012-09-28 Thread Jack Stone
I thought I had this figured out but discovered I have a BIG flaw with my .htaccess redirects After days of searching and experimenting, I still can't get this to do what I intended. I have moved all of the content on a web site from the web root to a different directory. Now I need toredirect

Re: Rewrite redirects

2012-09-28 Thread Jack Stone
On 9/28/2012 3:08 PM, Jack Stone wrote: I thought I had this figured out but discovered I have a BIG flaw with my .htaccess redirects After days of searching and experimenting, I still can't get this to do what I intended. I have moved all of the content on a web site from the web root

RE: SATA to PCI cards

2007-08-22 Thread Jack Stone
From: "Bahman M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SATA to PCI cards Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:39:01 +0330 Hi all, I'm running FreeBSD 6.2. $ uname -a FreeBSD attila 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/

Re: SATA to PCI cards

2007-08-23 Thread Jack Stone
From: "Bahman M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA to PCI cards Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:51:52 +0330 > Yes, I've had good luck with the Promise brand PCI-SATA cards on 6.x. We are > using this method to evolve older machines to SATA.

fbsd & sendmail as MTA

2007-09-12 Thread Jack Stone
We're switching our MTA from postfix to sendmail on a purely mail relay server and all is running just fine except for one minor essential. Is there any way to have sendmail perform the same service as the recipient_bcc.map and sender_bcc.map on postfix? Those using postfix know this is used t

Re: fbsd & sendmail as MTA

2007-09-13 Thread Jack Stone
From: "Peter Boosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jonathan McKeown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fbsd & sendmail as MTA Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:00:59 +0200 (CEST) > On Thursday 13 September 2007 03:4

Sendmail out to port 2525

2007-09-19 Thread Jack Stone
Am using FBSD-6.2p7 Sendmail-8.13.8 I spent several days trying different configs to relay mail from my sendmail relay received from another relay using postfix -- to a Windows server only listening on port 2525. So far no luck and all attempts to relay to the Windows server shows "service no

RE: Sendmail out to port 2525

2007-09-19 Thread Jack Stone
> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:34:54 +0300> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Sendmail out to > port 2525> > On 2007-09-19 12:53, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > > Am using

RE: Sendmail out to port 2525

2007-09-19 Thread Jack Stone
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:11:32 +0300> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Sendmail out to > port 2525> > On 2007-09-19 14:06, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > I can barely re

Setting date variable

2006-09-02 Thread Jack Stone
Without setting multiple (crude) variables, I haven't come up with a good & simple way to set the date variable in my "csh" shell script to grab a file when the month rolls over. Like this: The file I want to copy into another script is in this format that I cannot change: "2006-September.t

Re: Setting date variable

2006-09-02 Thread Jack Stone
From: Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting date variable Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:28:39 +0100 Jack Stone wrote: > I could use the "date" command to do: 2006-09.txt or maybe 200

Recompiling base sendmail with another DB

2006-09-24 Thread Jack Stone
I've wanted to test the use of some of snertsoft's milters, but they require a Berkley DB-4.1+ I believe instead of the 1.85 used by the base system's sendmail. Somewhere I read about recompiling sendmail, which then would allow me to comile with a different DB choice. The steps are below. W

RE: Recompiling base sendmail with another DB

2006-09-24 Thread Jack Stone
From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Recompiling base sendmail with another DB Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:59:54 -0500 I've wanted to test the use of some of snertsoft's milters, but they require a Berkley DB-4.1+ I believe i

Shell question

2006-10-25 Thread Jack Stone
Folks: I have managed to piece together a shell script that is able to retrieve the domains from the spams of the day and summarize those in a special file that can then be added to the sendmail's rejects in the access.db. But, first I have to eyeball the list and remove any obvious good-guy do

Re: Shell question

2006-10-26 Thread Jack Stone
From: Warren Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shell question Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:35:55 -0600 (MDT) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Jack Stone wrote: Folks: I have managed to piece together a shell script tha

