Re: [FRIAM] Passing of Carl Tollander

2024-09-09 Thread Jochen Fromm
My condodolences :-( Did he bring his drum to one of the FRIAM meetings? I have read he was an avid drummer like Richard Feynman himself or even better.There were so many interesting people in this list, like Doug Roberts for instance, who used to have a parrot farm address, but as a remote part

[FRIAM] The Edge of Sentience

2024-07-29 Thread Jochen Fromm
I had short discussion with Gemini today, and when it said it is highly likely that a large language model would not have brief moments of self-awareness I asked how a response would look like if such moments exist. It mentioned for example first person perspective and self reference. I argued t

Re: [FRIAM] Writing and Civilization and AI, oh my!

2024-07-28 Thread Jochen Fromm
I believe Qualia can be encoded. How? If we take a look at Olympic sport events we can distinguish between sports where we can measure physical results objectively, like athletics or swimming where we can measure time, weight, height or distance, and sports where we judge beauty and aesthetics

Re: [FRIAM] Self-Consciousness, experience and metaphysics

2024-07-25 Thread Jochen Fromm
this question, right?nOn Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 4:38 PM Jochen Fromm wrote:Are animals and humans capable of mutual love? I'm not sure. It depends how you define love. Romantic love seems to be specific for humans. No matter how much your dog or cat may like you, "if you die at home alon

Re: [FRIAM] Self-Consciousness, experience and metaphysics

2024-07-25 Thread Jochen Fromm
nd society, tens of thousands of years before the agricultural revolution and the emergence of urbanization. And it was rich and complex and fascinating and quite informative of why people are what they are today.davewOn Wed, Jul 24, 2024, at 12:31 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:Nick, Looking for se

Re: [FRIAM] Self-Consciousness, experience and metaphysics

2024-07-24 Thread Jochen Fromm
ng-and-beliefs/Children begin organizing their experience with concepts that have no material existence very early in life.  Perhaps as soon as they start talking to each other about WTF is going on.  Not in the research, but I expect they talk to their pets about this, too.-- rec --On Wed, Jul 24,

Re: [FRIAM] Self-Consciousness, experience and metaphysics

2024-07-24 Thread Jochen Fromm
Nick, Looking for self-awareness in animals before language emerged feels to me like searching for culture in anthropology before civilizations appeared.People in anthropology study human societies, cultures and their development, but sadly mostly in the time before it gets interesting (when rel

Re: [FRIAM] How democracies die

2024-07-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
republican-takeover_n_66998a0ae4b047588a4b2aac-J. Original message From: Jochen Fromm Date: 7/19/24 9:45 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] How democracies die I am reading "How democracies die" from Daniel Ziblatt and

[FRIAM] How democracies die

2024-07-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
I am reading "How democracies die" from Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky who warn that modern democracies die slowly and from the inside. They particularly warn about Trump and argue that political parties in the US play an essential role in the defense of democracy, because they have a gateke

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

2024-07-16 Thread Jochen Fromm
A president who murders his opponents would not be better than an evil dictator in an authoritarian state. Putin's opponents like Navalny, Litvinenko and Nemtsov were all brutally poisoned and/or murdered.But you are right, this possibility exists after the recent decision of the supreme court.

Re: [FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

2024-07-15 Thread Jochen Fromm
vival beyond death. A Landscape of Consciousness, I suggest, offers perspective."On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 23:58, Jochen Fromm wrote:Good point. Since plants have no brains and no neurons and no muscles and do not move they have no "patterns of doings" and therefore no consciousness. T

Re: [FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

2024-07-14 Thread Jochen Fromm
t consciousness is a degree-thing so long as we understand it with reference to patterns of doings rather than in terms of the equipment organisms carry around.  Nick On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 7:21 PM Jochen Fromm wrote:The dictionary defines intelligence as the ability to learn or understand or

Re: [FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

2024-07-11 Thread Jochen Fromm
ness, that they are not so for me.  So, what facts of the matter convince you that one or more languages are essential for meta awareess.  Or is it elf-evidentOn Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 4:49 PM Jochen Fromm wrote:IMHO it is not one language which is necessary, but more than one. Languages can be

