Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2021-09-13 Thread Barry MacKichan
My email client keeps track of conversations, so if message A today is a reply to message B from a year ago, the top of my inbox shows message B with a disclosure triangle. Clicking it will show message B — the next part of the conversation. In Friam, almost every message gets responses, so the

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2021-09-13 Thread Gary Schiltz
What email client and platform are you using? On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:37 AM Barry MacKichan < barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote: > My email client keeps track of conversations, so if message A today is a > reply to message B from a year ago, the top of my inbox shows message B > with a discl

[FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Justice Amy Coney Barrett argues US Supreme Court isn't 'a bunch of partisan hacks' https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/mitch-mcconnell/2021/09/12/justice-amy-coney-barrett-supreme-court-decisions-arent-political/8310849002/ "'Judicial philosophies are not the same as political p

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: "'Judicial philosophies are not the same as political parties,' she said, noting that she identifies as an 'originalist' and citing fellow Justice Stephen Breyer as an example of the other main school of thought, 'pragmatism.'" Being an 'originalist' is the sort of thing that bible

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread thompnickson2
Glen, I wonder what ACB thinks "pragmatism" is. Holmes was a prime member of the Metaphysical Club with Peirce and James. Was he a Judicial Pragmatist? On Comey's account? I would love to know. Thing we have learned is that a besotted person is a besotted person first and last, no matter h

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
On 9/13/21 8:14 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Glen, I wonder what ACB thinks "pragmatism" is. Holmes was a prime member > of the Metaphysical Club with Peirce and James. Was he a Judicial > Pragmatist? On Comey's account? I would love to know. Thing we have > learned is that a besot

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Eric Charles
If one were being generous with her (not sure why we would, but "if"), then she is correct, in so much as modern "conservative" politics is only loosely related to the tradition of "originalist" jurisprudence. Modern "conservative" politics wants judges that agree with their agenda, not judges that

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
If one “read through” to a timeless intent, then how is originalism, original? It implies that deconstruction is unwelcome beyond some point. That it is essentially a religion. > On Sep 13, 2021, at 8:43 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > > On 9/13/21 8:14 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: >> Glen, I

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
IDK. It seems to me religious beliefs are simply a type of essentialism or maybe idealism. It's not that deconstruction (or intensive reduction) is no longer welcome, but that its further application produces nothing/tautology. The remaining pieces are atomic, reduction stops working. In this w

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Eric Charles
"Originalism", in this context, is a label for a particular tradition of textual interpretation, when faced with current legal challenges. Haggling over the exact label that would be appropriate isn't as useful as it seems. The tradition in question strives to determine the intent of the laws at th

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Another great tradition is naming a flawed thing to give it more legitimacy than it deserves. From: Friam On Behalf Of Eric Charles Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 9:30 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit "Originalism", in this conte

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Exactly. EricC's comment on correlations between the originalist-textualist axis and the liberal-conservative axis ignores the useful idiot, Tool, aspect. The question is one of whether or not there is such a thing as Ground Truth. When ACB makes some decision based on some occult perspective, o

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
If there is an artifact, it makes me wonder what the point of the artifact practitioner is.Law, medicine, this should all fall to AI. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 10:20 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bull

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
I can't find the majority opinion. This page implies there should be one: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/21a24.html The dissenting opinions are all HTML linked. Maybe I'm just incompetent. Yeah, there's no doubt that the provenance of the artifact

Re: [FRIAM] Can empirical discoveries be mathematical?

2021-09-13 Thread thompnickson2
Roger, If I weren’t immured with my income tax, I would engage you on this. I believe that metaphor -- aka “abduction”? – is the root of all evil and the root of all good. And then I wonder about the connection to the naming fallacy. The naming fallacy I take to be the idea that if two

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
My point is that a well referenced synthesis may just be evidence of a lack of creativity. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 10:49 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit I can't find the majority opinion. This

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Roger Critchlow
All the detached opinions are in one pdf document, the url's refer to pages within the pdf, just open any one of the (detached opinion) links and scroll to the beginning of the document. -- rec -- On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 1:49 PM uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > I can't find the majority opinion. This page im

