Re: [funsec] seen on the ANA website

On 9/1/07, security curmudgeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > : I guess this fits the MO for this ML, > : > : I was just on the ANA website, playing with their mileage program that > : can't cope with my name being spelled 4 different ways depending on the > : phase of the moon. Heaven help someo

Re: [funsec] China's Cyber Army is Preparing to March on America, Says Pentagon

On 9/7/07, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Given all the noise here (e.g. Pentagon, Whitehall, German > Chancellery, and previously: Titan Rain), there seems to be > quite a bit of saber rattling here. > > Just an FYI. > > Via The Tim

Re: [funsec] Disturbed anti-war protester can't find soldier, kills civilian with axe instead

Gosh and I thought guns were banned in Bos^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^ Nooo.. On 9/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Her son, the taxi driver, said she was mistaken. He also said that > Nigeria isn't as dangerous as most Americans assume from the news. > > However, anoth

Re: [funsec] Neal makes Little Green Footballs

> > >>It's a political website that focuses primarily on issues related to > the Middle East, in a broad sense. It has a clear bias, although I won't > but a label on it. > > LGF broke real news during the Israel-Hezbollah war last summer. It was > participants on that site the figured out a Reuter

Re: [funsec] Off Beat: U.S. Navy to Mask Swastika-Shaped Barracks

Back then political correctness was not such a mental condition. Architects saw a building using space efficiently, not a swastika. I wonder is that picture is reversed. I guess a quick look on google earth would show. On 9/27/07, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know, back when

Re: [funsec] Off Beat: U.S. Navy to Mask Swastika-Shaped Barracks

On 9/27/07, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's so cool about what's next to the building? > > My JPG has the angled view from Microsoft's Virtual Earth > I guess you have to be a football fan to recognize the arrangement of structures to look like a "we're number one" sign. Wel

Re: [funsec] Very scary.....

On 9/28/07, Andy Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 22:38 -0400, Richard M. Smith wrote: > > U.S. debt stood at about $5.6 trillion at the start of Bush's > > presidency. > > Stay tuned for a demonstration of the term "exponential function" > > Nothing like spending our way

Re: [funsec] Very scary.....

On 9/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of the worst government welfare programs around is allowing folks to > deduct their mortgage interest and property taxes from their federal tax > returns. Another bad program is excusing capital gain taxes on the first > $500K of pro

Re: [funsec] Very scary.....

On 9/28/07, Dave Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Brian Loe wrote: > > > Just sent my letter :) > > > > > > On 9/28/07, Alex Eckelberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fair tax > > > > > > www.fairtax.org > > > > > If Republicans are behind it,

Re: [funsec] Very scary.....

On 9/28/07, Dave Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Dennis Henderson wrote: > > > Well it took until Friday, but the award for the most uninformed comment > of > > the week has now been awarded to the person posting as himself. > > >

Re: [funsec] Very scary.....

I would be glad to discuss offtopic. This topic actually has a chance to have objective discourse and there is actually material facts. A libertarian and a conservative are actually the authors of this plan. None of congress has the balls to discuss it because it actually means less government in

Re: cc: Re: [funsec] too beautiful not to share

On 10/4/07, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Even if that was the case what do you have to say about this!?!?! > > That is the case. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I > > What about it? There wasn't a coalition that

Re: [funsec] too beautiful not to share

On 10/5/07, Dude VanWinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/5/07, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/5/07, Dude VanWinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > So, we sold Saddam "destructions"? What kind of destructions did we > sell him? > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I am a dumb ass,

Re: [funsec] Disturbing cultural trend alert!

On 10/6/07, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Richard M. Smith wrote: > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/38qsch > > Date sent: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:02:35 -0400 > From: Adam Jacob Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [funsec] Naughty Comcast

On 10/19/07, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Blue Boar: > > > I took that to mean they were injecting RST packets, ala the great > > Firewall of China. > > RST packets do not work that well to reduce bandwidth consumption > because the client immediately tries to establish a new con

Re: [funsec] Comcast censors the Bible

On 10/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > They are currently out of fashion. > > Yep, I just checked my junk email folder and there are only a few messages > with attached files containing malware. The situation has changed in the > last 6 to 12 months. I was amazed the last

Re: [funsec] Money talks....