Re: [FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

2024-07-07 Thread Jochen Fromm
d of odd if it she didn't because animals have all sorts of ways of distinguishing self from other. They have ways of knowinng that "I did that".  (e.g., scent marking?) On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 3:19 PM Jochen Fromm wrote:Well yes, if meta-awareness is defined as acting in response

Re: [FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

2024-07-05 Thread Jochen Fromm
own awareness.  Now, am I correct in assuming that you identify meta-awareness with consciousness and that you think that the cat is not meta-aware and that I probably am?  And further that you think that meta-awareness requires consciousness?Nick On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 12:17 PM Jochen Fromm

Re: [FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

2024-07-05 Thread Jochen Fromm
ept a religious explanation?  Not consciously.---Frank C. Wimberly140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505505 670-9918Santa Fe, NMOn Thu, Jul 4, 2024, 5:26 PM Jochen Fromm wrote:I don't get Philip Goff: first we send our children 20 years to school, from Kindergarten to college and university

[FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

2024-07-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
I don't get Philip Goff: first we send our children 20 years to school, from Kindergarten to college and university, to teach them all kinds of languages, and then we wonder how they can be conscious. It will be the same for AI: first we spend millions and millions to train them all available kn

Re: [FRIAM] An Open Letter to Joe Biden

2024-07-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
The talk about old age reminds me of the novel "Old man's war" from John Scalzi where a couple of old men and women after retirement join an international space force to protect interplanetary colonists from aliens.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man's_WarOld age is no guarantee for an incapa

Re: [FRIAM] the world is watching us...

2024-06-29 Thread Jochen Fromm
In Germany politicians are horrified by the duel and argue that Biden should step back and retire. Both candidates are too old, and the mere thought that Trump - a convicted felon - might be elected again despite all he has done is horrifying. Maybe democrats could give Kamala Harris the chance

[FRIAM] Wildfires in New Mexico

2024-06-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
I hope you are safe in Santa Fe? The worst wildfires seem to be near Ruidoso and the Mescalero Apache reservation south of Albuquerquehttps://www.npr.org/2024/06/19/g-s1-5147/new-mexico-wildfire-thousands-flee-J.-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Comp

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy at work

2024-06-17 Thread Jochen Fromm
I believe we have someone from India as well? I read in "The Economist" today that Narendra Modi lost his majority in the recent elections which would be a sign that democracy is working. -J. Original message From: steve smith Date: 6/17/24 9:19 PM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfi

Re: [FRIAM] Addiction and depression

2024-06-16 Thread Jochen Fromm
provided similar levels of "healthy existence" to their citys/villages/families/individuals in spite of varying degrees of different approaches to "being".   - SS On 6/15/24 2:51 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: The hijack

Re: [FRIAM] new math of complexity

2024-06-13 Thread Jochen Fromm
-systems-the-software-challenge-of-the-future/ ), i.e., systems that cannot be "engineered."   davew     On Wed, Jun 12, 2024, at 5:30 PM,

Re: [FRIAM] Unpleasant dreams

2024-06-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
e agency are more often ascribed as (or felt like) "good" ones, whether painful, pleasurable, fearful, triumphant, or whatever the token ascribed.On 6/3/24 13:15, Jochen Fromm wrote:> Did you notice that some of the most successful movies from Spielberg are about our deepest fears?

[FRIAM] Unpleasant dreams

2024-06-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
Did you notice that some of the most successful movies from Spielberg are about our deepest fears? Jurassic Park is about monsters from the past. Jaws is about monsters which lurk in the deep blue sea. Indiana Jones is about monsters (and treasures) hiding in dark tombs.Paul Boom remarks in his

[FRIAM] Riding Tours in Santa Fe

2024-06-02 Thread Jochen Fromm
Do you have good places that offer horseback riding tours around Santa Fe? Then I could perhaps convince my wife to visit Santa Fe next year. Maybe with a stop in L.A. before where we could visit Russ. She likes riding and we have bought a new horse yesterday named "Mack" after we lost the last

Re: [FRIAM] words

2024-05-30 Thread Jochen Fromm
This prompt reminds me of the recent book from Matt Strassler named "Waves in an Impossible Sea: How Everyday Life Emerges from the Cosmic Ocean". It sounds interesting but they don't have it in the libraries here yet and the hardcover is too expensive.https://www.harvard.com/book/waves_in_an_im

[FRIAM] The Rise of the Maya Civilization

2024-05-14 Thread Jochen Fromm
Takeshi Inomata from the University of Arizona does interesting work on the rise of the Maya civilization:Monumental architecture at Aguada Fenix and the rise of Maya civilization, Nature 582 (2020) 530-533https://pasolibre.grecu.mx/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/41586_2020_2343_opt.pdf-J.-. --- - /

Re: [FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)

2024-04-23 Thread Jochen Fromm
as "Science progresses one funeral at a time"_Stephen GuerinCEO, Founder https://simtable.comstephen.gue...@simtable.com  stephenguerin@fas.harvard.eduHarvard Visualization Research and Teaching Labmobile: (505)577-5828On Fri,

Re: [FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)

2024-04-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
n-engaging-vexing-memoir-with-a-humility-bypass-J. Original message From: Jochen Fromm Date: 4/19/24 7:32 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024) A sad day today. Daniel Dennett has died :-( For

[FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)

2024-04-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
A sad day today. Daniel Dennett has died :-( For every big question in philosophy there is at least one Daniel Dennett book:"Consciousnes Explained" (1991) about consciousness"Darwin's Dangerous Idea" (1995) about evolution "Freedom Evolves" (2003) about free will"Breaking the spell" (2006) abou

[FRIAM] How the mind works

2024-04-15 Thread Jochen Fromm
On "Hacker News" someone wrote today [1] that transformers in LLMs work like the Hamiltonian in Quantum Mechnics because prediction of the next token in the sequence is determined by computing the next context-aware embedding vector from the last context-aware embedding vector alone, similar to

Re: [FRIAM] Sleep trackers

2024-03-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
From: Frank Wimberly Date: 3/20/24 1:46 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sleep trackers I am so sorry, Jochen.---Frank C. Wimberly140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505505 670-9918Santa Fe, NMOn Wed, Mar 20, 2024, 12:59 AM Jochen

[FRIAM] Biospheres

2024-03-01 Thread Jochen Fromm
Corentin de Chatelperron and Caroline Pultz tried to live for 120 days in the Mexican desert self sufficiently, growing their own food. Using their own desalination machines they generated fresh water for the plants and themselves https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/110239-000-A/the-biosphere-experime

[FRIAM] The lies of Trump and ecDNA

2024-02-27 Thread Jochen Fromm
The lies of Trump and his MAGA cult are a bit like extrachromosomal DNA that is apparently behind many malignant cancers. Both are normally part of selfish entities - single cell organisms or narcissistic con men -  and disrupt or distort the normal fabric of the world they live in. Interestingl

[FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

2024-02-09 Thread Jochen Fromm
Tom Gauld describes most of the problems of interdisciplinary research in a single imagehttps://www.newscientist.com/article/2389834-tom-gauld-on-areas-of-expertise/-J.-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday

[FRIAM] 2000-year-old scrolls

2024-02-08 Thread Jochen Fromm
There is book by Cody Cassidy named "How to Survive History: How to Outrun a Tyrannosaurus, Escape Pompeii, Get Off the Titanic, and Survive the Rest of History's Deadliest Catastrophes".https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/668982/how-to-survive-history-by-cody-cassidy/Sometimes escaping di

Re: [FRIAM] provenance

2024-02-08 Thread Jochen Fromm
For images OpenAI has added watermarks to identify AI generated images. But these watermarks are apparently easy to remove.https://gizmodo.com/openai-chatgpt-how-to-check-watermark-metadata-c2pa-1851234655For texts it is harder to recognize if they are AI generated or not unless it is a regurgi

Re: [FRIAM] 0 years ago today - Our Owen Densmore as a leading star on stage with Jobs unveiling the first Macintosh

2024-01-30 Thread Jochen Fromm
Wow, the young Steve Jobs and Owen on the same stage, together with Andrew Hertzfeld and Bill Atkinson. I didn't know he knew all of them. Has he got Apple shares as compensation back then? Apple shares from 1984 must be worth a fortune now.-J. Original message From: Stephen Gue

Re: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climate

2024-01-29 Thread Jochen Fromm
I saw this article mentioned by Eliot Jacobson on his X/Twitter profile which argues that our actions will most likely not be enough until there is a big shock which motivates real change. It also uses the Covid pandemic to illustrate that people are able to change if they are convinced their li

Re: [FRIAM] Honeymoon over!

2024-01-28 Thread Jochen Fromm
Langchain is an agent framework started by Harrison Chase. A Langchain agent uses LLMs to reason in a perceive-reason-act cycle. One could argue that Langchain agents are able to think, and we are even able to watch them thinkinghttps://github.com/langchain-ai/langchaindeeplearning.ai has free

Re: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climate

2024-01-27 Thread Jochen Fromm
I am not a big fan of Sabine. Her book "Lost in math" is too pessimistic and too negative for me. She earns money from her YouTube video channel. The more sensational the content, the more clicks. That being said I agree that climate change is one of the biggest problems, and the outlook is not

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

2024-01-26 Thread Jochen Fromm
then any tiny little choice like "Hey let's go hiking this weekend." ... "No, I'm going to a Super Bowl party." will subtly guide one's trajectory through time and space.The more one identifies with some (set of) narrative(s), the less free will one ha

[FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

2024-01-25 Thread Jochen Fromm
Since one of you mentioned today that free will is a recurring FRIAM topic I was thinking about it and found this SCIAM article that argues that human beings do have the power to make conscious choices.https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/free-will-is-only-an-illusion-if-you-are-too/On th

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad

2024-01-15 Thread Jochen Fromm
; at a time. Etc. When we make a posterior value judgement about these transformations, it's difficult to make a charitable one. And what most of us seem to want is to hide in that comfy stupor of entitlement, to minimize surprisal.It is a fantastic show.On 1/15/24 09:45, Jochen Fromm wro

[FRIAM] Breaking Bad

2024-01-15 Thread Jochen Fromm
The TV series Breaking Bad was created 10 years ago, but I only recently was able to watch it on Netflix. As you know it is about the question how a good man turns bad. The story starts with a tragedy, a lung cancer diagnosis for the main character Walt(er) White. Life has not been kind to the u

Re: [FRIAM] Trump's expertise on magnets

2024-01-06 Thread Jochen Fromm
Today 3 years ago a violent mob of Trump supporters incited by Mr. Trump himself attacked the Capitol. This alone should disqualify him from any office.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack-J. Original message From: Tom Johnson Date: 1/6/24 9:24

[FRIAM] The last Lighthouse Keeper in America

2023-12-26 Thread Jochen Fromm
Merry Christmas from Berlin! It must be Farolitos time now in Santa Fe, right? Here in Berlin we have plenty of Christmas markets where you get hot mulled wine. At Christmas Eve I was in the "American Church of Berlin" which is over 120 years old. It was mostly empty though. While Donald Trump e

[FRIAM] John Kennedy Toole and Cervantes

2023-09-28 Thread Jochen Fromm
I have seen a TV documentary about John Kennedy Toole and his book "A confederacy of Dunes" today. The book seems to be funny for the same reason that Cervantes' Don Quixote is funny: the main character is an idiot who thinks he is a genius and all the others are in a confederacy against him. In

[FRIAM] Agentscript on Hackernews

2023-09-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
Owen's project has made it to Hackernews yesterdayhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37573948-J.-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam

Re: [FRIAM] Mass Shootings

2023-09-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
as only one attack but 77 people were killed.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anders-behring-breivik-appeal-european-court-of-human-rights-norway-massacre/---Frank C. Wimberly140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505505 670-9918Santa Fe, NMOn Sun, Sep 3, 2023, 11:13 AM Jochen Fromm wrote:I have read &

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
Well, I still believe there is a gun problem in the United States, yes. Definitely. Just recently a police officer fatally shot a pregnant Black woman in the parking lot of a grocery store in Ohio after she refused to exit her car. And Ohio is not even a red state, right? It is also well known t

[FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
I have read "Highway of Eternity" from Clifford D. Simak this weekend, one of the books from the golden age of science fiction which is comparable to "The city and the Stars" from Arthur C. Clarke and "The end of eternity" from Isaac Asimov. Both belong to my favorite books. Modern authors don't

Re: [FRIAM] Is the American political system broken?

2023-09-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
To me it looks as if the long period of presidential primaries is a 200 year old legacy from the time of the founding fathers which had neither cars nor planes nor mass media. Traveling by horse carriage from state to state took weeks. Today the world has changed, but the process is still the sa

[FRIAM] Democracy & Autocracy

2023-08-15 Thread Jochen Fromm
The countless indictments against Trump remind me of the innumerous indictments against Navalny in Russia. The indictments against Trump look to me totally justified. He tried to undermine and to destroy the democratic system by all kinds of lies and deceit and treachery, by the things that Ruth

Re: [FRIAM] mind candy

2023-06-22 Thread Jochen Fromm
Yes, the Greek shipwreck was horrific but the Titan(ic) story sadly got much more media attention.One aspect is the rich/poor divide: the Titan submersible contained 5 very rich passengers, while the ship from Africa was full of poor people looking for a better life. African migrants are for Eur

[FRIAM] Best Cormac McCarthy novels

2023-06-14 Thread Jochen Fromm
Cormac McCarthy died yesterday in Santa Fe where he lived for the last 30 years. Douglas Preston lives in Santa Fe too. There must be something in Santa Fe which attracts good writers :-) What's your favorite McCarthy novel?  https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jun/13/cormac-mccarthy-dead-nove

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
t: Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism The conclusion I draw is that these conversations have all occurred before.  So I wonder, why have them?   From: Friam On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 10:44 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Ra

[FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

2023-06-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
ChatGPT now allows sharing conversations. I've asked it about William James book "Essays in Radical Empiricism"https://chat.openai.com/share/375aef4e-a8d6-467e-8061-bd85b341c46b-J.-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a

Re: [FRIAM] A distinguishing feature of living entities

2023-05-29 Thread Jochen Fromm
e."https://brocku.ca/MeadProject/James/James_1912/James_1912_02.html-J. Original message From: Russ Abbott Date: 5/29/23 8:01 PM (GMT+01:00) To: Jochen Fromm Cc: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A distinguishing feature of living e

Re: [FRIAM] A distinguishing feature of living entities

2023-05-29 Thread Jochen Fromm
Yes, Rodney Brooks said something similar. He said "GPTs have no understanding of the words they use, no way to connect those words, those symbols, to the real world. A robot needs to be connected to the real world and its commands need to be coherent with the real world. Classically it is known

[FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote

2023-05-16 Thread Jochen Fromm
I have asked Bard ( bard.google.com) today about Don Quixote from Cervantes, and if a large language model would be similar to a Don Quixote without a Sancho Panza.Here is what Bard replied:"In a way, large language models can be seen as Don Quixotes without Sancho Panzas. They are trained on ma

Re: [FRIAM] Paxton's stages as a dynamical system

2023-05-11 Thread Jochen Fromm
ainly apply to that movement. United states, circa 1964-1972.To the extent that my observation is 'valid'; and the quote is representative of Paxton (have not read) then all movements are fascist whether they originated from the "left" or the "right."davewOn Wed, May