[FRIAM] hot streaks

2021-09-13 Thread Roger Critchlow
Open access at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-25477-8 Across a range of creative domains, individual careers are characterized by hot streaks, which are bursts of high-impact works clustered together in close succession. Yet it remains unclear if there are any regularities underlying t

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
[sigh] Yeah, I thought that was Roberts, in his dissent, restating the majority opinion. I guess it's just not organized that way. What I want is each justified *assent*, so that I could try to tease out whether ACB is a Tool. On 9/13/21 10:59 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > All the detached opinio

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

2021-09-13 Thread Stephen Guerin
May be related to Barabasi's ideas of work (and many other phenomena) coming in discrete clumps in his 2010 book "Bursts" https://barabasi.com/book/bursts On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, 12:16 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > Open access at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-25477-8 > > Across a ran

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2021-09-13 Thread thompnickson2
Frank, Mis sorted my email by mistake. What else. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Sunday, September 12,

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2021-09-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
I hear I thought we were benchmarking predictions. From: Friam On Behalf Of thompnicks...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 12:00 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic Frank, Mis sorted my email by mistake. What else.

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Jon Zingale
Waa! Cry me a river A.I. lovers. Jury nullification is fine. - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://fr

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
So, with no quoted context and no threading, I interpret your analogy as SCOTUS majority : SB8 :: jury : aquitted and the majority on the SCOTUS believe the TX law is right and good, yet the precedent of Roe v Wade is wrongfully applied or too harsh. And that's why they rejected the emergency

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Jon Zingale
Sorry, why must I mean all of that? - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ a

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
Some sort of Eliza-like random response using some subset of the available keywords? 😊 From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 12:40 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit Sorry, why must I mean all of that? - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. ..

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2021-09-13 Thread thompnickson2
Well, perhaps we were. Pretty good, on the whole. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Yeah, Jon's reply looked a bit random. I really have no idea what he meant, just trying to give the benefit of the doubt and steelman it into something meaningful. On 9/13/21 12:48 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Some sort of Eliza-like random response using some subset of the available > keywords?

[FRIAM] 10,100 qbits

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
So … What If Aliens’ Quantum Computers Explain Dark Energy? https://www.wired.com/story/so-what-if-aliens-quantum-computers-explain-dark-energy/ "Recently a consistent cosmology with no dark energy has been proposed by a large number of respected cosmologists, like Joe Silk and Subir Sarkar, who

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Eric Charles
Typically a "shadow docket" denial usually only has a paragraph or two explaining why the case will not be heard. I'm not sure I've even seen one with a full majority opinion. It is not unusual to have a short dessent, but 4 dessents seems highly unusual. Of course, I'm an amature at this, so other

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Jon Zingale
Ah, but isn't a steelman one that aims to understand an argument well enough to put it in its best possible light? I'd say it was an off balance attempt at a strawman. - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 b

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Who would know? Your message was entirely absent any context. So, I did my best to make the best argument from the info I had. Then I asked you if that's what you meant. Feel free to correct it ... or not. On 9/13/21 3:06 PM, Jon Zingale wrote: > Ah, but isn't a steelman one that aims to underst

Re: [FRIAM] Can empirical discoveries be mathematical?

2021-09-13 Thread Roger Frye
A completely different example of mathematical metaphor is representation theory. The formula 3*3 + 4*4 = 5*5 can be represented as a right triangle with the sides touching the right angle having lengths of 3 and 4, and the hypotenuse having length 5. I like to think of one representation being a m

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread Jon Zingale
I'm sure someone might know. Should we wait to see? - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

2021-09-13 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Nah. I actually don't care. I was trying to be friendly. On 9/13/21 4:14 PM, Jon Zingale wrote: > I'm sure someone might know. Should we wait to see? -- ☤>$ uǝlƃ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bi

[FRIAM] Random Evolutions

2021-09-13 Thread Jon Zingale
Some on this forum were friends with Reuben. I spent a chunk of the afternoon reading some of his papers on random evolutions, a probabilistic technique for solving partial differential equations. There appear to be a number of interesting possibilities for connecting this work to the diffusion-lik