On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 03:18:51AM -0500, b. f. wrote:
> On 12/27/09, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 02:11:55AM -0500, b. f. wrote:
>
> > A BEL-per-key drove me beyond the limits back in '99; that isn't
> > the answer, but to key a truncated bell, a click, at something well
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 07:54:02PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:07:34 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
> > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline wrote:
> [..]
> > > > Wow; the stuff I've never heard abou
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:07:34 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline wrote:
[..]
> > > Wow; the stuff I've never heard about:-) --I just tried
> > spkrtest
> > > and have no /d
On 12/27/09, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 02:11:55AM -0500, b. f. wrote:
> A BEL-per-key drove me beyond the limits back in '99; that isn't
> the answer, but to key a truncated bell, a click, at something well
> below middle-C: yes, this kind of thing is what I'm
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 02:11:55AM -0500, b. f. wrote:
> >Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers? I miss
> > the confirmation that vi/vim puts out.
>
> Outside of X, our kbdcontrol(1) offers pitch and duration (but not
> volume) control for the console bell via the
>Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers? I miss
> the confirmation that vi/vim puts out.
Outside of X, our kbdcontrol(1) offers pitch and duration (but not
volume) control for the console bell via the -b flag. The volume is
often dependent upon the hardware and/or
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 03:07:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
> > > > Gary Kline wrote:
> > > > >>On Fri, 2
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:18:48PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:01:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> > //* OFFLIST
>
> Sorry, hit the wrong button - I hope it doesn't bother anyone.
> If it does, don't read it.
Ja vohl; I caught it. 'Most everybody know my leanings; jus
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:07:34 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> Thanks! I just listened to the opening few notes of Star Trek [!]
> But very faint and I don't know if the dinky BEL is a chip or a
> real speaker.
You can determine it easily: If you plug something into
the sound card i
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
> > > Gary Kline wrote:
> > > >>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline
> wrote:
> > > >>> at fi
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:42:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> Oh, yeah. In the late 80's when I joined my Nth startup and worked
> with several fellow hackers in a large room, my Sun was the only
> one with the click turned on. It drove my fellow programmers nuts,
> but that wa
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:14:46PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the
> > kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
> > create tiny, brief clic
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 09:36:14AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
>
> > The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so. If getting the
> > keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
> > that easy, it would have been done after 15 years. Eve
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
> > Gary Kline wrote:
> > >>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > >>>at first I'm lookings for a "cots" (commericial, off-the-shelf)
> > >>>
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:01:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> //* OFFLIST
Sorry, hit the wrong button - I hope it doesn't bother anyone.
If it does, don't read it.
Outdoor concert will start today at 3 p.m., but if it rains
a 3 p.m., we'll already begin at 1 p.m. :-)
--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, German
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the
> kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
> create tiny, brief clicks, preferably low, thunky sounds like ye
> ancient IBM
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:43:56 +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > Nothing tactile, and because neither Linux nor BSD has an audio
> > "click", not even that. Sun does have a command line
>
> It should. The X window system provides
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:50:48 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:53:43PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > There are a few who actually *do* have text-only pages.
> >
> > And fewer do have alt= and longdesc=
At 2009-12-26 09:36:14+, Matthew Seaman writes:
> Uh, it was done years ago. Look at the xset(1) manual page -- there are
> options there to turn on key-click. They've been there since before the
> millennium as I recall. Most people find key-click intensely annoying (even
> more so if it's
Gary Kline wrote:
The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so. If getting the
keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
that easy, it would have been done after 15 years. Even Linux
lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too.
Uh, it was done ye
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 02:43:56AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > Nothing tactile, and because neither Linux nor BSD has an audio
> > "click", not even that. Sun does have a command line
>
> It should. The X window system prov
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> >>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> >>> at first I'm lookings for a "cots" (commericial, off-the-shelf)
> >>> solution. The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.
> >>> I
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> Nothing tactile, and because neither Linux nor BSD has an audio
> "click", not even that. Sun does have a command line
It should. The X window system provides a way to get keyclicks with
xset(1). The command 'xset c 100' w
Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
at first I'm lookings for a "cots" (commericial, off-the-shelf)
solution. The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.
I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound for
around a
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:53:43PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > at first I'm lookings for a "cots" (commericial, off-the-shelf)
> > solution. The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.
> > I am thinking of the 'PC spea
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> at first I'm lookings for a "cots" (commericial, off-the-shelf)
> solution. The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.
> I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound for
> around a 25th/sec
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:01:31PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:47:49 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > If someone in the kernel-side would work with me and add the
> > Audio click, I will look at some of the netbooks to see how
> > usable they are.
>
> One problem
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:47:49 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> If someone in the kernel-side would work with me and add the
> Audio click, I will look at some of the netbooks to see how
> usable they are.
One problem might occur when the desired device doesn't have
a "PC speaker" fu
People,
Some of you know that I've been working on a speech-computer:
a small, easily portable computer than virtually anyone can
afford. (To be fair, there is a touchscreen device that uses
Windows. If you have at least $9,000 to spend.]
I ha
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