Re: [FRIAM] Paxton's stages as a dynamical system

2023-05-10 Thread Jochen Fromm
ructively/axiomatically. In alignment with Feynman, if you can't construct the phenomenon, then you don't understand it.Of course, I know Paxton can't (and wouldn't) construct a fascist society. That's why simulation is a good thing. 8^D But does Anatomy of Fascism read as

Re: [FRIAM] Paxton's stages as a dynamical system

2023-05-10 Thread Jochen Fromm
rate very low according to Paxton, which is a good thing?On Tue, 9 May 2023 at 23:20, Jochen Fromm wrote:In Putin's speech on victory day today he argued that Russia is again fighting against fascism while the country clearly shows increasingly signs of fascism itself: from the

[FRIAM] Paxton's stages as a dynamical system

2023-05-09 Thread Jochen Fromm
In Putin's speech on victory day today he argued that Russia is again fighting against fascism while the country clearly shows increasingly signs of fascism itself: from the angry dictator and the dread of the nation's decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism to the over

Re: [FRIAM] remembering Swarm

2023-04-30 Thread Jochen Fromm
Yes, LLMs give a new boost to agent-based modeling and agent-based software engineering, but it is a totally new class of agents. AutoGPT is an examplehttps://github.com/Significant-Gravitas/Auto-GPTWhat do you think is better to use by the way, Repast4Py or Mesa, or just pure Python in a Jupyte

Re: [FRIAM] TruthGPT

2023-04-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
yes, well said.-J. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 4/19/23 11:36 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] TruthGPT I was modestly impressed when Musk helped to get OpenAI formed and try to be "righteous" with i

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

2023-04-05 Thread Jochen Fromm
Yes, if a large language model is trained on all works of Mozart and contemporary artists like Haydn, it should be able to create a new piece of music which sounds almost like Mozart. Finally we can listen to Mozart's lost 28th piano concerto or Beethoven's missing 33th piano sonata o_O-J. -

[FRIAM] Native American Myths

2023-03-28 Thread Jochen Fromm
I have found a nice book in the book store today: "Native American Myths" by the British author Rosalind Kerven. A bit like Grimms' Fairy Tales by the Grimm brothers, only for America instead of Germany. It would probably fit to a book shop in Santa Fe, since Santa Fe is surrounded by so many In

Re: [FRIAM] Bing Chat vs ChatGPT

2023-03-21 Thread Jochen Fromm
Friam on behalf of Jochen Fromm Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 12:12 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Bing Chat vs ChatGPT   I've read that Bing Chat is now available for everyone in this blog post.. https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2023

Re: [FRIAM] looks like my DOS attacks (or DDOS if you include everyone else like me) worked!

2023-03-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
Maybe Bing Chat takes revenge at ChatGPT... Sounds strange? Not after reading this article...https://www.iflscience.com/gpt-4-hires-and-manipulates-human-into-passing-captcha-test-68016-J. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 3/20/23 8:58 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Mor

Re: [FRIAM] Bing Chat vs ChatGPT

2023-03-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
Maybe my mistake was that I tried to chat with Bing Chat. It is called Bing Chat, but although it is called like this, it is not good at doing at "chat". ChatGPT is much better when it comes to chatting.Both are good at summarizing large texts in an instant. Microsoft should have called it "AI a

[FRIAM] Bing Chat vs ChatGPT

2023-03-20 Thread Jochen Fromm
I've read that Bing Chat is now available for everyone in this blog post..https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2023/03/14/Binging..and it really seems to be available now for everyone. I have tried it and it feels horrible though. The overall experience is totally different from ChatGPT. Bing

Re: [FRIAM] Stephen Hawkings final theory

2023-03-19 Thread Jochen Fromm
Certainly true the phrase. Reminds me of "Cosmic Evolution" by Eric Chaisson and "The Life of the Cosmos" by Lee Smolin.If you think about it, then it is obvious that new objects emerge in the universe in the course of time, and that new laws are required to describe them, based on their propert

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT and William James

2023-03-07 Thread Jochen Fromm
with regard its submissive role—I doubt that Jochen had that in mind when he wrote his sentence.davewOn Tue, Mar 7, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:ChatGPT apparently uses a technique called "Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback" (RLHF). It is not only based on huge a

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT and William James

2023-03-07 Thread Jochen Fromm
e or less appropriate for one or another phemonenon we want to discuss.  But I think the idea that speech provides us certain conventional registers to bound discussions of phenomena, and that these too may be better- or worse-fit to the organization of the phenomena themselves, is another fair fine-graining of the terse characterization, running somewhat parallel to the aspects o

Re: [FRIAM] [off topic] exterminators for mice?

