Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-09 Thread Phil Henshaw
TECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Henshaw Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:15 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies You guys all seem to be missing the difference between the value of reducing your solutio

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Kenneth Lloyd
ically, one problem at a time - they are solved all at once. Ken _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Henshaw Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:15 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism -

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Phil Henshaw
he problem some very different way. Phil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:17 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant ga

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Kenneth Lloyd
ay, September 08, 2008 9:17 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies Ken - Reductionism has its place in the analytical phase at equilibrium. Analysis is normally a study of integrable, often linear systems,

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Jack Leibowitz
eady is familiar with the book's discussion on formal analysis in art). Jack. - Original Message - From: Robert Cordingley To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Kenneth Lloyd
a, by Charles Seife. Ken _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:42 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Cc: Aku Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies Orlando-

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Robert Cordingley
ography of a Dangerous Idea, by Charles Seife.   Ken     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:42 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Cc: Aku Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young bu

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Steve Smith
Ken -   Reductionism has its place in the analytical phase at equilibrium.  Analysis is normally a study of integrable, often linear systems, but it can be accomplished on non-linear, feed-forward systems as well. Well said...  The synthesis phase puts information re: compl

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Steve Smith wrote: > I, myself, prefer (simple) reductionistic simplifications over (complex) > handwaving ones (see Occam's Razor) most of the time, but when the going gets > tough (or the systems get complex), reductionism *becomes* nothing more than > handwaving in my experience. That's a pe

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Kenneth Lloyd
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:42 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Cc: Aku Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies Orlando- You can find good references in

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-07 Thread Orlando Leibovitz
Thanks Steve. O Steve Smith wrote: Orlando- You can find good references in Wikipedia on this topic, including the Descartes references. Reductionism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Descartes held that non-human animals could be reductively explained as automata —

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-07 Thread Steve Smith
Orlando- You can find good references in Wikipedia on this topic, including the Descartes references. Reductionism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Descartes held that non-human animals could be reductively explained as automata — De homines 1662. Reductionism can either mean (a