Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-13 Thread Bart Silverstrim
@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? You know, I'm no longer sure that's true. I think that spam will stick around as long as stupid business owners continue to get suckered into thinking that it's a legitimate means of marketing. One of my associate's cu

RE: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? >>> >> >>> You know, I'm no longer sure that's true. I think that spam will >>> stick around as long as stupid business owners continue to get >

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-11 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Doug Hardie wrote: On Mar 10, 2005, at 18:30, Warren Block wrote: milter-greylist works great with sendmail. Here's a somewhat-dated article I wrote about using it and clamav-milter with sendmail: http://www.wonkity.com/greylist.pdf I am getting a no such file back on that.

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-11 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > Actually, there is. Spam is what I object to. Non-spam is what I don't > object to. Find a way to code that in C, and you can become a billionnaire. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-11 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Mar 11, 2005, at 1:37 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kirk Strauser Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:42 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? You know, I'm no l

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-11 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Mar 11, 2005, at 1:34 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Atkielski Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:25 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? There'

RE: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Hardie > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:40 AM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? > > > > On Mar 10, 2005, at 01:49, Ted Mittelsta

RE: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kirk Strauser > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:42 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? > > You know, I'm no longer su

RE: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:25 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? > > > There's no &g

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Doug Hardie
On Mar 10, 2005, at 18:30, Warren Block wrote: milter-greylist works great with sendmail. Here's a somewhat-dated article I wrote about using it and clamav-milter with sendmail: http://www.wonkity.com/greylist.pdf I am getting a no such file back on that.

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Charles Swiger wrote: On Mar 9, 2005, at 10:53 PM, Luciano Musacchio wrote: I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one here give me a hint on this? Consider greylisting, amavisd, SpamAssassin, an

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Doug Hardie
On Mar 10, 2005, at 17:38, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Doug Hardie writes: I doub't thats the reason. I am presuming you are referring to wanado.fr. No, I'm referring to e-mail sent directly from my own server (not relayed through Wanadoo). Time-Warner and a few other ISPs either reject it openly or

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Doug Hardie writes: > I doub't thats the reason. I am presuming you are referring to > wanado.fr. No, I'm referring to e-mail sent directly from my own server (not relayed through Wanadoo). Time-Warner and a few other ISPs either reject it openly or silently throw it away. > I know we have its

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Doug Hardie
On Mar 10, 2005, at 15:24, Anthony Atkielski wrote: As it is, sometimes I can't answer clients by e-mail because their own ISPs (e.g., anything run by Time-Warner) simply throw away my e-mail because it doesn't come from a Big ISP. I doub't thats the reason. I am presuming you are referring to wa

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Doug Hardie writes: > Spam will only go away when people no longer respond to it. When there > is no revenue generated to cover the cost of spamming then it will end. Exactly. A surprising number of people _do_ respond to spam--more than enough to justify sending it. Ironically, I seem to see

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Luciano Musacchio wrote: Hi, I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one here give me a hint on this? thanks # sudo ipfw add 1 deny ip from any to me 25 :-) Should do the trick. Actually, it's a never-ending

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 10 March 2005 12:40, Doug Hardie wrote: > Unfortunately it does nothing for the spammers who get their own domain > and establish their own SPF records. Not necessarily true. If you can *force* senders to tie themselves to their own domain, then it becomes rather easy to blacklist t

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Doug Hardie
On Mar 10, 2005, at 01:49, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The only long term solution that is going to work is modding the DNS records to designate an official SMTP server for each domain, such a plan has been in the works for a while among the standard bodies that know what they are doing. SPF is only go

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 21:53, Luciano Musacchio wrote: > I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), > I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one here give > me a hint on this? I just wrote an article for Free Software Magazine on this subject. It's av

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:54 PM, Mike Hauber wrote: On Wednesday 09 March 2005 10:53 pm, Luciano Musacchio wrote: Hi, I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one here give me a hint on this? thanks heh... I'm working on

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 10, 2005, at 6:44 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: FreeBSD 4.EIGHT came with Sendmail 8.12.8 out of the box. OK, so now your not too lazy to understand Sendmail, you just have a gigantic chip on your shoulder against it so your going to ignore the most popular MTA on the planet and pretend it do

RE: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Horsfall > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:42 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: how to deal with spam for good? > > > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Ted Mittels

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Dmitry Kozhevnikov
LM> Hi, LM> I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), LM> I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one here give LM> me a hint on this? LM> thanks Spamers are too lazy to subscribe freebsd-questions, so they can't post here :) -- WBR, Dmitry Kozhevnikov

RE: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Charles Swiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:17 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions list > Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? > > > On Mar 10, 2005, a

RE: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > The only long term solution that is going to work is modding the > DNS records to designate an official SMTP server for each domain, such > a plan has been in the works for a while among the standard bodies > that know what they are doing. Which, of

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Michael W. Oliver
On 2005-03-10T01:49:20-0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [snip caustic commentary] [snip real-life facts] > The only long term solution that is going to work is modding the > DNS records to designate an official SMTP server for each domain, such > a plan has been in the works for a while among the st

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 10, 2005, at 4:49 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: This is bullshit, milter-greylist is in the ports. Greylisting does not require postfix. Just because YOU are too lazy to understand sendmail doesen't mean everyone else is. I've paid my dues to sendmail: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 00:53:58 -0300 Luciano Musacchio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), > I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one here give > me a hint on this? mail/dspampd and mail/dspam-devel As for the list

RE: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
tandard bodies that know what they are doing. Ted > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Swiger > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:51 PM > To: Luciano Musacchio > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: how

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-09 Thread Charles Swiger
On Mar 9, 2005, at 10:53 PM, Luciano Musacchio wrote: I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one here give me a hint on this? Consider greylisting, amavisd, SpamAssassin, and a virus scanner of your choice. Greylis

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-09 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Luciano Musacchio wrote: > I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), It does, and I report it (but not the mailing list itself). -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.

Re: how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-09 Thread Mike Hauber
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 10:53 pm, Luciano Musacchio wrote: > Hi, > I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? > :), I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one > here give me a hint on this? > > thanks heh... I'm working on that right now, actually... :) Th

how to deal with spam for good?

2005-03-09 Thread Luciano Musacchio
Hi, I'm wondering, how does this mailing list doesn't get any spam? :), I need to set some filter on my mail server, can some one here give me a hint on this? thanks -- www.eXactas.org - La Universidad Evolutiva ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailin