Arthur,
Change that to evidence
and commonsense suggest that “machines taking over requiring us to sit with
folded hands is fantasy”. Where is your evidence that something different may
occur? Of course you can conjecture, But then you can conjecture about God.
Where did I say
“orga
I'm afraid Karen that common sense and forethought is not
one of the elements of the "Free Market." In fact as has been
said before many times, the "Free Market" is neither good nor bad, moral or
immoral but it is most definitely free and without serious planning from any
authoritarian so
> What a lovely post Keith,
For me it was the Brahm's Requiem and the first time
singing with theorchestra. We had plenty of first class choruses
in Tulsa but never had Iexperienced the orchestra with the descending three
part women's chords withthe resounding D pedal point. It was an
i
I've heard that one of
the reasons the Dept of Ag is so eager to make the public feel safe is that it
administers the meat used in school lunches. You can choose not to eat at
McDeath's as Chris says, but parents get pretty upset when they think their
kids are unnecessarily exposed, and ham
What a lovely post Keith,
For me it was the Brahm's Requiem and the first time singing with the
orchestra. We had plenty of first class choruses in Tulsa but never had I
experienced the orchestra with the descending three part women's chords with
the resounding D pedal point. It was an importan
Harry Pollard downplayed:
> The danger was less than minimal. Even now, no connection has
> been established between Mad Cow and any human problems.
And the rise in nv-CJD is pure coincidence, of course, and DDT is
perfectly safe, etc. yada yada...
> The shoppers thought the cheap beef was a goo
Harry Pollard wrote:
> You said:
>
> " The USA "escaped fighting Hitler" for 3 years after he invaded
> Poland, even waited for Hitler to declare war to them, and only
> entered troops after watching Russia sacrifice almost 20 million
> of its people, when it started to look like Russia could win t
Interesting stuff, Ray. When I was teenager
and young adult, I called Ocean Falls, a pulp and paper town on the Canadian
west coast, home. It was a company town that had about 4,000 people
at the time. Everybody that lived in the town depended on the mill in some
way. The company did a
Mike Hollinshead wrote a book about this. His
contention was that the English knitting factories were actually built too
small for normal sized people and so they hired children to work within the
machines because of their size. Those were the Arkwright
mills. It was Gregg who was a Qu
Wow.
One way to keep wage pressures low.
arthur
==
In what the White House is billing as an important speech on immigration
policy, President Bush tomorrow will unveil a plan that would allow
immigrants to enter the United States if they have jobs. The proposal also
is expected to
> and what are the roots of your hate Chris??
I don't hate. I dislike imperialism and colonialism.
Chris
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Arthur Cordell wrote:
> Now, now. Swiss law was such that good people really couldn't help the
> refugees. In fact Swiss law was aimed against granting asylum.
If that was true, then I wonder why...
> During World War II, Switzerland officially took in about 300,000 refugees
> but it turned awa
Keith Hudson said:
I hope you both realise that the young boy and girl
factory workers (that is, under 10 or 11) were a very small minority all the
way through the 19th century? Most of the children were at school -- and at
fee-paying school, too! The poorest went to charity
schools
Harry Pollard wrote:
> Free trade merely means allowing goods to enter a country without
> hindrance from tariffs, quotas, and anti-dumping duties.
That may be your romantic perception (or distortion) of what Free Trade
means, but the reality is that Free Trade means "trade that is free of
hindran
Now, now. Swiss law was such that good people really couldn't help the
refugees. In fact Swiss law was aimed against granting asylum. (OK to
trade with the Germans, however)
Read on. Interesting. Schizophrenic, perhaps??
==
New Swiss Law Pardons Those Who Aid
Harry,
When you teach, is it work? Or play? Or both?
Would you engage in that activity if you were not paid?
arthur
-Original Message-
From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2004 7:54 PM
To: 'Thomas Lunde'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ed,
At 11:10 06/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Keith:
I hope you both realise that the young boy and girl factory workers
(that is, under 10 or 11) were a very small minority all the way through
the 19th century? Most of the children were at school -- and at
fee-paying school, too! The poorest went
I
should have said, doesn't the trade union ammeliorate the effect or impact of
Ricardo's Iron Law? That is by introducing a floor below which wages can't
fall. Perhaps making it Ricardo's Plastic or Elastic
Law???
arthur
-Original Message-From: Harry Pollard
[mailto:[EMAIL
I believe in a justice system that reflects some degree of equity. Call it
morality if you wish. OK with me.