Too bad everyone's so hell bent on ruining the bush administration, they won't even spend 5 minutes looking into all that money rolling out of china town into komrade hillary's coffer. Money talks Pshaw... So blinded by hate you can't see the real enemy in front of you. Don't forget to wipe

Re: [funsec] Money talks....

side, the sky's the limit. On 10/22/07, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Right. > > Hilary has been at fault for all of the lawlessness and > corruption in the past 6 years. > > Right. > >

Re: [funsec] Money talks....

ess who is president. On the other hand, you're trolling and you know it. The list gets a little quiet and you just can't resist. On 10/22/07, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > - -- "Dennis Hen

Re: [funsec] On topic: security related, but mostly makes me laugh, wryly

On 10/29/07, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/29/07, Remo Cornali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On that occasion he had been a keynote speaker at an event organised by > the > > Department of Homeland Security (DHS), alongside the FBI and Muslim > > organisations, to talk about ta

Re: [funsec] The Day The Routers Died

In another life in the 90's, my sales partner and I paid a call on the State of Kansas trying to sell them some consulting services. Almost all the. Network engineers used the term rooter You had to be there In Topeka Kansas with a Copenhagen dipping guys calling their Cisco gear rooter

Re: [funsec] The Day The Routers Died

On 11/3/07, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gives a whole new definition to the word rootkit. >From a musical perspective, the pronunciation or router as rooter actually made the Don McLean experience much better for me. The day, the "myoosic" died The day, the rooters died. Didnt ha

Re: [funsec] BBC: British nukes were protected by bike locks

On Nov 23, 2007 3:54 PM, Juha-Matti Laurio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BBC's Newsnight reports: > > "Newsnight has discovered that until the early days of the Blair > government the RAF's nuclear bombs were armed by turning a bicycle lock > key." > > And later: > "The Bomb is actually armed by in

Re: [funsec] I hope that the terrorists don't learn about this weapon.....

On Nov 23, 2007 6:28 PM, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqemKVTf_38 > > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public

Re: [funsec] fun stuff

Last I checked funsec was terrorists and turkey frying. Get you act together man... :) On 11/24/07, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought it was security related. > > I've made it a point, you should note, not to bite on any of the bait > that has been posted. I've always stated th

Re: [funsec] 1/2 OT - it is fun... let me at .49 to that OT total..

On Nov 30, 2007 4:11 PM, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 30, 2007 4:05 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:19:16 CST, Brian Loe said: > > > > > Aging beer is all the rage these days - kept correctly, you're > > > supposed to have a great experience drinking vi

Re: [funsec] 1/2 OT - it is fun... let me at .499 to that OT total..

On Dec 1, 2007 12:53 PM, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 30, 2007 9:12 PM, Dennis Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In my experience most skunky beer is caused by exposure to light. > > I knew light was the major issue but since we were dealing

Re: [funsec] Using hashes to prove predictions

On Dec 2, 2007 7:34 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And using a PS3 to predict the outcome of the 2008 US election. > > http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/Nostradamus/ > > (Of course, what this really shows is the chosen-collison attack against > MD5.) >

Re: [funsec] Pistol Packin' Feds

> > > > > Not to me. I'm not sure why the DHS would need ANY guns beyond their > > security guards, in fact. They don't enforce any laws - they simply > > play mother to the other cop agencies. > > I guess that depends on how you define "they" and "other cop agencies" > The Secret Service, Immigrat

Re: [funsec] TrendMicro goes Douchebag

On Jan 31, 2008 5:12 AM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not defending the patent and I don't remember everything from when > they talked about it to me, but I do believe it was important to the > patent that it operated as a proxy. Perhaps MIMESweeper didn't work as a > proxy? > I

Re: [funsec] Securing The Wrong Spaces: A Lesson

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Via techdirt.com. > > [snip] > > A brand new Japanese warship that apparently has the country's latest and > greatest radar system, was unable to spot a fishing boat in i

Re: [funsec] Windows-based cash machines 'easily hacked'

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Windows-based cash machines 'easily hacked'" > > This article basically makes two charges: ATMs aren't encrypting enough > data and the boxes they are stored in can be broken into. The former is > obviously an application

Re: [funsec] Windows-based cash machines 'easily hacked'

On 3/17/08, Andy Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 08:37 -0500, Dennis Henderson wrote: > > Thats why the PIN is encrypted. The translation to the real account is > > made at the clearing house. So its really not that big of a deal. > > Unle

Re: [funsec] Windows-based cash machines 'easily hacked'

All of your slightly informed ranting on ATMs is very amusing. Once you realize an ATM is not a corporate desktop, is not connected to the Internet, performs a very specific function, and lives on an isolated network, is very closely monitored and has law enforcement response in minutes, the conce

Re: [funsec] Windows-based cash machines 'easily hacked'

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Kitsune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Dennis Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "der Mouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Sent: Tuesday, March

Re: [funsec] Windows-based cash machines 'easily hacked'

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:40 AM, der Mouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you're simply letting your vendor make all the decisions about > > your ATM's then you're not really doing everything you can to make > > them as secure as they can be. > > If you're using Windows-based ATMs _at all_ you

Re: [funsec] Windows-based cash machines 'easily hacked'

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Kitsune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't mean to imply that I could reach (ping) ATMs that were not part > of the customer's network (ie STAR, MAC, etc). But to imply that the > physical location is irrelevent. If it is the customers machine, it is on > (one

Re: [funsec] Windows-based cash machines 'easily hacked'

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Rich Kulawiec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:40:36AM -0400, der Mouse wrote: > > There's just no excuse - IMO - for using the most insecure (in > > practice) operating system on the planet for an ATM...especially in the > > presence of all

Re: [funsec] Clinton's Office Says Her Passport Files Also Breached

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 5:05 PM, John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "haven't even bothered to notice your name", or what I've been saying > either, wherein lies the entire absurdity of this thread. > > My post meant to convey two things and two things alone: > > One, th

Re: [funsec] Radiation in a cat detected while going 70miles per hour?

On 3/26/08, coderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > "Turned out to be a cat with cancer that had undergone a radiological > treatment three days earlier," Giuliano said. > > people who have undergone a radioisotope / dye sc

Re: [funsec] TJX Assents to Audits Of Data-Security System

On 3/28/08, Rich Kulawiec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 09:54:00AM -0400, Richard M. Smith wrote: > > In a press release, TJX, of Framingham, Mass., said it disagreed with > the > > allegations in the FTC complaint, noting that prior to the breach, the > > company's data se

Re: [funsec] Ummm, wait a minute ...

On 4/28/08, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A recent survey revealed that 57 percent of Americans fear that their > account > passwords will be stolen when they bank online, and 38 percent do not > trust > online payment processing, banks and other ecomme

Re: [funsec] Who on funsec is in the "Main Core" database?

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:13 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2008 22:37:24 CDT, Gadi Evron said: > > > That's the "lovely" thing about living in Israel, the security services > > are too preoccupied with trying to prevent the next terrorist attack to > > remotely care about us sec

Re: [funsec] Who on funsec is in the "Main Core" database?

> > Warrants are issued by *judges*. If the judge is issuing rulings based on > how things are on TV rather than the law in his or her state and/or > Circuit, > you have *bigger* problems than wiretaps. > You may be onto something there Valdis my friend. :) __

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

imperializing popular culture).Pilsner is supposed to be hoppy, but of course, many folk are offended by the flavour of (most) hops, finding their sharp bitternessunpleasant.        Yep and Joe SixPack *hates* Bitter Beer... Gives you a bitter beer face   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLYxRWjHzwQ

Re: [funsec] Funsec Off-Topic Contest

Cal State A-wards...   On 11/7/06, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So the Oakland A's are going to move to Fremont, CA. I don't supposethey'll call themselves an Oakland team, but "Fremont A's" doesn't work either.South Bay A's?Silicon Valley A's?Bay Area A's?Not San Francisco A's?Larry Se

Re: [funsec] Image spam hits a new level...

On 11/18/06, Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Haven't seen anything like this until this weekend. If it's old news, sorry to clutter your inboxes, but this is getting extreme. Jeff ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://li

Re: [funsec] Biggest Turkey of 2006: The NFL - Can't See TV

On 11/23/06, William Lefkovics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh no, I do enjoy American football. And Canadian football. I just don't find it all that important. I'm sure for Fergie it isn't the game either. It's the enjoyment of the family yelling at the TV when something right or wrong happen

Re: [funsec] bankone/chase non-scam

On 11/28/06, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, I was talking about Paul's messages (from Chase) Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry%5Fseltzer/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Mes

Re: [funsec] DoD Report to Detail Dangers of Foreign Software

On 11/27/06, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This sounds kind of hostile -- while I'm sure there is some small threat, I'm not so sure about the paranoid nature or insistence of this "report"... Vis ComputerWorld. [snip] A U.S. Department of De

