Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 24 May 2008, Ulrich Mueller wrote: # switch desk Key Left A CM PipeRead "echo GotoDesk $((-1+3*($[desk.n]%3==0))) 0 0 8' Key Right A CM PipeRead "echo GotoDesk $((1-3*($[desk.n]%3==2))) 0 0 8' Key Up A CM GotoDesk 3 0 0 8 Key Down A CM GotoDesk -3 0 0 8 quotes at the end of course, s

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Gautam Iyer wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:04:07PM -0700, Gautam Iyer wrote: (Or at least I don't know how to do this natively). I don't see how you can be confused. The examples in the manpage might lead you to believe that Goto{Page,Desk} only operates linearly, bu

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 22May2008 14:57, Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or | several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for | choosing one or the other? | | I've never found any use for running a program with a window larger | than

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-23 Thread Chris G
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 01:23:50AM +0100, John Latham wrote: > > So, if you don't want to use the two level structure then perhaps your > question becomes ``what is the difference between multiple desktops each with > one page, and multiple pages in one desktop?'' And I guess the answer is > wheth

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Gautam Iyer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:04:07PM -0700, Gautam Iyer wrote: >>> (Or at least I don't know how to do this natively). >> >> I don't see how you can be confused. The examples in the manpage >> might lead you to believe that Goto{Page,Desk} only operates linearly, >> but it really is an x,y operati

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread John Latham
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:15:46PM +0100, John Latham wrote: > > > From: John Latham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:17 +0100 (BST) > > > > > * Pages are used as more desk space within each `task', e.g. I might > > > have a web browser open on the Java API in the page

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Gautam Iyer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:15:54PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: >> (Or at least I don't know how to do this natively). > > I don't see how you can be confused. The examples in the manpage > might lead you to believe that Goto{Page,Desk} only operates linearly, > but it really is an x,y operation.

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, 22 May 2008 15:10:09 -0700 Gautam Iyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Or at least I don't know how to > do this natively). I don't see how you can be confused. The examples in the manpage might lead you to believe that Goto{Page,Desk} only operates linearly, but it really is an x,y operat

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Gautam Iyer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 08:36:58PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: >> The only thing I missed was the ability to have a 3x3 grid of pages and >> move between them with vi like keys (e.g. Win+h/j/k/l). A little >> scripting with FvwmPerl makes this easy... > > Why FvwmPerl? This why Goto{Page,Desk}

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris Giroir
> I quite agree about the organisation aspects but I fail to understand > what difference using Desktops, or Pages, or both, makes to the result. > > -- > Chris Green You can trim icons displayed in icon managers by page or desk as well, so it can be handy. I generally have icons shown for the cur

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:15:46PM +0100, John Latham wrote: > > From: John Latham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:17 +0100 (BST) > > > * Pages are used as more desk space within each `task', e.g. I might > > have a web browser open on the Java API in the page next to

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 06:54:17PM +0100, John Latham wrote: > * FvwmTaskBar can be set to show only windows on the current desktop, > (and iconised ones), which is less cluttered if you organise your > desktops into `task' activities. > I don't use a task bar so that's not relev

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Thomas Adam
On 22/05/2008, Gautam Iyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only thing I missed was the ability to have a 3x3 grid of pages and > move between them with vi like keys (e.g. Win+h/j/k/l). A little > scripting with FvwmPerl makes this easy... Why FvwmPerl? This why Goto{Page,Desk} exists. -- Tho

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:08:07PM -0400, Chris Giroir wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > > choosing one or the oth

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris G
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 06:00:06PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > On Thu, 22 May 2008, Chris G wrote: > >> I rarely (but very occasionally) would like to drag a window from one >> place to another. > > Personally I like the little pager in the corner to swap pages/desktops, > and occasionally t

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Gautam Iyer
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 02:57:17PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > choosing one or the other? I used to use pages all the time, but that causes things to *really* mess u

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread John Latham
> From: John Latham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:54:17 +0100 (BST) > * Pages are used as more desk space within each `task', e.g. I might > have a web browser open on the Java API in the page next to the one I > am writing code in: I can just slide between the

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread John Latham
> I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > choosing one or the other? > > I've never found any use for running a program with a window larger > than my screen size, I rarely (but very occasionally) would

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Elliot S
I have mine set up w/ 2 desks of 4 pages each. Only one desk is visible at a time. Middle clicking on a page switches me to that page on the other desk. I have numbered title bar buttons to move windows to numbered page, or can move it to same page on other desk.

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Chris Giroir
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > choosing one or the other? When I used a page system I was doing school work a lot. My typic

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Chris G wrote: I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for choosing one or the other? Mah, I originally developed my arrangement (when I moved into fvwm from a single desktop single p

Re: FVWM: Desktops versus Pages - how to use?

2008-05-22 Thread Dan Espen
Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've never quite made my mind up whether to use several Desktops or > several Pages on one desktop, what are the reasons (if any) for > choosing one or the other? Pages seem more useful to me. If you ever want to see half a window you can. When my VPN discon