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What happens inside TSA security *stays* inside of TSA security... just like Vegas... something like a free-trade zone... free trade in various forms of insecurity, however. LINKS/PICS or it didn't happen... :) On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Douglas Roberts mailto:d...@parrot-farm.net>> w

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LINKS/PICS or it didn't happen... :) On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > In recognition of people's dislike of same-sex gropings, TSA is now > offering co-ed gropings as an additional, for-pay option. I bet you didn't > know that. > >

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In recognition of people's dislike of same-sex gropings, TSA is now offering co-ed gropings as an additional, for-pay option. I bet you didn't know that. On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > At least they got my good side. > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Steve Smith wrot

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At least they got my good side. On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: I got backscattered at Albq last Wednesday, is my picture on the internets yet?

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un...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On > Behalf Of *Pamela McCorduck > *Sent:* Saturday, December 11, 2010 8:19 AM > > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective > > > > Yes, it is. Oh, HO

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"Honey"!? Isn't that Bing Crosby talk? N From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 8:19 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Privacy

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Yes, it is. Oh, HONEY!! On Dec 10, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: I got backscattered at Albq last Wednesday, is my picture on the internets yet? --Doug "If you're away from Broadway, you're only camping out." Thomas E. Dewey ==

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IN the national security game, it works just the opposite... if you get a false positive, YOU are lunch to the machine... Drug tests. Polygraphs. Investigators with attitude. On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Roger Critchlow > wrote: I'd say that the original conspi

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At least they got my good side. On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > I got backscattered at Albq last Wednesday, is my picture on the > internets yet? > > > > > I see you wore the spike heels > and Tiara Guerin and Nick loaned you from > their collections... > > > --Doug > > O

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > I'd say that the original conspiracy theory was the suspicion that one was > being stalked by a group of very stealthy predators. Usually a false > positive, but one false negative and you were lunch. > > That's the most brilliant thing I'

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Yah... but Guerin and I spent a coupla hours hacking into the systems to get rid of the pics... that hard salami you tried to smuggle on was just disgusting! I got backscattered at Albq last Wednesday, is my picture on the internets yet? --Doug On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Steve Smith

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I got backscattered at Albq last Wednesday, is my picture on the internets yet? --Doug On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > I can just see it now... a whole horde of FRIAMers with their "freakin' > flags flyin'!" it's an appalling thought... even in line at TSA waitin for >

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...@redfish.com] On Behalf > Of Roger Critchlow > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:52 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective > > No, and I didn't remember the joke, but google tells me if I h

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I can just see it now... a whole horde of FRIAMers with their "freakin' flags flyin'!" it's an appalling thought... even in line at TSA waitin for their turn at the backscatters! Don't be too hard on the wackos. And don't resist becoming a wacko yourself. Let your freak flag fly, m

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itchlow Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:15 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective I'd say that the original conspiracy theory was the suspicion that one was being stalked by a group of very stealthy predators. Usua

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n...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On > Behalf Of *Roger Critchlow > *Sent:* Friday, December 10, 2010 2:15 PM > > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective > > > > I'd say th

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edfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:15 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective I'd say that the original conspiracy theory was the suspicion tha

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I'd say that the original conspiracy theory was the suspicion that one was being stalked by a group of very stealthy predators. Usually a false positive, but one false negative and you were lunch. -- rec -- On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:14 AM, glen wrote: > Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky wrote circa 10

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Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky wrote circa 10-12-08 10:29 AM: > It seems conclusive to me that most conspiracy theories can be attributed to > Gross Stupidity and the Secrecy imparts an air of reasoning where none > exists. ( We refuse to believe some affairs are complete and utter nonsense, > hence all

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to:vbur...@shaw.ca> -Original Message- *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *James Steiner *Sent:* December 7, 2010 8:21 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective It&

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*CANADA R2J 3R2* > > *(204) 2548321 Phone/Fax* > > *vbur...@shaw.ca* > > > > > > -Original Message- > *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On > Behalf Of *James Steiner > *Sent:* December 7, 2010 8:21 PM > *To

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---Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of James Steiner Sent: December 7, 2010 8:21 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective It's my belief that individual pri

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anitoba CANADA R2J 3R2 (204) 2548321 Phone/Fax <mailto:vbur...@shaw.ca> vbur...@shaw.ca -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of James Steiner Sent: December 7, 2010 8:21 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective

It's my belief that individual privacy is entirely NOT the same as government classification (as secret, top secret, etc) of information. Governments do NOT have a "right of privacy". Our government is supposed to be "by, of, and for" the people. It's use of secrecy is appropriate (and should be p

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> It's like the paparazzi for diplomats. Well done! -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

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Jochen Fromm wrote circa 10-12-07 01:41 PM: > Now if a state has "state secrets", is this fundamentally different from > privacy issues for > the individual (only for the state)? Should > a state in a democracy have any real secrets > at all? And if the state has the right to prevent invasion of pr

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What were the really egregious evils they did? I confess to not reading them all. -- Owen On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > Fixed that for you. Opinions are always welcomed. > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > In the age of social media and socia

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Fixed that for you. Opinions are always welcomed. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > In the age of social media and social networks > privacy has become an issue of intense debate. > Privacy means an individual has the right to be secure from unauthorized > disclosure of infor

[FRIAM] Privacy, Individual vs. Collective

In the age of social media and social networks privacy has become an issue of intense debate. Privacy means an individual has the right to be secure from unauthorized disclosure of information about oneself. Now if a state has "state secrets", is this fundamentally different from privacy issu