Re: [funsec] Posturing: A Necessary Evil

On 12/1/06, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As anyone considered the fact that, given the scare regarding ATM PIN compromise potential, that the U.S. Government warning of foreign attacks against financial resources is somewhat dubious? I mean, g

Re: [funsec] FW: Windows Live and Privacy

On 12/4/06, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> In the US (at least) I am free to take a photograph from a public place >>> of virtually anything (so long as I'm not peeping through your windows). News to me. Over the past few years, I've been yelled at for taking a photo of a

Re: [funsec] 'Bad Guys are Winning' Despite Fight Against Spam

On 12/10/06, Nick FitzGerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dude VanWinkle wrote: > Spammers shouldn't be killed, we should just get rid of botnets, or Like that's going to happen any time this decade... > block port 25 outbound from the consumer ISP's unless the user > requests it. You don't un

Re: [funsec] 'Bad Guys are Winning' Despite Fight Against Spam

It might be that there is no solution for entirely dealing with spam, and I can think of a possible proof of this. But I don't need a total solution, I just need something that throttles it back considerably. Well sometimes I tire of the folks that just sit back and poopoo any effort or idea

Re: [funsec] As deadline nears, banks toughen Net protections

Sorry for the rambling rant, but I bubbled over with negative emotion and dont have much time to write.. A federal regulation mandating tougher online financial security measures will take effect Monday. To be correct, its actually guidance, not regulation, published by the FFIEC. Its does ha

Re: [funsec] Re: Postcard.exe malware spammed with Happy New Year messages

Just capture .exe files and who cares... They have no business in corporate email. :) On 12/30/06, Juha-Matti Laurio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bad news. New variants are out and the AV coverage for these is remarkable poor. The new variants use several different subject lines and attachment

Re: [funsec] Microsoft Collaborated with the NSA on Vista Security?

On 1/9/07, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Right. Whatever. :-) The SHA1 on your message is the ultimate irony for ye ferg... :) ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.

Re: [funsec] Microsoft Collaborated with the NSA on Vista Security?

On 1/9/07, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- "Dennis Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote" >On 1/9/07, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1

Re: [funsec] Report: Terrorists 'Use Google Maps to Hit UK Troops'

- -- "Fergie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not sure what to make of this 'report'... Terrorists attacking British bases in Basra are using aerial footage displayed by the Google Earth internet tool to pinpoint their attacks, say Army intelligence sources. Documents seized during raids on the ho

Re: [funsec] class-president-hacks-school-grades

On 1/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yikes! I think those charges are a little harsh for a teenager changing his grades. And expulsion at that! Yikes! That's basically throwing this kid's life down the toilet for a foolish mistake. But, I'm sure that the courts won't des

Re: [funsec] SWIFT: A Security Researcher Gets Offered The Big Score

On 2/10/07, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Via InformationWeek. [snip] The stakes can get pretty high in the hacker economy. A few years ago, a security researcher living overseas was contacted by a man with an intriguing offer: The researcher

Re: [funsec] Windows-Based ATM Machine Hacked, Gets 'Painted'

On 2/26/07, Peter Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fergie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Although we wouldn't expect to find the latest release of Photoshop on your > neighborhood ATM, it's not so far fetched to think that Paint would be left > on a Windows-based ATM. Nomura Securities ATM

Re: Beer [was Re: R: [funsec] "Safest ever" passport is not fit for purpose]

On 3/8/07, der Mouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [I]n England [...] pretty much every pub offers good beer, and >> served at the correct temperature, too. I forget where I saw this "It is said that the English like to drink their beer warm. This is not true. They drink the

Re: [funsec] Delicious Irony of the Day: BillOReilly.com DDoS'd

On 3/9/07, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Props to Alex Eckelberry and the crew at Sunbelt for noticing this first, some background here at InformationWeek. [snip] The official Web site for Bill O'Reilly was taken down by a repeated denial-of-s

Re: [funsec] couldn't resist sharing

On 4/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:24:07 BST, David Harley said: > Hell, we can't even win Eurovision any more. What chance do we have with an > armed conflict? Come to think of it... No, not going there. Making Eurovision an armed conflict *would*

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

I have, however, personally seen what happens when a canister of compressed oxygen gets set on fire, and it's not pretty (though it is pretty impressive). The truck carrying the cylinders was completely destroyed (the frame itself was melted, among other things, and the cylinders themselves were

Re: [funsec] Proper y'all usage

On 5/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's my personal favorite: "Witchyaditchya" Used in a sentence: "So, I see y'all brought yer wife witchyaditchya." translated: "So, you brought your wife along." litteral translation: Witchyaditchya = With you did you? I find

Re: [funsec] Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier

On 5/17/07, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "It's our brains again. We need to 'do something,' even if that something doesn't make sense; even if it is ineffective. And we need to do something directly related to the details of the actual event."

