[Freesurfer] Reference for clusterwise correction for multiple comparisons

2012-11-29 Thread Ed Gronenschild
Hi, Can you give me a reference to the method used for the clusterwise correction for multiple comparisons (CSD)? Is it Hagler et al, NeuroImage 2006, vol 33, 1093-1103? Cheers, Ed ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

[Freesurfer] correcting for discrete variables in Qdec

2012-11-29 Thread Berg, S.F. van den
Hi Freesurfer Experts, In my design i want to use a general linear model tot relate cognitive performance and cortical thickness. I want to control for age, total gray matter, gender and education. I have two discrete variables, including gender (0,1) and Education (1-7). The problem is

Re: [Freesurfer] p-value too small?

2012-11-29 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Doug, I deleted all old analyses manually, switched to 5.1, redid mkanalysis-sess, mkcontrast-sess, and selxavg3-sess, and still have zeros in the most significant voxels. If there was a bug fix in the meantime, could you please let me know where to obtain it? The version numbers are the

[Freesurfer] voxel number estimation kvlQuantifyPosteriorProbabilityImages

2012-11-29 Thread lorenzo pasquini
Dear freesurfer users, I have a question regarding the kvlQuantifyPosteriorProbabilityImages command to quantify hippocampal subfield volumes.  Are all voxels with a probability value bigger than 0 counted? Or is the command applying any threshold for the estimation? I have transformed the

[Freesurfer] Retinotopy Maps

2012-11-29 Thread Zhou, Wei
Dear freesurfers, I am doing retinotopy analysis using freesurfer 5 with http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis . I have four runs, two eccen and two polar. For each run I have 15 seconds fixation, 300 seconds stimuli and 15s fixation at the end (total 330s

Re: [Freesurfer] spline_smooth (please reply, no answer from email-list)

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Negar, I cannot reproduce this error. I'm not sure how to proceed, but here are three possibilities: 1. Is this a virtual machine? If so, do you have a real machine you can run it on? 2. You only have 2G of memory on your machine. Can you increase that or run it on a machine with more?

Re: [Freesurfer] mergecontrasts-sess group map

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
You'll have to run mri_vol2surf on each one separately to bring it into the fsaverage space, then mri_concat to stack all of the maps into one file. At that point you can compute a mean (also with mri_concat). Generally, one does not do group analysis on sig maps though. doug On 11/27/2012

Re: [Freesurfer] fieldsign-sess problem in retinotopy

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Can you send the full terminal output? doug On 11/27/2012 05:55 PM, Zhou, Wei wrote: Hi Doug, Thank you for reply. yes all 4 are in bold separately. I tried -run-wise with selxavg3-sess, but it failed with the following msg: Saving X matrix to

Re: [Freesurfer] p-value too small?

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Oh, I did not realize this was an fsfast issue, I thought you were using mri_glmfit. In that case, I'm not sure what could be causing the problem since the p-values are being computed by matlab. How many runs do you have? Is is a contrast that has a huge amount of power(eg, something vs

Re: [Freesurfer] local gyrificaton index

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Angela, Marie is the best one to answer the questions about gyrification, but I've tried below doug On 11/28/2012 11:30 AM, angela.fav...@unipd.it wrote: Hi all, I would need some information about the local gyrification index. I run the analyses and found which are the average indices

Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
If you want to do it that way (assuming group1=1, group2=2, etc), then the contrast would be -0.5 0.0 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 This looks a little odd because it ignores group2, but that is the way the math works out. I would probably use one group and use 1, 2, 3 as a third covariate doug On

Re: [Freesurfer] Reference for clusterwise correction for multiple comparisons

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
yes, reference hagler doug On 11/29/2012 04:52 AM, Ed Gronenschild wrote: Hi, Can you give me a reference to the method used for the clusterwise correction for multiple comparisons (CSD)? Is it Hagler et al, NeuroImage 2006, vol 33, 1093-1103? Cheers, Ed

Re: [Freesurfer] mergecontrasts-sess group map

2012-11-29 Thread Alexandra Tanner
Hi Doug, Thanks for the response! Just out of curiosity, what map is typically used for group analyses? Should I have used a map other than sig on the individual subject level as well? Thanks! Alex You'll have to run mri_vol2surf on each one separately to bring it into the fsaverage space,

Re: [Freesurfer] correcting for discrete variables in Qdec

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Stan, you cannot put discrete variables in the nuisance screen. I don't think you can do this analysis from qdec since it contains discrete variables with more than 2 levels. You'll need to use the command line stream, ie, create an FSDG file, run mris_preproc, and mri_glmfit. See the

Re: [Freesurfer] Retinotopy Maps

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Wei, the argument to -retinotopy should be the period of stimuluation (ie, how long it takes the wedge to go around 360 degrees), not the duration of your run. Also, it is not set up to handle fixation at the beginning or the end, so you might want to cut those frames out. doug On

Re: [Freesurfer] mergecontrasts-sess group map

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Usually the contrast effects size (ces) (in SPM this is the CON image, in FSL it is the COPE image). Univariate maps are usually passed up to the group level (the conjunction done with mergecontrasts is multivariate). doug On 11/29/2012 01:05 PM, Alexandra Tanner wrote: Hi Doug, Thanks for

Re: [Freesurfer] p-value too small?

