Re: [Freesurfer] MNI coordinates of all the vertices of fsaverage

2012-06-20 Thread Yolanda Vives
Thank you Doug, I think that my question was not precise enough. I would like to know which function I can use to obtain a vector with the number of vertices and the corresponding MNI coordinates. Regards, Yolanda 2012/6/19 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu For fsaverage, the

[Freesurfer] mris_label2annot mislabeling

2012-06-20 Thread Arno Klein
hello! i have saved a couple of .label files and am trying to convert them to a .annot file with: mris_label2annot --h lh --s MMRR-21-1 --l lh.superiorfrontal.label --l lh.superiorparietal.label --ctab FreeSurferColorLUT.txt --a output the stdout is: ColorTable atlas_colortable.txt AnnotName

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Peter J. Molfese
We run things on an Xgrid cluster that is now a mixture of Macs running Snow Leopard (10.6.8) and Lion (10.7.x). We found the results given from asegstats2table and aparcstats2table are identical after running 100 subjects on both Mac OS X 10.7.4 and 10.6.8 with Freesurfer 5.1. I also ran a

[Freesurfer] Assigning cluster index

2012-06-20 Thread John Richey
Dear Freesurfer experts, I have a fairly simple question, but it is not immediately clear to me how to solve it. I have a statistical parameter map representing the results of a group-level analysis. After thresholding the map (p.05), several significant clusters remain, and I want to

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Peter thanks for the info. Feel free to post this on one of the *many* blogs howling for our blood :) I think that the effects in the paper reflect default floating point settings in gcc on 32-bit vs. 64-bit, although we haven't really investigated as it doesn't seem like a wise use of

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
p.s. I should add that we've known about this effect for a while (as the authors in the paper state), but haven't had the time to track it down. Since it's an avoidable source of variance (by controlling what computers you run the analysis on), it's lower on our list of priorities than other

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Michael Harms
I'm curious: For comparison to the results in that paper, has anyone quantified the variability that results when one runs the same FS version repeatedly on the same subject, but with a different random seed each time? That is, how much of the difference is related to math libraries vs.

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Nick might have, not sure. Are you volunteering Mike :) On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Michael Harms wrote: I'm curious: For comparison to the results in that paper, has anyone quantified the variability that results when one runs the same FS version repeatedly on the same subject, but with a

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread SHAHIN NASR
Please post it on PLoS One homepage. According to the policies of this journal, you are allowed to respond to each paper directly on the same page as the article. You don't need to submit it as a paper and won't go through a review process. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Peter J. Molfese

[Freesurfer] -inter error

2012-06-20 Thread Maria Gemzicka
Hi, I run -corr and -intra with no errors. -inter finishes without errors if does not use doregcvs. When I want to use cvs for registration, I get error: iterating done with candidates Active BCs = 91494 Total BCs = 548640 no-eqs = 245610 surf2vol(26656) malloc: *** mmap(size=295714816)

Re: [Freesurfer] -inter error

2012-06-20 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Maria - Do you at any point get the following warning? WARN: CVS template is not unavailable in the current version Thanks, a.y On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Maria Gemzicka wrote: Hi, I run -corr and -intra with no errors. -inter finishes without errors if does not use doregcvs.  When I

[Freesurfer] Editing Putamen Segmentation

2012-06-20 Thread Kristin Javaras
Dear all, For a number of my participants, Freesurfer's automated segmentation of the putamen appears to include brain matter that isn't putamen - this problem persists across 5-6 slices, on average. I was wondering what people would recommend - should I edit the aseg? Thank you in advance

Re: [Freesurfer] -inter error

2012-06-20 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Oops, that's a typo, meant is unavailable. In any case something like this should show up early in the logs. On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Bruce Fischl wrote: not unavailable On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Anastasia Yendiki wrote: Hi Maria - Do you at any point get the following warning? WARN: CVS

Re: [Freesurfer] Editing Putamen Segmentation

2012-06-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Kristin yes, if you care about putamen volume I guess you should. you can optimize the acquisition for this, or acquire multispectral (e.g. PD-weighted) data to help segment pallidum/putamen cheers Bruce On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Kristin Javaras wrote: Dear all, For a number of my

Re: [Freesurfer] mris_label2annot mislabeling

2012-06-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Arno, you need to create a custom color table (--ctab). doug On 06/20/2012 12:05 AM, Arno Klein wrote: hello! i have saved a couple of .label files and am trying to convert them to a .annot file with: mris_label2annot --h lh --s MMRR-21-1 --l lh.superiorfrontal.label --l

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis sequence

2012-06-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Jenny, Martin will be the best person to answer your question. Unfortunately, he is in China now. I think he's back next week. doug On 06/20/2012 01:37 AM, Jenny Liu wrote: Hello, I am attempting to use the Qdec Analysis for longitudinal data. Specifically, each subject has two

Re: [Freesurfer] MNI coordinates of all the vertices of fsaverage

2012-06-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Yolanda, you can run mris_convert lh.white lh.white.asc to produce a text file of the vertices and their coordinates. We also have a matlab function to read in surfaces. doug On 06/20/2012 02:44 AM, Yolanda Vives wrote: Thank you Doug, I think that my question was not precise enough. I