Re: Shell question

2006-10-26 Thread Jack Stone
From: Jordan Gordeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shell question Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:05:50 +0300 Jack Stone wrote: From: Warren Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Another FBSD utility/script question

2006-11-15 Thread Jack Stone
Here I come with another easy one for most on the list -- except for me. I have 12,000 plus lines that have an empty line in between each real line, like so: this is a line of info 1 (empty) this is a line of info 2 this is a line of info 3 etc, etc To eliminate each "empty" line in between

RE: rc.d scripts

2007-03-25 Thread Jack Stone
From: Tom Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: rc.d scripts Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:15:29 -0400 Does anyone know how to make a script in /etc/rc.d run last? For instance I want dhclient to be the last script in /etc/rc.d/ to run. Any help is much appreciated. -Tom Th

RE: Perl Script in Apache

2007-05-07 Thread Jack Stone
From: White Hat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Perl Script in Apache Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 12:17:39 -0700 (PDT) I tried to get an answer to this on the Apache forum, but unfortunately, I was not successful. Running Apache on a FreeBSD-6.2 machine, I am attempting to se

RE: Milter Sender Uninstall

2007-11-21 Thread Jack Stone
> > > Hi All,> i have milter sender installed on FreeBSD with sendmail, but i > > > want to> uninstall it, i tried to search the internet about this but i > > > did not> file any thing> i tried to disable configuration from .mc file > > > and then make & make> install under /etc/mail but it gav

Search & Replace Issue

2006-12-23 Thread Jack Stone
Appreciate a tip on how to search & replace hundreds of *.htm files: From this: http://www.domain.com/tales/wouf.html To this: http://www.domain.htm/ portions of the lines. Large thanks in advance for help. Happy Holidays! Jack __

Re: Search & Replace Issue

2006-12-24 Thread Jack Stone
From: Parv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search & Replace Issue Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:56:32 -0500 in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Josh Paetzel

RE: OT: sed usage (was Re: Search & Replace Issue)

2006-12-25 Thread Jack Stone
From: Parv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: DeepTech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT: sed usage (was Re: Search & Replace Issue) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 00:04:47 -0500 in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote DeepTech thusly... > > sed -e 's/http\:\/\/www\.domain\.htm\///g' *

Re: kern.hz="100" stops high-pitched whine

2007-07-02 Thread Jack Stone
From: Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cpghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: questions Subject: Re: kern.hz="100" stops high-pitched whine Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 09:46:19 -0400 cpghost wrote: Are there any reasons NOT changing kern.hz from the default 1000 back to 100? With my typical mix of desk

Re: restart network without shutdown

2007-08-08 Thread Jack Stone
From: Eric Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Narek Gharibyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Xihong Yin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: restart network without shutdown Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:42:11 -0500 Install screen from ports, run it from within screen. You'll still g

Cannot delete stubborn files

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
Hello: I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. I can even move them to another directory, but still cannot delete. Can chmod too, but still same resistance; I originally figured they occupied a bad spot on the HD, but now not sure about that. Please, any suggestions about wh

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:17:09 -0400 (EDT) --- Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello: > I have 2 files that resists all e

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote: I have 2 files that resists all efforts to

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: "Ricardo Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:39:05 -0300 This occurred to me once, I simply booted the system in single user mode and removed the file.

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: Lowell Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 12:53:03 -0400 "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>From: Chr

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400 "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Chris Hill &

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500 From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: fre

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:37:37 -0700 On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Jack Stone wrote: From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: "Nikolas Britton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:37:52 -0500 On 6/4/06, Jack Stone <[EMAI

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: Duane Whitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:58:11 -0300 On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:57:38PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote: > >From: &q

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:57:52 -0700 > Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:42:16 -0500 > From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:06:25 -0400 On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:57:27PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote: > >From:

Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

2006-06-04 Thread Jack Stone
From: Chris Whitehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:59:48 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can move the entire directory package, i.e., local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm but, not just