Hi,
Ok sorry, got the reply later, and also the opinion I would vote for.
Aitor
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 05:13, Jon Brase wrote:
> >Apr 14, 2021 2:00:05 PM Ralf Quint :
>
> >And I stand by my comments that none of Windows 9x/ME is "running on
> DOS". I don't have the time right now to provide t
Hi Ralf,
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 19:11, Ralf Quint wrote:
> On 4/14/2021 8:54 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> >
> >> Reality is, Windows 95 dos and Windows 98SE DOS is not really dos per
> se
> > Wrong.
> Actually, in that part, Michael was correct. And as people like you seem
> to pushing that old my
Liam Proven composed on 2021-04-16 06:16 (UTC-0400):
> I run openSUSE Tumbleweed on my machine in the office. I have been
> working from home for over a year now. I think that when I finally
> return to the office, it will be easier to reformat the machine and
> start over than to update a year-ol
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 21:57, Jon Brase wrote:
I mostly agree with you. I would perhaps quibble with some details.
> Nope, I meant CPU. You start out with an unprotected CPU architecture like
> the 8086. The OS is basically just a set of hardware access libraries that
> applications can use or
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 18:50, Harald Arnesen wrote:
>
> I would try Void Linux and Alpine Linux on such hardware.
Good points. Thanks for the tips -- to be honest I did not know they
supported x86-32.
I have tried both before, but only in VMs. Void Linux I quite liked:
very simple and clean, but
Apr 15, 2021 1:10:25 PM tom ehlert :
>you probably meant 'OS architecture' (not CPU).
Nope, I meant CPU. You start out with an unprotected CPU architecture like the
8086. The OS is basically just a set of hardware access libraries that
applications can use or not as they wish (as they have dir
> I will note that Windows 95 *could* use DOS drivers. I/O
> performance suffered horribly since DOS drivers weren't thread safe,
> but there was a copy of DOS in the system VM for this purpose, even
> if it had nothing to do under normal circumstances.
> But to some degree this is a philosophical
Liam Proven [15.04.2021 16:34]:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 14:49, Jerome Shidel wrote:
>>
>> A while back, I was looking for a distro that still actively supported
>> 32-bit hardware. Most mainstream distros have
>> moved to 64-bit only. However, out of the ones I’ve tried that still do
>> 32-bit
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 14:49, Jerome Shidel wrote:
>
> A while back, I was looking for a distro that still actively supported 32-bit
> hardware. Most mainstream distros have
> moved to 64-bit only. However, out of the ones I’ve tried that still do
> 32-bit, most seem sluggish at best.
Interest
I primarily use openSUSE and CentOS.
But for a Live CD linux, I recommend checking out one that isn’t even in the
top 100 on the distrowatch list.
A while back, I was looking for a distro that still actively supported 32-bit
hardware. Most mainstream distros have
moved to 64-bit only. Howev
Hei, Thomas:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 05:54:35PM +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
thanks, Tomas, I will go the path you suggest. Any particular Linux flavor you
suggest for this?
(I would go for a „comand line interface“ only.)
You could use any Live CD (or USB) Linux distro, preferably one that
al
Hi Felix,
The "usual distro" of the day would be Ubuntu, with
MINT being a spin-off and with lightweight variants
such as Xubuntu or Lubuntu which default to install
less heavy graphical things than the normal Ubuntu.
MATE also is just yet another variant.
https://distrowatch.com/ has a "ran
>Apr 14, 2021 2:00:05 PM Ralf Quint :
>And I stand by my comments that none of Windows 9x/ME is "running on DOS". I
>don't have the time right now to provide the detailed proof for that, but just
>look at the addresses of some of the DOS services before the booting of the
>Windows 9x GUI and af
Eric Auer composed on 2021-04-14 18:15 (UTC+0200):
> The "usual distro" of the day would be Ubuntu, with
> MINT being a spin-off and with lightweight variants
> such as Xubuntu or Lubuntu which default to install
> less heavy graphical things than the normal Ubuntu.
> MATE also is just yet another
On 4/14/2021 11:10 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 19:11, Ralf Quint wrote:
Windows 95A uses MS-DOS 7, which it is possible to boot directly into
by editing the MSDOS.SYS file (which in this version is a
configuration file, not a binary as in older versions.)
Win95B and later u
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 19:11, Ralf Quint wrote:
> Actually, in that part, Michael was correct. And as people like you seem
> to pushing that old myth of "Windows 9x runs on top of DOS", one of my
> next projects when I find time will be to come up with the definitive
> proof for that...
I ran th
> Am 14.04.2021 um 19:16 schrieb Ralf Quint :
>
> On 4/14/2021 9:30 AM, Thomas Desi wrote:
>> Eric, Tomas,
>> thanks for this helpful info!
>>
>> If installing Linux helps to get my files out of FreeDos
>> (hm… „free my files!!“ - or is it a "Lockdown-Dos“?), I will do.
> You do not have to "in
On 4/14/2021 9:30 AM, Thomas Desi wrote:
Eric, Tomas,
thanks for this helpful info!
If installing Linux helps to get my files out of FreeDos
(hm… „free my files!!“ - or is it a "Lockdown-Dos“?), I will do.
You do not have to "install" Linux. Just use a Live CD (my suggestion is
still Linux Mint
On 4/14/2021 8:54 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
Reality is, Windows 95 dos and Windows 98SE DOS is not really dos per se
Wrong.
