Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-04 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > > stop top-replying, but use inline-replying from now on. > I participate in some lists where the rule is top replying... > Some people think it is better because it is faster to read bigger > quantity of messages :) I personally suggest inline replying combined with shortening quotes. Of

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Alain M.
Robert Riebisch escreveu: > To avoid such confusion in the future it might be good idea to stop > top-replying, but use inline-replying from now on. I participate in some lists where the rule is top replying... Some people think it is better because it is faster to read bigger quantity of messag

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Robert Riebisch
"Alain M." wrote: > Sorry, Ladislav and Florian... > > I realyzed that I was not clear in may question: I want to know about > this driver: "XMGR and UIDE" with SATA, available in the link bellow. To avoid such confusion in the future it might be good idea to stop top-replying, but use inline-re

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Alain M.
Sorry, Ladislav and Florian... I realyzed that I was not clear in may question: I want to know about this driver: "XMGR and UIDE" with SATA, available in the link bellow. The older XDMA.SYS I have installed in many of machines and I know for sure that it is stable... Thanks for your answers :)

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Florian Xaver
From: "Alain M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "fd-dev" ; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:47 PM > Subject: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage... > > >> That is a prety impressive driver... >> >> I would l

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Ladislav Lacina
y, June 03, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: [Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage... > That is a prety impressive driver... > > I would like to know who is using it and in what situations, specially > real-world cases (as oposed to simulations, not fantasy :) ) > > tha

[Freedos-devel] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

2008-06-03 Thread Alain M.
That is a prety impressive driver... I would like to know who is using it and in what situations, specially real-world cases (as oposed to simulations, not fantasy :) ) thanks to all, Alain Eric Auer escreveu: > Hi! > >>> [...] and that you can use Jack's UIDE driver with UDMA >>> and SATA hard

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Devore
At 09:21 PM 3/29/2004 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: >>Not yet, looks like it should be. I'll see about it, read what MS docs say about >>the option. Should be a reasonably quick add, since it's awfully close to NOEMS in >>a lot of behaviors. > >suggested using FRAME=NONE to Erwin, since he needs

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Hi Michael, Not yet, looks like it should be. I'll see about it, read what MS docs say about the option. Should be a reasonably quick add, since it's awfully close to NOEMS in a lot of behaviors. suggested using FRAME=NONE to Erwin, since he needs to limit VCPI to 2MB, but NOEMS makes 32MB on

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Devore
At 04:58 PM 3/29/2004 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: >btw, is FRAME=NONE supported in EMM386.EXE rc2 ? Not yet, looks like it should be. I'll see about it, read what MS docs say about the option. Should be a reasonably quick add, since it's awfully close to NOEMS in a lot of behaviors. --

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Bernd, BB> can Lucho, Michael or Tom confirm VDS is only needed when EMS is provided? VDS is required, if logical adresses (as seen from CPU) != physical addresses (as seen from UDMA controller). In praxis, with our current EMM386, addresses <= 0xa are mapped identical, so everything w

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread Bernd Blaauw
that's nice. So VDS is required when EMS is served, not when VCPI and/or UMBs are provided. NOEMS and EMS settings use different blockdevice-names: one more optimizing thing for me then: @echo off rem load UDMA from commandline using DEVLOAD program. /H = DEVICEHIGH behaviour. rem try NOEMS first,

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread Johnson Lam
Hello, >>I'll try DEVICEHIGH with EMM386. >>didn't Tom implement a basic VDS option? >>DEVICE=EMM386.EXE VDS Even Lucho said UDMA need VDS, I simply use the DEVICE=EMM386.EXE NOEMS it works fine. It's more stable than FDDXMS+UMBPCI in my ALI Aladdin chipset, using FDDXMS+UMBPCI sometimes UDMA cl

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Luchezar Georgiev schreef: I think that each OS has its own niche. Neiether Linux nor DOS can oust each other. But try to fit a Linux in the BIOS flash ROM chip when you have only several tens of kilobytes free there! www.linuxbios.org ---

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:50:39 +0800, Johnson Lam wrote: Though the driver may not bug free, but it bring the technology back to DOS. Still have a lot of people including my friend think that DOS is out, why not Linux? I think that each OS has its own niche. Neiether Linux nor DOS can oust each o

