Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo just needs packaging

On 28.05.2024 19:00, thraex via Freedos-devel wrote: There's also someone who has been updating zoo with bug fixes for UNIX-like platforms on , maybe cherry-picking some of them could make sense. Cherry-picking might not the best idea here. In my opinion pro

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo just needs packaging

On 23.05.2024 21:29, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: I already incorporated rugxulos changes to my local copy of the ZOO FreeDOS package repository. I will push the changes as soon as I get write access to the repo. This is ZOO version 2.1. Hey, that's really nice! :) Unfortunately

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo just needs packaging

On 23.05.2024 21:20, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote: Apparently people somehow failed to come to a conclusion which version of ZOO to package under which license in January 2024. Zoo is in the public domain, with no strings attached. Years ago someone from Debain had sent an e-mail to R

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

On 23.05.2024 13:56, Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel wrote: a) fdtui - a mixture between dosshell and an NC clone - please check it, I am sure you will confirm, (sorry, Berki) [Now that I have seen Jim's mail showing list services are working again, I'm sending my messages that got bounce

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo just needs packaging

On 5/23/2024 11:29 AM, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: I second that. No need to throw anything out if it gets fixed. Isn't it an aspect of FreeDOS to keep old software available? Throwing everything out that might not be of use to many would contradict that goal. +1 Ralf

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

On 5/22/2024 11:35 AM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: it seems that no knowledgable person finds zoo interesting enough to fix it. and those who care about zoo have no clue. I regret that I have to say this. Tom Was zoo even popular in its heyday? I don't think so. Well, yes, it was quit

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

On at 2024-05-23 11:42 +0100, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 19:22, E. C. Masloch via Freedos-devel wrote: 64 Ki * 16 KiB = 1024 MiB. (The actual maximum amount of clusters is of course slightly less than 64 Ki, to be exacting.) So you're off-by-one, a "2 GB" file

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

[..] > > But I got the feedback from Jerome to ask the FD mailing list first as it > > is not possible to remove it if only one person > > asks for removing. So I did this. > > So Jerome is now suddenly the official rule maker for FreeDOS? I don't > remember dicussing this. > No. I think it was

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

Hi Tom, > On May 23, 2024, at 2:04 PM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi Wilhelm , > [..] >> But I got the feedback from Jerome to ask the FD mailing list first as it >> is not possible to remove it if only one person >> asks for removing. So I did this. > > So Jerome is now

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo just needs packaging

On 23.05.2024 20:20, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote: So the ONLY thing missing seems to be putting everything into a ZIP (yeah, no .ZOO) file in the usual FreeDOS structure, as has happened with my RUNTIME recently thanks to some support, help and contributions from Vacek and Jerome :-) I a

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo just needs packaging

Hi! To get the discussion a bit more productive again: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=21046&page=0&order=time&category=0 is the original thread and apparently RayeR has used Borland C to compile a fixed binary which Fritz has received and tested? So the ONLY thing miss

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

>> 64 Ki * 16 KiB = 1024 MiB. (The actual maximum amount of clusters is of >> course slightly less than 64 Ki, to be exacting.) So you're off-by-one, >> a "2 GB" file system cannot possibly be fully utilised with FAT16 at a >> 16 KiB per cluster size. > Ah, OK. My apologies. > Off-by-one errors

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

Hi Wilhelm , am Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2024 um 12:56 schrieben Sie: > Hi Tom, > > Thank you for not having a choleric attack! ;) > FDT24xx are monthly trial versions (if I remember right, you know it for two > or three months now). I know about "FreeDOS distributions", but I don't care

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

Hi, On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 11:17 AM tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: > > am Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2024 um 13:14 schrieben Sie: > > it seems that no knowledgable person finds zoo interesting enough to fix it. > and those who care about zoo have no clue. > I regret that I have to say this. We had

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

Hi Tom,   Thank you for not having a choleric attack! Telling the "Haus'l" that he has no clue is an honour for me! Why? Most of the information about bugs in FDT and about new versions are from me. FDT24xx are monthly trial versions (if I remember right, you know it for two or three mont