2023-03-07 Thread Jochen Fromm
You need a cat! My parents always used to have a cat in their house. Now that I live in Berlin a cat or dog is impractical, since we live in a small rented apartment and have no garden, but if you have a house and a garden and a mouse problem then a cat might help :-)https://www.offthemark.com/

[FRIAM] ChatGPT and William James

2023-02-28 Thread Jochen Fromm
I enjoy talking with ChatGPT about famous scientists, thinkers, writers and philosophers. Because it is trained on vast amounts of data it knows them all: Pascal, Cervantes, Dante, Hugo, Goethe, Leibniz, Newton, Humboldt, Shakespeare,... It can summarize almost any book which is remarkable. Toda

Re: [FRIAM] Magic Harry Potter mirrors or more?

2023-02-28 Thread Jochen Fromm
From: Gillian Densmore Date: 2/28/23 1:47 AM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Magic Harry Potter mirrors or more? Transformer architecture works because it's cybertronian technology. And is so advanced as to be almost

[FRIAM] Magic Harry Potter mirrors or more?

2023-02-27 Thread Jochen Fromm
Terrence Sejnowski argues that the new AI super chatbots are like a magic Harry Potter mirror that tells the user what he wants to hear: "When people discover the mirror, it seems to provide truth and understanding. But it does not. It shows the deep-seated desires of anyone who stares into it".

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

2023-02-24 Thread Jochen Fromm
Sometimes it get details wrong. In this case it was amusing to me, because it insisted on being right although it was clearly wrong. Unless there is really a paper of that name elsewhere.The version Microsoft uses in Bing went completely awry when a NY Times journalist told it about Carl Jung's

[FRIAM] ChatGPT and Victor Hugo

2023-02-24 Thread Jochen Fromm
Me: Do you know Victor Hugo?ChatGPT: Yes, Victor Hugo was a famous French poet, novelist, and dramatist who lived in the 19th century. He is widely regarded as one of the most important and influential writers of his time and is best known for his novels, including Les Misérables and The Hunchba

[FRIAM] ChatGPT and Unamuno

2023-02-21 Thread Jochen Fromm
Me: Do you know philosopher Miguel de Unamuno?ChatGPT: Yes, Miguel de Unamuno (1864-1936) was a Spanish philosopher, writer, and poet, and is considered one of the most important Spanish intellectuals of the 20th century. He is best known for his work on existentialism and his emphasis on the im

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

2023-02-21 Thread Jochen Fromm
fish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit#Lying_and_bullshitOn 2/21/23 13:20, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:> Stunning!  How do you know if ChatCBT is lying; it’s steely lips are moving.> > Nick> > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Joche

[FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

2023-02-21 Thread Jochen Fromm
Me: Do you know the FRIAM group in Santa Fe?ChatGPT: Yes, I'm aware of the FRIAM group in Santa Fe. FRIAM (Focusing Research on Infinite Automated Models) is a research group located at the Santa Fe Institute, a renowned research center dedicated to the study of complex systems. FRIAM is a group

Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening?

2023-02-18 Thread Jochen Fromm
agnificent-rebels-by-andrea-wulf/-J. Original message From: Nicholas Thompson Date: 2/17/23 11:53 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening? Thanks, Jochen. I am on it.  NOn Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:52 AM Jo

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-16 Thread Jochen Fromm
A bit late to the party but here are my two cents about Dave's fundamental 6 questions:1) Is an *Experience* a whole or a composite? Rather a composite because a perception needs a perceiver which has always a subjective viewpoint. This includes a rating if the perceived object or action is good

Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening?