Re: [funsec] Quote of the Day: Bruce Schneier

On 5/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:42:02 CDT, Dennis Henderson said: > These(terror attacks) are carefully planned and the perpetrators may lay low > for years waiting for the right time to strike. I think he mistakely > compares &qu

Re: [funsec] Off Beat: U.S. Government Trying to Seize New MichaelMoore Film

On 5/21/07, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok, I may not agree with anything that the cretin Michael Moore says, does, or makes BUT, I'll whole heartily support his right to express his opinions and to make any movie that he

Re: [funsec] Off Beat: U.S. Government Trying to Seize New MichaelMoore Film

On 5/21/07, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/21/07, Alex Eckelberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can't go to Cuba at all if you're American, even through a third > country (Canada et al). There are some exceptions, for "educational > tours" and that sort of thing. > > Alex Apparen

Re: [funsec] New Zealand: IP Upgrade for Power Grid

On 5/23/07, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Let's hope that it is not connected to the Internet in any way, shape, or form -- for the sake of New Zealand's infrastructure security. Isnt it kind of risky trusting their network to a vendor's MP

Re: [funsec] The Windows Update DDoS attack

On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This Windows Update problem showed up my computer about a month ago. A few minutes after a reboot, I saw a svchost process suddenly start consuming almost 100% of the CPU. I couldn't do anything on the system for about 20 minutes. CTRL

Re: [funsec] DHS Wants Cell Phones to Detect Chemical, Radioactive Material

On 6/5/07, Michal Zalewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Brian Loe wrote: > I think I get your point on false positives for chemicals - but > radiation? Smoke sensors, antistatic brushes, certain watches, radiotherapy patients on the street (they already set off airport alarms

Re: [funsec] DHS Wants Cell Phones to Detect Chemical, Radioactive Material

On 6/6/07, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/6/07, Drsolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, for new cell phone sales. IIRC, has been for a year or two now. > > This has been discussed off and on for its security and privacy > > implications for a while now. > > > > > Huh. > > > > >

Re: [funsec] Strat tower (was: U.S. general laments Google Earth capability)

On 6/25/07, Nick FitzGerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Young, Keith wrote: > Live has it: > > http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=36.147429~-115.154451&style=h&; > lvl=18&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5080296&encType=1 Wouldn't load for me -- perhaps Live doesn't like Firefox? No, sure

Re: [funsec] NZ: Banks Demand a Look Inside Customer PCs in Fraud Cases

When will the customer have to have at least some responsibility for their action/inactions? I guess the person who invents the perfectly secure internet transaction will be the richest person on the planet. Imagine being able to conduct a secure pc based internet transaction with every kind of t

Re: [off-list] Re: [funsec] NZ: Banks Demand a Look Inside Customer PCs in Fraud Cases

On 6/27/07, Rich Kulawiec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Three comments: 1. I wonder who they'll be willing to send out that's qualified to inspect my OpenBSD system for security issues. 2. I'll be happy to allow them to check out the inside of my systems provided they're willing to let me check

Re: [off-list] Re: [funsec] NZ: Banks Demand a Look Inside Customer PCs in Fraud Cases

On 6/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:01:33 CDT, Dennis Henderson said: > Can anyone explain how getting pnwed by a keylogger or a trojan is not their > fault? Do we have to argue what "fault" is? I hope not, becuase that could

Re: [funsec] NZ: Banks Demand a Look Inside Customer PCs in Fraud Cases

On 6/28/07, Bill Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jim Murray([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 09:57:51AM +0100: > Dennis Henderson wrote: > > When will the customer have to have at least some responsibility for > > their action/inactions? > > > > I

Re: [off-list] Re: [funsec] NZ: Banks Demand a Look Inside Customer PC s in Fraud Cases

On 6/28/07, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- "Dennis Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Goes right back the the responsibility of doing online banking. People who >are clueless about Internet risks

Re: [off-list] Re: [funsec] NZ: Banks Demand a Look Inside Customer PCs in Fraud Cases

On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:44:32 CDT, Dennis Henderson said: > So tell me what steps do you take to make sure your online banking > experience is a safe one? If you don't do online banking, then please don't > comme

Re: [funsec] What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed the Declaration of Independence ?