Actually, in that part, Michael was correct. And as people like you seem
to pushing that old myth of "Windows 9x runs on top of DOS", one of my
next projects when I find
On 4/14/2021 8:44 AM, Thomas Desi wrote:
UEFI Version AD2559B-ITX P1.40
CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550 @ 1.86GHz
Processor Speed: 1865MHz
I don’t use at Boot the „UEFI“, but USB- „Flash“ Disk…
That will definitely not work, you can't boot a FreeDOS install/system
with UEFI. You need to use
On 4/14/2021 8:09 AM, Thomas Desi wrote:
Am 14.04.2021 um 16:57 schrieb Tomas By :
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 16:25:37 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
[...] USB Stick on a FreeDOS [...] This is absolutely crucial to me,
otherwise how would I be able to get something out or in to the
computer??
By dual-bo
On 4/13/2021 11:39 AM, Michael Christopher Robinson wrote:
I am fully aware that BIOS used to be updated in MS-DOS. I am 41
years old, older than some people who seem to be experts on this and
probably older than Liam.
Well, Michael, I have still another 20 years on you (and working with
compu
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:30:43 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
> My „dream“ was it to „marry“ FreeDOS with a portable USB Stick
> (Backup and Carrying), whilst booting from a Harddisk and working on
> C:. But maybe this is n’t so important after all
It should work (unless I misunderstand it): work in Fre
Eric, Tomas,
thanks for this helpful info!
If installing Linux helps to get my files out of FreeDos
(hm… „free my files!!“ - or is it a "Lockdown-Dos“?), I will do.
My „dream“ was it to „marry“ FreeDOS with a portable USB Stick (Backup and
Carrying), whilst booting from a Harddisk and working
Hi Thomas,
> Any particular Linux flavor you suggest for this?
> (I would go for a „command line interface“ only.)
That sounds masochistic ;-) As long as you do not
need 3d accelerated drivers, a graphical desktop
for Linux should work on almost all hardware just
automatically. Of course you wil
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:54:35 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
> Any particular Linux flavor you suggest for this?
> (I would go for a „comand line interface“ only.)
Ubuntu should be fine, but Linux flavour not important. Also, don't
bother with changing the defaults. Use a graphical desktop and start a
Hi Thomas,
>> "I want to boot to freeDOS using a CD ROM.
That should be easy.
>> Then I want to insert a memory stick into the computer and copy
>> a file from the Windows HDD onto the memory stick.
That can be complicated. Often, the BIOS only helps DOS with
USB access after you have actuall
thanks, Tomas, I will go the path you suggest. Any particular Linux flavor you
suggest for this?
(I would go for a „comand line interface“ only.)
T-h-omas
> Am 14.04.2021 um 17:51 schrieb Tomas By :
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:44:13 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
>> [...] Any ideas?
>
> I think A an
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 14:02, Michael Christopher Robinson
wrote:
>
> I am fully aware that BIOS used to be updated in MS-DOS. I am 41 years old,
> older than some people who seem to be experts on this and probably older than
> Liam.
I have 12 years and a lot more than 12 operating systems on
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:44:13 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
> [...] Any ideas?
I think A and B are Windows debris.
You probably just formatted C to get rid of Windows. You could have
partitioned the disk first.
I don't know that BIOS.
But start over from the beginning, make two partitions of equal s
UEFI Version AD2559B-ITX P1.40
CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550 @ 1.86GHz
Processor Speed: 1865MHz
I don’t use at Boot the „UEFI“, but USB- „Flash“ Disk…
( The Pl.40 Bios: https://www.asrock.com/support/cpu.asp?s=775&u=205 )
— after Booting: —>
FreeDos says:
„No drives assigned.
3 drives(s)
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:09:34 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
> The stick is not recognised when booting from HD with stick inserted.
> In this case, the Freedos startup screen (shall I say?), prints „3
> disks available - no disk assigned“.
Maybe you could report the name/version of the BIOS, and then s
> Am 14.04.2021 um 16:57 schrieb Tomas By :
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 16:25:37 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
>> [...] USB Stick on a FreeDOS [...] This is absolutely crucial to me,
>> otherwise how would I be able to get something out or in to the
>> computer??
>
> By dual-booting and reading the Fre
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 16:25:37 +0200, Thomas Desi wrote:
> [...] USB Stick on a FreeDOS [...] This is absolutely crucial to me,
> otherwise how would I be able to get something out or in to the
> computer??
By dual-booting and reading the Freedos FAT partition from Linux or
Windows...
> I just ins
DOS Emulator (which works on the Raspberry Pi) is indeed interesting.
I have similar questions, (also connected the recent question from Stephanos:
>"I want to boot to freeDOS using a CD ROM.
>Then I want to insert a memory stick into the computer and copy
> a file from the Windows HDD onto
>
> EMU2 lets you execute DOS programs as if they are native
> Linux/MacOS/OpenBSD/Raspbian programs. Is a little bit like WINE but for
> DOS, as it's emulates the BIOS and MS-DOS interrupts. EMU2 also works
> quite well as part of a development chain (Makefile etc) where some
> parts needs to be
Hi FreeDOS list,
On 14 Apr 2021, at 14:25, Eric Auer wrote:
I am sure there are a variety of other ways to do
what "nobody" has released yet ;-)
one DOS Emulator (which works on the Raspberry Pi, as well as on almost
all Unix like systems) that I can recommend for non graphical text based
p
Hi!
> The Raspberry Pi which is sadly a proprietary hardware
> platform, does nut support DOS. I thought it did by some miracle. It
> doesn't. Apparently, nobody has released a hypervisor for the Raspberry
> Pi 4 that will emulate an 80386 or earlier well enough to run FreeDOS or
> any DOS wit
I am fully aware that BIOS used to be updated in MS-DOS. I am 41 years
old, older than some people who seem to be experts on this and
probably older than Liam. Stefano, did you ever successfully update
your bios? Reality is, Windows 95 dos and Windows 98SE DOS is not
really dos per se and Windows M
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