Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

Somebody should talk to HP and see what FreeDOS 2.0 includes. They are already shipping machines that support it: http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c04027658&DocLang=en&docLocale=en_US&jumpid=reg_r1002_usen_c-001_title_r0001 On a more serious note, somebody should tr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS / SeaBIOS on modern hardware

On 12/31/2014 5:12 PM, Kevin O'Connor wrote: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 03:50:09PM -0800, Ralf Quint wrote: >> A better spend time (and money?) would be to convince someone at the SeaBIOS >> project to help providing an (U)EFI boot stub, upon which a "classic" 16bit >> FreeDOS then could boot just "

Re: [Freedos-devel] drives.exe

My version does in DOSEMU running netrunner linux enigma I just recompiled this with mytoolbox with a patched CRT.lib. usage: fu /DRIVETYPE http://digitalatoll.com/pub/DMSOFT/fu-2.32r50.zip -- -Chris Evans Computer Consultant, Systems Administrator, Programmer, PC technician Digitalatoll Solutio

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS / SeaBIOS on modern hardware

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 03:50:09PM -0800, Ralf Quint wrote: > A better spend time (and money?) would be to convince someone at the SeaBIOS > project to help providing an (U)EFI boot stub, upon which a "classic" 16bit > FreeDOS then could boot just "like in the old days" on the newest systems... FY

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

Looks like I forgot to make the "read NovOS letter" into a link, so here is the URL: http://www.ctyme.com/dri2.htm On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > Mike pointed out that the FreeDOS Road Map > (wiki) is out of > date a

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

On 12/31/2014 4:22 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > It's not my kickstarter project, but I'll watch and see what happens. > I agree that FreeDOS-32 is a tough prospect. As you can guess from my > other post, I'm very concerned that they can maintain any application > compatibility while adding modern har

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

> > > FreeDOS-32 was born dead IMHO. You simply can't not do what they had in > mind and still be "100% application compatible". That's why they had to > start over and over again, without really getting anywhere. > And you won't find anyone writing any new software for it that fills all > the need

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

On 12/31/2014 1:48 PM, Jim Hall wrote: FreeDOS-32 has been around a long time (since 2000) but they haven't released anything to date. I was in occasional email contact with one or two of the developers at the time, and I know they suffered poor project stability. They completely started over

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

On 12/31/2014 10:40 AM, Michael Brutman wrote: I am a little skeptical about the prospects for success on this project. The FreeDOS roadmap ( http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/FreeDOS_Road_Map ) is out of date and short on details. I would like to see a broad discussion on the roadmap, g

Re: [Freedos-devel] drives.exe

On Linux DOSemu, DRIVES doesn't report any disks at all. I just get "Detected drives: 0" Here's a screenshot: http://www.freedos.org/jhall/temp/dosemu-drives-screenshot.png But from FreeDOS, I have C:, D:, E:, and Z: drives. DOSemu version 1.4.0.8 - 18.20131022git.fc20 on Fedora 21. I'm using

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > Jim, will your installer still need the .LSM files?If so, do you need them > for each .EXE or just for each package? > > The LSM needs to be present (it goes in APPINFO, I think) but the new installer doesn't read LSM files. It just reads

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 and 2.0 roadmap discussion

Mike pointed out that the FreeDOS Road Map (wiki) is out of date and short on details and suggested a broad discussion on the road map, get consensus and have it updated. I figured we should start a separate discussion thread about that. F

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > I have nothing against the project at all (it would be awesome to have a > DOS with 32 bit speed) but I have to say I agree with Mike - the two > projects should keep separate names. FreeDOS should remain an enhanced > clone of MS-DOS sin

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

Jim, will your installer still need the .LSM files?If so, do you need them for each .EXE or just for each package? -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

On 12/31/2014 08:17 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: > As much as I like my 16 bit machines, I'm open to making mTCP 32 bit > friendly. That would be great! When it happens, I will be happy to port my DOS networking software to mTCP (that is, the "FDNPKG" package manager and my gopher client "Gopheru

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

As the old year is passing and you mention FDNPKG I would like to point to my website at https://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox2/ I worked on the website in September but wasn't able to polish it as much as I hoped for. I would like to add another image for networking with ms client.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

i made a custom version of fdpkg that simply updates the directory creating mechanics of it i wish it has mtcp support >< so we can have a 16 bit answer to fdnpkg -- View this message in context: http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/Working-on-FreeDOS-1-2-tp21507p21524.html Sent from the FreeD