2012-11-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Doug, hi Caspar, which matlab version are you using? We had some issues in the past that some matlab 2007 and 2009 statistics toolbox versions returned p values of 0, which obviously will not work as overlay, since those typically assume a volume of: -log10(p_value) and on matlab 2007b

Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-29 Thread Mahinda Yogarajah
Hi - thanks - I was thinking about doing it the other way (3 separate groups) because as well as looking to see whether there is a linear change in dependent measures (eg area) across groups I also want to see if there is a linear change in the slope of dependent measure against age across

Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Yes, better powered, and it uses all the data. Otherwise you throw out group 2. You can do the same thing with the other covariates (ie, scale group1's age by 1, scale group2's age by 3, etc) On 11/29/2012 02:58 PM, Mahinda Yogarajah wrote: Hi - thanks - I was thinking about doing it the

[Freesurfer] Problem with Xubuntu VM on Windows 7

2012-11-29 Thread Negar Memarian
Hi all, I've installd FreeSurfer through Xubuntu virtual machine on Windows 7, 64 bit according to the installation instructions the FreeSurfer Beginner's Guide. Unfortunately I'm facing an error in the recon-all process (as described below), which I think has to do with the VM, because the

Re: [Freesurfer] mergecontrasts-sess group map

2012-11-29 Thread Alexandra Tanner
Thanks for the clarification! So I will rerun mergecontrasts-sess using the ces image on my subjects and then run mri_vol2surf and mri_concat to get the group map. Thanks for your help! Best, Alex Usually the contrast effects size (ces) (in SPM this is the CON image, in FSL it is the COPE

Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-29 Thread Mahinda Yogarajah
Hi - sorry probably being slow - not sure i follow - treating them as one group (with appropriate covariate scale for level of endogenous factor/severity of disease) and using scaled age scores how would i look for an interaction between age and severity of disease across the group as both

Re: [Freesurfer] Retinotopy Maps

2012-11-29 Thread Zhou, Wei
Hi Doug, Thank you very much. I have thrown all the fixation sessions and run the analysis again. So in rtview how can i get the color scale bar which indicates the corresponding time points of polar or eccen? Is it still supported in free surfer 5? Best Wei --- Hi

Re: [Freesurfer] Reference for clusterwise correction for multiple comparisons

2012-11-29 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
For volumes, I usually cite: Forman, S.D., Cohen, J.D., Fitzgerald, M., Eddy, W.F., Mintun, M.A., Noll, D.C., 1995. Improved assessment of significant activation in functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI): use of a cluster-size threshold. Magn. Reson. Med. 33, 636–647. It's also referenced

Re: [Freesurfer] mergecontrasts-sess group map

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Alex, unfortunately, you cannot compute a conjunction with the CES. That's the problem with trying to do group-wise multi-variate analysis. Another thing you can do is to do a group analysis with each contrast separately, then do a conjunction of the group sig maps. doug On 11/29/2012

Re: [Freesurfer] Retinotopy Maps

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Wei, I don't think I understand your question. Can you elaborate? doug On 11/29/2012 04:06 PM, Zhou, Wei wrote: Hi Doug, Thank you very much. I have thrown all the fixation sessions and run the analysis again. So in rtview how can i get the color scale bar which indicates the

Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Oh, sorry, if you want an interaction, then you would keep the age covariate and add a covariate which is age*severity, then test that covariate doug On 11/29/2012 04:04 PM, Mahinda Yogarajah wrote: Hi - sorry probably being slow - not sure i follow - treating them as one group (with

Re: [Freesurfer] Retinotopy Maps

2012-11-29 Thread Zhou, Wei
Hi Doug, Thank you for your patient. I wanted to see how the polar angle correlates with the map and I expect a wheel bar which distinguish different polar angles. I typed: rtview --s SUBJ1 --lh --polar --real SUBJ01/bold/rtopy.self.lh/polar/real.nii.gz --imag

Re: [Freesurfer] Retinotopy Maps

2012-11-29 Thread Douglas N Greve
Those values are radians. Does that help? doug On 11/29/2012 06:09 PM, Zhou, Wei wrote: Hi Doug, Thank you for your patient. I wanted to see how the polar angle correlates with the map and I expect a wheel bar which distinguish different polar angles. I typed: rtview --s SUBJ1 --lh

Re: [Freesurfer] Retinotopy Maps

2012-11-29 Thread Zhou, Wei
I see. Yes. Thanks a lot. Best Wei Those values are radians. Does that help? doug On 11/29/2012 06:09 PM, Zhou, Wei wrote: Hi Doug, Thank you for your patient. I wanted to see how the polar angle correlates with the map and I expect a wheel bar which distinguish different polar angles.

Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: tracula problem:poor forceps major tract

2012-11-29 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Bryon - It does look like this individual and the tract atlas are not in good alignment. The one step that requires good alignment is for choosing an initial guess for the pathway. If the fmajor from all or most of the subjects that are included in the tract atlas goes through the

Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2012-11-29 Thread Hugh Pemberton
Excellent, will look into it. Cheers Nick. On 29 November 2012 04:58, Nick Schmansky ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Hugh, That fix is described in the Known Issues section of 5.1 on the Release Notes page: https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/ReleaseNotes look for the section

Re: [Freesurfer] TRACULA tract path failure

2012-11-29 Thread Arman Eshaghi
Dear Anastasia, Thanks for your response. I have sent a subject that the problem in forceps minor persists. What I have done so far was to re-run the pipeline with reinit=1, check the eigenvectors, increase control points, switch off brain anatomical mask in dmric. It made the tracts look better