On 7/4/07, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Happy Birthday, America. Via Defense Tech. [snip] Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five were captured by the British as traitors, a

Re: [funsec] What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed the Declarationof Independence ?

On 7/4/07, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- "Dude VanWinkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And a big hearty thanks to you for not forgetting to send us some >lies when you got bored there Fergie, or are you just trying to keep >us on ou

Re: [funsec] What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed the Declarationof Independence ?

On 7/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:14:43 CDT, Brian Loe said: > Next you'll tell me Lincoln didn't actually free all of the slaves! Let's look at the actual text, shall we? "That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eigh

Re: [funsec] What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed the Declaration of Independence ?

]> wrote: On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:09:59 CDT, Dennis Henderson said: > Such two dimensional thinkin big V > Thus pressed, Lincoln staked a large part of his 1864 > presidential campaign on a constitutional amendment to abolish slavery > uniformly throughout

Re: [funsec] Louisiana Bankers Set to Go Wireless

On 7/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 07:48:38 EDT, Larry Seltzer said: > Following up on my own point, Wikipedia says (and we all know everything > in Wikipedia has been vetted by the best experts and has to be true) > that microwave transmission is point-

Re: [funsec] What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed the DeclarationofIndependence ?

"Return" him to Syria, when he was a Ca*N*adiAn citi*Z*en, and came from Canada, and we knew *I*t at the time? Ok Valdis just said Nazi.. Thread over :) ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

[funsec] OT, well food security... (Now thats a stiff sentence )

Ex Chinese Food and Drug Chief executed. More here. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/09/AR2007070900689_pf.html By the way, found on Drudge Report; hardly a parody site enrages lefties and righties alike... :) ___ Fun

Re: [funsec] A Call for Internet War Against Islamic Terrorism

On 7/23/07, Technocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/21/07, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868512/posts > > *A Call for Internet War Against Islamic Terrorism* > July 19 2007

Re: [funsec] How much security does $1 trillion buy?

On 8/1/07, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/01/analysis_says_war_could_cost_1_trillion/ > > > > Analysis says war could cost $1 trillion > > Budget office sees effect on taxpayers for decade > > By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff | Aug

Re: [funsec] Are the bridges in your neighborhood safe?

On 8/2/07, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I bet this DOT bridge database that CNN talks about is getting a real > work-out today…… > > > > Here's the URL for the search page: > > > > http://nationalbridges.com/ > The video from a security camera caught the collapse.. It was

Re: [funsec] Bravery

I wonder if Dr. Neal can tell if thats a photoshop.. It friggin hilarious tho. On 8/2/07, Alex Eckelberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.thoughtmechanics.com/2007/08/02/a-man-who-stares-death-in-the-face-and-smiles/ > > ___ > Fun and Misc

Re: [funsec] Stiff Fines Prompt Amex to Bolster Money-Laundering Vigilance

On 8/7/07, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Via eWeek. > > [snip] > > American Express Bank International learned an expensive lesson when it > agreed on Aug. 6 to pay a stiff penalty to the federal government after > admitting that it

Re: [funsec] Access control vs BCP?

On 8/21/07, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Coincidentally, I'm listening to the ISC2 e-symposium on id management/access > control ...) > > SECURITY MEASURES DELAY FIREFIGHTERS AT CAR DEALERSHIP > BLAZE > > Fire crews trying to battle a blaze at a Winnipe

Re: [funsec] A fun security experiment with the TSA

On 8/28/07, Brian Loe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pre-2001 my laptop bag was searched every time I went through security. > > On 8/28/07, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you are correct. My bags with computer equipment seem to be > > searched much more often than bags wi

Re: [funsec] wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician?

On 8/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree that guns are tools. One use of this tool which I hear about all > the time is that private gun ownership helps reduce crime. I'm just > asking how many more guns we need here in the States in order to cut the > U.S. murder to t