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 19:22, E. C. Masloch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > 64 Ki * 16 KiB = 1024 MiB. (The actual maximum amount of clusters is of > course slightly less than 64 Ki, to be exacting.) So you're off-by-one, > a "2 GB" file system cannot possibly be fully utilised with FAT16 at a > 16 K

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

>> it seems that no knowledgable person finds zoo interesting enough to fix it. >> and those who care about zoo have no clue. >> I regret that I have to say this. >> >> Tom > Was zoo even popular in its heyday? I don't think so. > I feel like when it comes to DOS, for the last 30 years it's be

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

> On Wed, 22 May 2024, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > it seems that no knowledgable person finds zoo interesting enough to fix > > it. > > and those who care about zoo have no clue. On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 12:24 PM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Was zoo even popular in i

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

On Wed, 22 May 2024, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: it seems that no knowledgable person finds zoo interesting enough to fix it. and those who care about zoo have no clue. I regret that I have to say this. Tom Was zoo even popular in its heyday? I feel like when it comes to DOS, for th

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

vel@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: "E. C. Masloch" > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo > On at 2024-05-19 00:37 +0100, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel wrote: >> On Fri, 17 May 2024 at 17:14, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel >> wrote: >> >>>> Below 1GB F

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

sloch" Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo On at 2024-05-19 00:37 +0100, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel wrote: > On Fri, 17 May 2024 at 17:14, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel > wrote: > >>> Below 1GB FAT16 uses 8kB clusters. From 1GB-2GB it uses 16kB ones. >>> (Below ½

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

On at 2024-05-19 00:37 +0100, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel wrote: On Fri, 17 May 2024 at 17:14, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: Below 1GB FAT16 uses 8kB clusters. From 1GB-2GB it uses 16kB ones. (Below ½GB it uses 4kB.) That would require FAT17. (?) Not at all. 64 Ki * 16 KiB = 102

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

On Fri, 17 May 2024 at 17:14, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Below 1GB FAT16 uses 8kB clusters. From 1GB-2GB it uses 16kB ones. > > (Below ½GB it uses 4kB.) > > That would require FAT17. (?) Not at all. Here is the full list: FAT12 Drive size Secs/cluster Cluster size < 16 MB

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

>> I ran one more test with zoo. It runs with FAT16 998 MB but not with FAT16 >> 1025 MB. > Below 1GB FAT16 uses 8kB clusters. From 1GB-2GB it uses 16kB ones. > (Below ½GB it uses 4kB.) That would require FAT17. and indeed the problem (which was solved in january) is with clustersize 32KB that

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

to check and fix such things. Thx.   W. Spiegl     Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:16 PM From: "Eric Auer via Freedos-devel" To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: "Eric Auer" Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo Hi! > I ran one more test with zoo. It runs with F

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

Hi! I ran one more test with zoo. It runs with FAT16 998 MB but not with FAT16 1025 MB. Did you use the original version for that test? Or the one already having the fix from the forum? The old zipper "zoo" has a built-in bug that prevents it to expand compressed files on FAT32 system.

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

On Thu, 16 May 2024 at 13:28, Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel wrote: > > I ran one more test with zoo. It runs with FAT16 998 MB but not with FAT16 > 1025 MB. Below 1GB FAT16 uses 8kB clusters. From 1GB-2GB it uses 16kB ones. (Below ½GB it uses 4kB.) When I was deploying FAT16 boxes I consider

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

via fdnpkg if really needed?   Fritz     Sent: Friday, May 03, 2024 at 4:56 PM From: "Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel" To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: "Fritz Mueller" Subject: [Freedos-devel] zoo >The trick is to send a completely new

[Freedos-devel] zoo

>The trick is to send a completely new mail to >freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net - this will >create a new thread. If you only reply to some >existing thread, mail software can recognize it >as part of the old thread, even if you change >the subject. T hen let's try if this works:   The old