Re: [FRIAM] Cloud computing

2009-10-19 Thread Saul Caganoff
Clouds are aimed at enterprise computing. As an example, a project I worked on recently was almost cancelled because the time and cost to purchase, install, and switch on the hardware exceeded the time and cost to code the software (3 months for a team of 5). Software development has become much mo

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud computing

2009-10-19 Thread Robert Holmes
Lack of wireless is Nature's way of telling me I should stop staring at my computer and go interact with other people and my environment. -- R On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Owen Densmore wrote: > >> I'd fire anyone having a company spreadsheet or document on their lapto

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud computing

2009-10-19 Thread Marcus Daniels
Owen Densmore wrote: I'd fire anyone having a company spreadsheet or document on their laptop and not in the cloud. Or company email on their computer (POP rather than IMAP). It is just too expensive and dangerous. LANL, for example, mandates full disk encryption on hard drives. Hard drives

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud computing

2009-10-18 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
I don't think the cloud technology is ultimately intended for the end users who are using it now. The disillusionment a few on the list are expressing likely results from that. I am definitely not "in the know" from am industry perspective, but from a consumer perspective I always thought the majo

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud computing

2009-10-18 Thread Owen Densmore
On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:51 PM, russell standish wrote: The whole cloud thing as presented in this article leaves me a bit cold. Few of the articles are written by folks using cloud computing, thus its just buzzword compliant hype. There really are some interesting cloud things happening, but

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud computing (russell standish)

2009-10-18 Thread Owen Densmore
Hi Pietro! Nice to see you on our list. We met in Italy at U. of Bologna a few years back. Welcome! -- Owen On Oct 18, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Pietro Terna wrote: This is my first intevention in this list; I enjoy very much reading it (I was at the Santa Fe Complex in July, hi Stephen .

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud computing (russell standish)

2009-10-18 Thread Pietro Terna
This is my first intevention in this list; I enjoy very much reading it (I was at the Santa Fe Complex in July, hi Stephen ...). My point of view is that what we need is also a good grid services: I've now a model which requires two hours to run on a standard quite fast pc; for each expe

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud computing

2009-10-17 Thread russell standish
The whole cloud thing as presented in this article leaves me a bit cold. I don't want software as a service, I want it as an application, running on my own computer with my own data. With open source, I can get the applications at the price I can afford, and adapt them if needed for my needs. If I

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud Computing?

2008-10-20 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Thus spake Owen Densmore circa 10/19/2008 06:09 PM: > So I was wondering whether or not any other Friamers are using a cloud > computing system? Be nice to share experiences. As our cluster ages, we're considering using EC2 instead. Particularly, we'd probably start with an image like: http://d