Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom, was Re: Booting and FDAPM

2023-03-19 Thread Bernd Boeckmann via Freedos-devel
Hi Jerome, > At present, the RBE is not setup to include 2 branches from the same GitLab > project. > > It would require a separate GitLab project (with a different name, like > watcomv2). I think having two different watcom C packages could cause user > confusion on which one to install. It

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom, was Re: Booting and FDAPM

2023-03-18 Thread Michael Brutman
+1 - Open Watcom 1.9 is stable and safe. I think those factors make it the default for inclusion in a distribution. Something actively under development and in between releases sounds like a bad idea. On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 5:42 AM wrote: > Hi Bernd, > > > On Mar 17, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Bernd B

[Freedos-devel] watcom, was Re: Booting and FDAPM

2023-03-18 Thread jerome
Hi Bernd, > On Mar 17, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Bernd Boeckmann via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > IDLEHALT=1 works for my machines and reduces the CPU load under VirtualBox to > nearly zero at the command prompt. > >> Am 17.03.2023 um 15:25 schrieb jer...@shidel.net: >> >> On a side note… Why run the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Watcom COM format directive

2018-07-11 Thread TK Chia
Hello Rugxulo, This is interesting --- thanks! For my part, I found that `wcl' with `-l=com' does indeed work on my machine. Apparently `wcl -l=com' will actually pass `system com' (instead of `format dos com') to `wlink'. I am not sure how `format dos com' works (if it is supposed to work

Re: [Freedos-devel] Watcom COM format directive

2018-07-11 Thread Tom Ehlert
> I'm trying to link a program as a COM executable, but when I add the > "format DOS COM" directive to the linker, it complains that libraries > aren't available (such as clibs.lib). It works fine and produces an EXE > if I leave out this directive. What's really happening? just don't use .COM f

Re: [Freedos-devel] Watcom COM format directive

2018-07-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 6:29 AM David McMackins wrote: > I'm trying to link a program as a COM executable, but when I add the > "format DOS COM" directive to the linker, it complains that libraries > aren't available (such as clibs.lib). It works fine and produces an EXE > if I leave out this

[Freedos-devel] Watcom COM format directive

2018-07-11 Thread David McMackins
I'm trying to link a program as a COM executable, but when I add the "format DOS COM" directive to the linker, it complains that libraries aren't available (such as clibs.lib). It works fine and produces an EXE if I leave out this directive. What's really happening? Happy Hacking, David E. McMack

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/8/11, Jim Michaels wrote: > > they are available here. > http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/index.html I've never used cURL, but apparently latest is 7.21.7. I blindly wonder if it'll still compile with DJGPP + WATT-32 (too preoccupied to personally try right now, doh). Anyways, here's link

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-08 Thread Jim Michaels
cURL has no problem with ftp:// it handles LOTS of protocols > >From: Michael B. Brutman >To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:32 PM >Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp > > > On 7/6/2011 6:0

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-08 Thread Jim Michaels
they are available here. http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/index.html > >From: Bernd Blaauw >To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:02 PM >Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp > >Op 3-7-2011 4:26, Micha

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-08 Thread Jim Michaels
s measured in MiB and GiB. > >From: Bernd Blaauw >To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:27 AM >Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp > >Op 6-7-2011 6:22, Steve Nickolas schreef: >> On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Jim Michaels

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-07 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 7-7-2011 15:37, Steve Nickolas schreef: > On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > > I think the RTL-8139 chipset does and it's still quite common. > And there I was, wanting high-performant low-CPU network cards (with also packet drivers): * Intel Gigabit PCI-card (10/100Mbit fallback) * In

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-07 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > I'm happy with whatever I can get. My real hardware has an Nvidia > chipset network driver for which no packet drivers exist, so sticking to > virtual machines. I wonder if any PCI (or even PCI-express or onboard) > network cards still support packet drive

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-07 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bernd, > I'm happy with whatever I can get. My real hardware has an Nvidia > chipset network driver for which no packet drivers exist, so sticking to > virtual machines. I wonder if any PCI (or even PCI-express or onboard) > network cards still support packet drivers. You probably can stil

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-06 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 7-7-2011 1:32, Michael B. Brutman schreef: > mTCP FTP compares poorly to the native stack and FireFox there, but FTP > is working in a very limited environment: > > * The TCP/IP socket receive buffer is tiny compared to the native > network stack > * You are doing filesystem writes 8KB

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 7/6/2011 6:02 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: ftp://ftp.xs4all.nl/pub/test/10mb.bin : 1) 2.0 to 2.5MByte/second ( around 20Mbit/s, 25Mbit ISP subscription) 2) N/A , WGET not working 3) 500Kbyte/second ( around 4Mbit/s) mTCP FTP compares poorly to the native stack and FireFox there, but FTP is worki

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-06 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-7-2011 4:26, Michael B. Brutman schreef: > The second parameter is optional and allows you to do the rename. This > is similar to Unix command line clients. Tested tonight, works like a charm :) Confusingly, I've now got trouble getting WGET working, as I had the intention of downloading fr

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-06 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 6-7-2011 6:22, Steve Nickolas schreef: > On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Jim Michaels wrote: > >> how on earth shall I expect to build a bootable ISO image with mkisofs? > > Put a boot floppy image in the folder and use > mkisofs -b filename.144 -o filename.iso path/ And isolinux as bootloader, instea

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Jim Michaels wrote: > how on earth shall I expect to build a bootable ISO image with mkisofs? Put a boot floppy image in the folder and use mkisofs -b filename.144 -o filename.iso path/ -- All of t

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Michaels
how on earth shall I expect to build a bootable ISO image with mkisofs?   > >From: Rugxulo >To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 1:23 AM >Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp > >Hi, > >On 7/2/11, B

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Michaels
DOS version of cURL can be obtained from http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/index.html > >From: Bernd Blaauw >To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 5:42 PM >Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp > >Op 3-7-2011

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread François Revol
Le mardi 05 juillet 2011 à 15:17 -0500, Rugxulo a écrit : > > http://www.torlus.com/floppy/ > > Good to know (SD card reader / USB floppy emulator hardware), but > there's still probably some drawbacks. > > I've got a USB floppy drive, and it works with FreeDOS, but other > non-BIOS-using OSes ne

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/5/11, François Revol wrote: > Le mardi 05 juillet 2011 à 03:23 -0500, Rugxulo a écrit : >> >> > That's not helping a "hey >> > let's boot from floppy, configure internet access and install from >> > downloaded/mounted ISO file" >> >> Floppies just don't hold enough. Add to that the fact

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread François Revol
Le mardi 05 juillet 2011 à 03:23 -0500, Rugxulo a écrit : > > > That's not helping a "hey > > let's boot from floppy, configure internet access and install from > > downloaded/mounted ISO file" > > Floppies just don't hold enough. Add to that the fact that they fail > semi-frequently, and you hav

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On 7/2/11, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 3-7-2011 2:59, Rugxulo schreef: >> I guess you mean Mike plans to write something like this one day. We >> do already have a port of WGET (via DJGPP), but I've not heavily >> tested it. (Or did you mean one with IPv6 support?? Dunno ...) >> >> http://www.ib

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 7/2/2011 8:25 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Ah good news. > Basicly FTP.EXE already suffices, except for the following: > * FTP-only, no http/https > * requires entering commands or external script as input > * no renaming for storing (www.mysite.com/somelongfilename.zip --> > c:\short.zip) mTCP FT

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-7-2011 2:59, Rugxulo schreef: > I guess you mean Mike plans to write something like this one day. We > do already have a port of WGET (via DJGPP), but I've not heavily > tested it. (Or did you mean one with IPv6 support?? Dunno ...) > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/n

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-7-2011 3:03, Michael B. Brutman schreef: > [1] A fully featured wget will be difficult to get into the memory > space. I have plans for a simple version that does not recurse, does > not support Unicode, etc. Ah good news. Basicly FTP.EXE already suffices, except for the following: * FTP-onl

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 7/2/2011 7:42 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 3-7-2011 1:54, François Revol schreef: >> Any of those two supports IPv6 ? So FreeDOS can survive the IPcalypse :D > Don't think so. > > Stuff I can think of which is missing: > 1) WGET/CURL > 2) WOL-client to wake up machines in the network by sending

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 3-7-2011 1:54, François Revol schreef: > >> Any of those two supports IPv6 ? So FreeDOS can survive the IPcalypse :D > > Don't think so. > > Stuff I can think of which is missing: > 1) WGET/CURL I guess you mean Mike plans to write som

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 3-7-2011 1:54, François Revol schreef: > Any of those two supports IPv6 ? So FreeDOS can survive the IPcalypse :D Don't think so. Stuff I can think of which is missing: 1) WGET/CURL 2) WOL-client to wake up machines in the network by sending magic packet 3) IP v6 4) Jumboframes (9000 bytes I t

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread François Revol
Le samedi 02 juillet 2011 à 09:32 -0500, Michael B. Brutman a écrit : > Thanks for the plugs for mTCP - I am buried in work and away from email > for a good part of the day. > > There are a lot more WATTCP apps out there because WATTCP has been > around a lot longer, and there is a benefit to th

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-02 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Thanks for the plugs for mTCP - I am buried in work and away from email for a good part of the day. There are a lot more WATTCP apps out there because WATTCP has been around a lot longer, and there is a benefit to that long term stability. I think that I have covered the more popular applicat

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-01 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 1-7-2011 23:53, Rugxulo schreef: > Hi, quick reply, (others know way more than I do here), http://www.crynwr.com/ should do the trick for packet drivers. Loading method: * find correct packet driver for your network interface card * load it (usually type its name, sometimes specific options

[Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-01 Thread Edwin Rhodes
Hello I am trying to find watcom tcpip drivers and utils to connect a 286 running dos 5 to the internet I have an 3c509 card packet driver and neeed watcom tcp where can I get watcom tcp? Thanks ed -- All of the data gen

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom tcp

2011-07-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, quick reply, (others know way more than I do here), On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Edwin Rhodes wrote: > > Hello I am trying to find watcom tcpip drivers and utils to connect a 286 > running dos 5 to the internet I have an 3c509 card packet driver and neeed > watcom tcp where can I get watco

[Freedos-devel] WATCOM http://wiki.fdos.org/Main/OpenWatcom

2009-11-05 Thread dos386
What version of WATCOM is the most recommended one ? Almost 1 year elapsed since 1.8 release, there were some complaints by Japheth about "JWASM doesn't compile with 1.8 anymore" in the past, but latest releases report to compile fine with both 1.7a and 1.8, although nothing has been fixed in WATC

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom RTL sources

2004-02-13 Thread Steffen Kaiser
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > Steffen, I found, that for RTL sources also need bld/lib_misc > directory. May you prepare (and resend) it too? You will find it here: http://www2.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de/~skaise2a/ska/ow/lib_misc.tar.bz2 Bye, -- Steffen Kaiser -

[Freedos-devel] watcom RTL sources

2004-02-08 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! Steffen, I found, that for RTL sources also need bld/lib_misc directory. May you prepare (and resend) it too? --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom

2004-02-04 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 4-Фев-2004 10:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> - WHELP doesn't support fast search (by first typed letters). LG> It does - press S and then type - it searches as you type. `S' searches only in list, which (somewhat) equal to index. It doesn't searc

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom

2004-02-04 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:35:55 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote: - WHELP doesn't lists help files (in current and/or startup directory). - WHELP doesn't shows help file header (for example, "Open Watcom C/C++ Getting Started") in Contents. - WHELP doesn't remembers last position in Contents. -

[Freedos-devel] watcom

2004-02-03 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! Well, I summarize my first impressions with Watcom in (short) list: __O\_/_\_/O__ OpenWatcom wishes, issues, troubles and bugs Distributive: - no descriptions for archives and files in

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom

2004-02-03 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > 3-æÅ×-2004 15:17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > LG> "_emit" can be replaced by "db", > > __emit__ (was) allow to point variable names (including local). Though, > I don't use this feature and now replace s

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom

2004-02-03 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 3-Фев-2004 15:17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LG> "_emit" can be replaced by "db", __emit__ (was) allow to point variable names (including local). Though, I don't use this feature and now replace some __emit__ occurences by explicit inline asm. BTW,

Re: [Freedos-devel] watcom

2004-02-03 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 05:06:41 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But there remains unrecoverable errors, because Watcom doesn't knows register pseudo-variables (_AX, etc) and __emit__. Unforunately, there are places, where inline asm is required. Fortunately, Watcom knows pre

[Freedos-devel] watcom

2004-02-02 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! First try is negative. :) :( I try to compile my MEM with Watcom, but without (full) success. There was some small things, which I correct to make WPP happy: - to remove warnings about truncation, I add some castings. (Strange, that without casting WPP gives this warning for "SYS.OS.fl