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

Aha, and here I thought I was being original lol The version of FreeDOS I use for development is a premade image with VirtualBox networking already set up. It doesn't include your software, so I guess its existence slipped my mind. Sorry about that. On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Mateusz Viste

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

So far as a tutorial, I'm afraid nothing jumps to mind. However, in my tests I found that the DOS4GW extender which ships with Watcom is the fastest. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

I have nothing against the project at all (it would be awesome to have a DOS with 32 bit speed) but I have to say I agree with Mike - the two projects should keep separate names. FreeDOS should remain an enhanced clone of MS-DOS since anything which takes it into the 32 bit realm would, in my mind,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

As much as I like my 16 bit machines, I'm open to making mTCP 32 bit friendly. The code is very careful with data types - I never use "int" when the number of bits matters. The trouble spots are going to be the IP checksum routine which is hand-optimized assembly, my time of day code which looks

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

I am a little skeptical about the prospects for success on this project. The FreeDOS roadmap ( http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/FreeDOS_Road_Map ) is out of date and short on details. I would like to see a broad discussion on the roadmap, get consensus and have it updated. Anything that use

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

> Dunfield & Potthast already have PCI bus/NIC sniffers [0][1] and a > collections of NIC packet drivers as well Georg has some useful stuff there, but the bus scanner isn't (currently, at least) open source software and couldn't be included in FreeDOS. ---

Re: [Freedos-devel] Project 16

yup thats it~ -- View this message in context: http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/Project-16-tp21479p21517.html Sent from the FreeDOS - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Program

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

On 12/31/2014 08:02 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > Another thing we could do, in the same vein as the suggestions by Matej, > would be to make an "app store" of sorts which would function as a > package manager. When run, this program would search the user's hard > drive to see what components are i

[Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

I'm curious what the specific uses are being proposed for FreeDOS-32 ? The kickstarter site mentions supporting DJGPP compiled programs which use DPMI. This is already supported in FreeDOS. It further mentions hard real time and threading. There are already user-space threading packages avai

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

Another thing we could do, in the same vein as the suggestions by Matej, would be to make an "app store" of sorts which would function as a package manager. When run, this program would search the user's hard drive to see what components are installed, determine their version and see if there is an

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

FDNPKG: I can help you with the changes to FDNPKG to allow it to compile under Open Watcom and to use mTCP. I would certainly like to see more people using mTCP to build their applications. However, is moving to mTCP going to improve FDNPKG enough to make it worth the effort? (That is just some

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Matej Horvat wrote: [SNIP] > I agree that a better installer is needed (the one in 1.1 seemed to be > slow and generated broken AUTOEXEC.BAT files for non-US(?) keyboard > layouts). I think we should adapt FDNPKG so it can be compiled with Open > Watcom and use mTC

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

Hi all, The latest Slovene translations of everything are available here (with many other translations): http://freedoslocal.sourceforge.net/ I appeal to anyone having any translation updates to send them to me, so I will add them there. I can also provide svn rights to whoever would like to

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

I was actually working on a feature like this for my GUI so that it could automatically load drivers, which does a simple scan of the PCI bus and reports the devices it finds. There is already a list of PCI device IDs available at pcidatabase.com, which may be useful to us. I could extract my PCI s

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

On Wednesday, December 31, 2014, Matej Horvat wrote: > (...) > And finally, it would be nice if my Slovene translations (not 100% > complete yet though) could be included in the distribution. :) > > Hi Matej It's usually best to send translations of program strings (i.e. KITTEN or CATS) to the p

Re: [Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

I agree that a better installer is needed (the one in 1.1 seemed to be slow and generated broken AUTOEXEC.BAT files for non-US(?) keyboard layouts). I think we should adapt FDNPKG so it can be compiled with Open Watcom and use mTCP so it can be 8086-compatible. After installation, it could

[Freedos-devel] Working on FreeDOS 1.2

Harold (AKA Mercury Thirteen) and I have been discussing creating a FreeDOS 1.2 distribution. He's volunteered to put together the new distribution. I thought we should share that with freedos-devel to see if anyone else wants to help with this! FreeDOS 1.2 is planned to be a refresh to FreeDOS 1.

[Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

Chelson Aitcheson has just started an independent Kickstarter project to fund development for FreeDOS-32, in support of a FreeDOS 2.0 distribution. I will also post a note about this on the FreeDOS website, but I wanted to share a link here for those who wanted to contribute. https://www.kickstart