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From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2004 4:55 PM
To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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and what are the roots of your hate Chris??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2004 4:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Attempted assassination of Tony Blair?
> Golda Meir once said something like "it's not th
246. Where has music gone?
And, come to think of it, where has art gone, or poetry, or philosophy, or
architecture? Apart from also getting into a real mess.
The new book, Music Healing the Rift, by Ivan Hewett and as summarised by
Michael Church in a recent review in the Independent, describes
Keith:
I hope you both realise that the
young boy and girl factory workers (that is, under 10 or 11) were a very small
minority all the way through the 19th century? Most of the children were at
school -- and at fee-paying school, too! The poorest went to charity
schools.
Keith, I
In case some of you missed this “revelation” several months ago.
Out
of Their Anti-Tax Minds
By
Richard Cohen, Tuesday, January 6, 2004; Page A17
This is the way things
happen in my business. In October the extremely influential GOP activist and
White House insider Grover Norquist w
The build-up
to the State of the Union speech should be especially amusing this election year,
with overly rosy previews by David Brooks et
al (see his column today opposite this one claiming that a neocon
cabal in Washington is an urban myth), while those who don’t have free passes
to the
Charles,
I think the problem with your approach --well-intentioned though it is --
is that I think you are assuming that the work/employment situation is a
somehow permanent condition that can be understood in a fundamental way
(and, as a corollary, I guess, that deficiencies can be compensated f
Ed and Harry,
I hope you both realise that the young boy and girl factory workers (that
is, under 10 or 11) were a very small minority all the way through the
19th century? Most of the children were at school -- and at fee-paying
school, too! The poorest went to charity schools.
There's a good ex
Cheez Harry, why are the raptors coming back since they
banned DDT? This is typical of the kind of Western industrially
minded thinking that put lead in my brain because it was
"safe". Now they can't even afford to clean up the mess that
pollutes not only the brains of the children but t
Harry, my reference applied most essentially to
England, which not only led the industrial revolution but also led industrial
reform. Do you really mean that five year olds were working in the mines
now?
Ed
- Original Message -
From:
Harry Pollard
To: 'Ed Weick' ; [EMAI
What are
Australia’s problems with
work?
1.
An unemployment
problem
there are not enough jobs?
2.
An overwork
problem
those with jobs working longer and harder?
3.
A spirit/soul
problem
Over the years since this list was created I
have made a number of attempts to begin a discourse on the difference between
the future of work and the future of employment, and of the implications of an
understanding of this difference for the future of humanity.
On each occasion, the conve
Brad,
Gore was seen as an arrogant politician.
The kid from Texas was seen as an honest person who told it as he
saw it. The Dems were so busy laughing at his gaffs - and
creating quite a few when he didn't provide enough, that they
didn't notice that people liked this presumably honest
individua
Ray,
What does that
mean?
Who needs an
attitude of planning and responsibility?
Let’s not talk
in riddles, neither us is an oracle.
At least I’m
not.
Harry
Henry George School of Social Science
of Los Angeles
Box 655 Tu
Title: Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Cavema n
Trade vs. Modern Trade
Ray,
I can’t even
remember the names of the music or artists who are long time favorites.
Harry put on the
Brahm’s Violin the other day. I came in and said “Isn’t that the Brahm’s?”
Ray,
Then you
believe in Laissez-faire.
Come to market.
I would
certainly let you go about your lawful business without interference.
Would you let
me go about my lawful business without interference?
If you would,
then you are a free trader.
Harry
***
Ray,
If
something illegal happened in Florida
(other than that practiced by the Florida Supreme Court) then it should be
prosecuted and the miscreants should
My interest
is what might be called professional environmentalism goes back a long way to a
radio show I did on DDT where I f
Ray,
You believe we like to work, but when we don't like to work, you
call it drudgery.
If we liked work, we would be doing things the same way we have
always done them. We avoid work (actually exertion) and thereby
get more done with less time and energy and then have time for
music and suchlike
Charles,
I didn’t
exactly say that.
(“he
suggests that in order to get what we need and want we will need to work for
ten thousand years.”)
I said the possibility of machines doing
all our work for us is a fantasy that won’t take place for a thousand or
ten thousand years. I kno
Ray,
You said:
"I realize this is dangerously close to Harry's "privilege" laws
but I argue with him over sloppiness, and an over generalization
that is too diffuse to be practical, not over the underlying
problem."
What on earth do you mean?
Harry
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