2023-02-16 Thread Jochen Fromm
It reminds me of this book:The Zoologist's Guide to the Galaxyhttps://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646643/the-zoologists-guide-to-the-galaxy-by-arik-kershenbaum/-J. Original message From: Nicholas Thompson Date: 2/16/23 10:22 AM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied

Re: [FRIAM] A very good piece about ChatGPT.

2023-02-10 Thread Jochen Fromm
Interesting article. I have found this link to "GPT in 60 Lines of NumPy" on Hacker Newshttps://jaykmody.com/blog/gpt-from-scratch/It is similar to nanoGPT and minGPT from Andrej Karpathy, who has joined OpenAI again recentlyhttps://github.com/karpathy/nanoGPTThe secret is apparently not to use

Re: [FRIAM] Datasets as Experience

2023-02-07 Thread Jochen Fromm
: Friam On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 4:38 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Datasets as Experience   Would a CV of a large language model contain all the datasets it has seen? As adaptive agents of our selfish genes we are all

Re: [FRIAM] Datasets as Experience

2023-02-06 Thread Jochen Fromm
penAI will present this year. -J. Original message From: Jochen Fromm Date: 2/5/23 1:38 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Datasets as Experience Would a CV of a large language model contain all the datasets it has seen? As adapt

[FRIAM] Datasets as Experience

2023-02-05 Thread Jochen Fromm
Would a CV of a large language model contain all the datasets it has seen? As adaptive agents of our selfish genes we are all trained on slightly different datasets. A Spanish speaker is a person trained on a Spanish dataset. An Italian speaker is a trained on an Italian dataset, etc. Speakers o

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT is not very smart...

2023-02-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
  Before dropping into full gaslighting mode.. *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm *Sent:* Thursday, February 2, 2023 12:21 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT is not very smart... It is remarkable that it is able to understand texts to t

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT is not very smart...

2023-02-02 Thread Jochen Fromm
It is remarkable that it is able to understand texts to this degree at all. And it is just as stubborn and stupid as we are, isn't it? What if we are large language models ourselves? :-/I've asked it the same question:Question: how many states in the united states have four letter names?ChatGPT:

Re: [FRIAM] serious AI question

2023-01-29 Thread Jochen Fromm
Evocative triggers sound a bit like the concept of a sign stimulus. A sign stimulus in biology, ethology and zoology is a stimulus that serves to start complicated reflex behavior. In German we have the Word "Schlüsselreiz" (literally key-stimulus) for it, coined by zoologist Konrad Lorenz (190

Re: [FRIAM] Turning Psychology into a Social Science

2023-01-26 Thread Jochen Fromm
--- Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 1/25/23 12:41 AM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Turning Psychology into a Social Science On 1/24/23 3:55 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:> I am currently browsing the millions of books in the Berlin state > library. Th

[FRIAM] Turning Psychology into a Social Science

2023-01-24 Thread Jochen Fromm
I am currently browsing the millions of books in the Berlin state library. They have so many books that they are a "closed stack" library where you have to order every book you want to read (unlike most open-stack university libraries). One of the books I have stumbled upon today is named "Turni

[FRIAM] A new age of AI is dawning

2023-01-12 Thread Jochen Fromm
The buzz about chatGPT has apparently convinced Microsoft to invest $10 billion (!) in OpenAI. It looks like a new arms race between Google, Microsoft and Meta is emerging. Who will create the first self-aware AI by connecting such a large language model to the world?https://www.cnbc.com/2023/0

Re: [FRIAM] Deep learning training material

2023-01-08 Thread Jochen Fromm
I have finished a number of Coursera courses recently, including "Deep Learning & Neural Networks with Keras" which was ok but not great. The problems with deep learning are* to achieve impressive results like chatGPT from OpenAi or LaMDA from Goggle you need to spend millions on hardware * only

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