Re: [FRIAM] FPI 210

2014-02-22 Thread Sarbajit Roy
I have an alternate take on this. Although I don't publicise this much, I'm presently the National Convenor of the India Against Corruption movement (the apolitical part of India's Occupy movement after it split in Nov 2012). We see definite evidence of global military-industrial-financial

[FRIAM] Cris Moore at SFI

2014-02-22 Thread Jochen Fromm
The homepage of Cris Moore at the SFI has a lot of interesting stuff, for example this page about the n-body problem http://tuvalu.santafe.edu/~moore/gallery.html Does anyone know him? Does he a have a Twitter or Google+ account? -J. Sent from my

[FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Owen Densmore
The WhatsApp/FaceBook deal was a surprise for me, I simply wasn't hip enough to even *know* about WhatsApp. Well, it turns out its a replacement for SMS. We folks in the US don't use SMS which originated in the cellular system early on as a way to get all of the third world able to message

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Owen Densmore
Here's a good clip on the deal: WhatsApp has garnered over 450 million monthly active users globally with 70% active on any given day, higher than the 62% engagement rate Facebook Inc (NASDAQ:FB http://www.valuewalk.com/stock-data/?stock_symbol=NASDAQ:FB) reported last quarter. It facilitates

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Jochen Fromm
Yes, it is a SMS replacement. It offers SMS functionality with iPhone bubble view, a lot of icons/smilies and easy photo and video exchange. It is very popular here in Europe, nearly everyone I see in the subway uses it. In the first year it is free of charge, in the following years about 1$.

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Roger Critchlow
There are, I believe, several larger messaging apps with strong followings outside the American market. See this article http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/technology/chinese-messaging-app-gains-ground-elsewhere.htmlabout WeChat from a year and a half ago. Is it just me, or has the future lost

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Christopher Koch
Sorry to barge in like this, I've been just a lurker on this list for years. Here I am writing something. WhatsApp is very popular in Germany/Europe. On my last trip over there I finally had to get it, too, just to communicate with friends and family. Facebook paid way too much money. The whole

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Owen Densmore
Don't both iPhone and Android have built in alternatives that just use the network? A brief search showed iPhone had one. SMS as a carrier service is so yesterday. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Christopher Koch christop...@reiswerk.dewrote: Sorry to barge in like this, I've been just a

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
So much technology for so much trivial and superficial purposes ... as similarly and amply portrayed (perhaps unintentionally) on Generation Like http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/generation-like/ (PBS Frontline 2) ... it's all about ads. Robert C On 2/22/14 1:33 PM, Owen Densmore

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Pamela McCorduck
The Internet was conceived and first implemented by a small group of government and university researchers: J. C. R. Licklider, Bob Kahn, Vint Cert, and several other pioneers. (So when I hear Silly Valley Libertarians go on and on, the best I can do is laugh.) My question to this august

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Russell Standish
It's all a big ho hum here too. I very rarely use SMS (maybe 1-2 messages per month, which are effectively free, and in any case comes out of a different budget than IP charges, which WhatsApp et al use), as its an inferior platform to email. WhatsApp, Viber, Line just seem to be more of the same

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: NTY: Buy Apple gadgets, use Google services, buy media from Amazon

2014-02-22 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 2/21/14 8:50 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: But what? They really want to know. If they don't know what they want, why do they want it? Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] WhatsApp ... Death of SMS?

2014-02-22 Thread Owen Densmore
In Italy, when visiting friends and the school we attend, SMS is used far more often than voice. Easily 5/day during class, 2 otherwise. On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote: It's all a big ho hum here too. I very rarely use SMS (maybe 1-2 messages per