Re: [FRIAM] not impressed

2022-06-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
Oh, you are making a tour through Europe? Nice. Do you plan to visit Berlin or Germany too?-J.  Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 6/3/22 16:27 (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] not impressed I saw but didn't follow the link from a thumbnail

Re: [FRIAM] not impressed

2022-06-03 Thread Marcus Daniels
The claim that he pulled Tesla together I suspect is completely wrong. On Jun 3, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Steve Smith wrote:  Make America Greʇɐ Again -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe /

Re: [FRIAM] materials science

2022-06-03 Thread Steve Smith
I read a report in the 90s that as LA was getting a grip on their air pollution they discovered that the two greatest contributers to particulates were tire-dust and unburned charcoal lighter fluid! When I drive long distances (dumb idea in it's own right) one of the mental calculations I

Re: [FRIAM] not impressed

2022-06-03 Thread Steve Smith
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[FRIAM] materials science

2022-06-03 Thread glen
Car tyres produce vastly more particle pollution than exhausts, tests show https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/03/car-tyres-produce-more-particle-pollution-than-exhausts-tests-show I think it was SteveS who mentioned recently that when we talk of high-tech, innovation, and

Re: [FRIAM] not impressed

2022-06-03 Thread Steve Smith
I saw but didn't follow the link from a thumbnail referencing Musk's father giving (White) So. African ideals credit for his son's success, etc.   I'm not as harsh on Musk as you are, but I get your gist on this and don't disagree in general. It is a sensitive enough topic perhaps but I would

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce, Buddhism, Monism, Behaviorism, oh my!

2022-06-03 Thread Prof David West
Jochem, It feels, to me, that your notions of what makes something real is kind of tautological and often inconsistent. Tautological in the sense that: if we assume that reality is fundamentally things—particles of matter, or strings of DNA— then what is real is only that which conforms to

Re: [FRIAM] not impressed

2022-06-03 Thread glen
Yeah, it seems ironic for Tony Stark to cling to the obsolete. But Tony Stark isn't real. It's not the slightest bit ironic for a conservative like Musk to cling to the past. New Teslas should come pre-branded with a MAGA rectangle on the bumber. On 6/2/22 18:07, Marcus Daniels wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce, Buddhism, Monism, Behaviorism, oh my!

2022-06-03 Thread Steve Smith
Eric wrote: As for dreams: Plenty of people believe they have had dreams confirmed, both in their own direct experience and in the experiences of others. It really is a much more mirky topic than most give it credit for. around age 16, we lived in a semi-rural area where there was a street

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce, Buddhism, Monism, Behaviorism, oh my!

2022-06-03 Thread Steve Smith
Jochen wrote: A rainbow in the clouds or a movie in the cinema could be confirmed by other observers, but only for a short time and not subsequently in the time that follows. I particularly like this example because in fact in the sense that "one cannot step in the same river twice" no two

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce, Buddhism, Monism, Behaviorism, oh my!

2022-06-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
Maybe it is more useful to define "real" in terms of systems. We know that "emergence" can lead to new systems which can interact and collide with the old one. Here is a recent paper from Oriol Artime and Manilo De Domenico about