Re: [Freesurfer] Assigning cluster index

2012-06-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Use mri_surfcluster (or mri_volcluster if a volume). doug On 06/20/2012 10:41 AM, John Richey wrote: Dear Freesurfer experts, I have a fairly simple question, but it is not immediately clear to me how to solve it. I have a statistical parameter map representing the results of a

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Nick Schmansky
Peter, Thanks for this info. The Mac OS versions compared in the paper were 10.5 and 10.6 (Leopard and Snow Leopard). One of the major changes between these two versions was the switch from a 32b kernel to a 64b kernel (whereas Snow Leopard and Lion both use a 64b kernel). I havent been able

[Freesurfer] Qdec pre-smoothed

2012-06-20 Thread mdkrue...@uwalumni.com
Freesurfers- For pre-smoothing subject surfaces for qdec using: recon-all -s subjid -qcache Is it necessary to have all the variations of smoothing done (ie - fwhm 0,5,10,15,20,25) or is it possible to run with only a subsection of these? Best- Michael -- Michael D. Kruepke PhD - University

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Nick Schmansky
Mike, I have run such tests in the past (which showed about 2-3% variability in hippo volume due to randomness) and Doug has done similar tests, but admittedly running a large scale analysis and showing the results on a wiki page would be useful. Something like running our Buckner40 and/or

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Gabriele Fariello
Hi Bruce et al, I may be late to the discussion, but wanted to share some insights given that we've had some headaches trying to get identical results on presumptively identical systems for FreeSurfer and other tools, I wanted to add my two cents. Ultimately, of course, the systems were not 100%

[Freesurfer] Allen Brain Institute to Freesurfer Labels

2012-06-20 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
Does anyone have a mapping of the Allen Brain Institute labels to the freesurfer parcellations? Just the labels would be sufficient for these purposes. Best Regards, Donald McLaren = D.G. McLaren, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Research Fellow, GRECC, Bedford VA Research Fellow, Department of

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis sequence

2012-06-20 Thread mdkrue...@uwalumni.com
Perfect that should make things a bit easier on me, also according to this post http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg12406.html it is not possible to run multiple subjects with this set up (recon-all -s (subjectid) -qcache -fwhm 10, however this was from 2009, so not

Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec pre-smoothed

2012-06-20 Thread Knut J Bjuland
HI I believe that recon-all -s subjid -qcache will pre-cache smoothing from 0 through 25 fwhm. You can howevere select a small subjection of this by issuing recon-all -s subjid -qcache -fwhm desired smoothing. -measure surfmeas can follow -qcache, where surfmeas is one of: thickness, curv,

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis sequence

2012-06-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
nope, can't run multiple subjects On 06/20/2012 01:43 PM, mdkrue...@uwalumni.com wrote: Perfect that should make things a bit easier on me, also according to this post http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg12406.html it is not possible to run multiple subjects with

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis sequence

2012-06-20 Thread Kushal Kapse
for multiple subjects to run for -qcache, i wud suggest use this http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/UserContributions/Scripts/Two substitute -all with -qcache..you can also pick specific measure and fwhm if you dont want all others to be ran. hope this helps kk - Original

Re: [Freesurfer] Recent paper on FreeSurfer reliability

2012-06-20 Thread Gregory Kirk
bottom line is can we trust freesurfer cortical thickness results and a recent paper my group published seems to give very strong positive answer to the question. paper - cortical thinning in psychopathy, it's on the wiki publication list. All of the areas reported overlap with the areas that

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis sequence

2012-06-20 Thread mdkrue...@uwalumni.com
Kushal - This helps immensely! Just have to get this working now So my understanding is that after setting my subject dir in terminal, and creating a txt file with the list of my subject id numbers (list.txt) i would type into terminal foreach list.txt `cat list.txt` echo $list.txt recon-all -s

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis sequence

2012-06-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Are you using tcsh/csh as your shell? Also you type the foreach line and hit return. It will prompt you for commands, a separate one on each line, when you're done with the commands, type end and hit return foreach list.txt `cat list.txt` echo $list.txt recon-all -s $list.txt -qcache

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis sequence

2012-06-20 Thread Kushal Kapse
1- if u want fwhm=10mm just across thickness, include the flag -measure thickness, this saves lot of time, unless you prefer to do across all measures 2- this is how i made command line for my multiple subject -qcache for i in `cat list.txt`; do echo $i; recon-all -s $i -qcache -measure

[Freesurfer] qdec_glmfit problem

2012-06-20 Thread Nicolai Grüner-Hegge
Dear FreeSurfer, I am emailing you to ask for your help with the qdec_glmfit command (I got the command from the following link: http://www.freesurfer.net/fswiki/qdec_glmfit). My issue is that I do not know how to turn my raw data into the .dat file required by the command (you used

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec_glmfit problem

2012-06-20 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Nicolai, have you looked at the qdec tutorial on our wiki page? It has an example on how to create the table http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/QdecGroupAnalysis doug On 06/20/2012 03:49 PM, Nicolai Grüner-Hegge wrote: Dear FreeSurfer, I am emailing you to ask for your