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-29 Thread Johnson Lam
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:34:56 +0300, you wrote: Hi Lucho, >It's good to have so experienced programmers contribute to FreeDOS. One >thing could prevent them from doing so though - the possibility of being Though the driver may not bug free, but it bring the technology back to DOS. Still have a

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-28 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:56:48 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: crash if UDMA loaded high, but no VDS present // XMS-test should have been done and succeeded. UDMA checks if VDS are active and if so, uses them to "lock" the buffer and obtain a physical address, else calculates the physical address itse

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-28 Thread Michael Devore
At 12:56 AM 3/29/2004 +0200, Bernd Blaauw wrote: >I'll try DEVICEHIGH with EMM386. >didn't Tom implement a basic VDS option? >DEVICE=EMM386.EXE VDS I strongly recommend against using the VDS option. It apparently was broken before my VCPI and UMB work and the UMB code I added at a minimum broke

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-28 Thread Bernd Blaauw
guessed UDMA flowchart: 0)init 1)check soutbridge // if southbridge unknown, abort 2)do basic tests // if a test fails, abort 3)check for XMS // if fail, go to 5 4)do advanced tests // XMS required, if a test fails, abort 5)load UDMA-code/driver 6)crash if UDMA loaded high, but no VDS present // X

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-28 Thread Michael Devore
At 05:34 PM 3/28/2004 +0300, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: >On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:23:44 -0600, Michael Devore wrote: > >>It's an ALi M5229, which is an Acer Labs Aladin IV+ TX PRO if that's what you mean. >>I don't know a south bridge from a London bridge or a dental bridge, myself. > >M5229 is the i

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-28 Thread Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze
Luchezar Georgiev wrote: It's good to have so experienced programmers contribute to FreeDOS. One thing could prevent them from doing so though - the possibility of being "flamed off" in our forums. Not everyone can withstand the ingratitude, disrespect and quarrelsomeness that SOMETIMES pour fr

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-28 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:23:44 -0600, Michael Devore wrote: It's an ALi M5229, which is an Acer Labs Aladin IV+ TX PRO if that's what you mean. I don't know a south bridge from a London bridge or a dental bridge, myself. M5229 is the integrated UDMA IDE controller. The south bridge chip must be

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-27 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 27-Мар-2004 15:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MD> It's an ALi M5229, which is an Acer Labs Aladin IV+ TX PRO if that's what MD> you mean. I don't know a south bridge from a London bridge or a dental MD> bridge, myself. All curent chipsets contain two

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-27 Thread Michael Devore
At 09:54 AM 3/27/2004 +0200, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: >On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:38:50 -0600, Michael Devore wrote: > >>>UDMA requires VDS in V86 mode. Without XMS driver it can't do its tests and loads >>>but fails. >> >>HIMEM gives XMS without V86, so it theoretically should work in that situation.

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA

2004-03-27 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 13:38:50 -0600, Michael Devore wrote: UDMA requires VDS in V86 mode. Without XMS driver it can't do its tests and loads but fails. HIMEM gives XMS without V86, so it theoretically should work in that situation. Yes, but in practice it doesn't work everywhere. What chipset (so

Re: [Freedos-devel] UDMA questions

2004-02-19 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:11:22 +0800, Johnson Lam wrote: Just curious, can I ask why you quit coding UDMA? I just got a UDMA problem about my weird PC and want to ask you for help. If you quit because of reasons other than busy life. I've to ask the next maintainer ... But I doubt very much. How ma

[Freedos-devel] UDMA questions

2004-02-19 Thread Johnson Lam
Hi Lucho, Just curious, can I ask why you quit coding UDMA? I just got a UDMA problem about my weird PC and want to ask you for help. If you quit because of reasons other than busy life. I've to ask the next maintainer ... But I doubt very much. How many people can code such a low-level device d

[Freedos-devel] UDMA 6.9 is out

2004-02-09 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
UDMA version 6.9 is out. The most important change is that it now works on systems with *any* CHS geometry, most notably on Compaq (HP) systems with 240 logical heads (previously it required 255 heads). This increased the resident part size from 592 to 624 bytes. Please test on Intel 82801EB (ICH-5

[Freedos-devel] UDMA 6.8 is out, TUNZ 1.0 announcement

2004-01-31 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
This is to announce two things: UDMA 6.8 is out. Besides the ubiquitous optimisations, the main news in it is that especially for some badly written BIOS's pretending to meet but *not* meeting the EDD standard, a special hardware-only scan mode has been added. If anyone can test it on the latest I