but, AFAICS, it does not really
apply to the case that I want. In particular, I do *not* want a new
window to pop up in the middle of the screen: I want to have windows
switch right away when I hit Win-Tab.
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Hi,
I want flat, non 3D Window borders. How do I set this up?
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I'm trying to set up FVWM2. However, browsing the man page is tedious since it
is extremely long. Is it available divided into subsections in INFO, HTML, or
some other format?
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On Saturday 23 November 2002 04:26 pm, Dan Espen wrote:
> > I'm trying to set up FVWM2. However, browsing the man page is tedious
> > since it is extremely long. Is it available divided into subsections in
> > INFO, HTML, or some other format?
>
> HTML:
>
> http://www.fvwm.org/generated/manpages/fv
On Saturday 23 November 2002 04:52 pm, Dan Espen wrote:
> > Thanks, but it's not divided into sub sections and therefore offers no
> > great advantage to the text mode man page for me.
>
> Near the top, click on "this page contents".
Not bad, but still not convenient. It would be better if the doc
Hi,
when I place the cursor on the top, bottom or side frame of a window the
cursors shape is changed into the respective resize shape. However when
pressing the left mouse button and dragging the cursor the shape changes into
a cross and the window gets moved around and not resized. Moving aro
Hi,
I want to scroll around the desktop only when hitting screen borders with the
mouse cursor while moving a window and not when just moving the mouse. Is
this possible?
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Hi,
I set up key combinations (CA-Left, CA-Right, CA-UP, CA-DOWN) to move around
pages on a desktop by 100% window size. But when pressing eg. CA-Left I
expect the currently visible window below the mouse cursor to have input
focus. To do this I guess it is easiest to focus the window below the
On Saturday 23 November 2002 07:19 pm, Norvell Spearman wrote:
> I did this on my system:
>
> $ cp /usr/man/man1/fvwm.1.bz2 ~/tmp
> $ cd ~/tmp
> $ bzip2 -d fvwm.1.bz2
> $ man2html fvwm.1 > fvwm.html
> $ htmldoc -f fvwm.pdf fvwm.html
>
> It gave me a really nice pdf file with a table of contents, cl
On Saturday 23 November 2002 07:50 pm, Norvell Spearman wrote:
> > Yes, but in your case searching still affects the whole document or am I
> > missing something?
>
> In one posting you use the words ``sub sections'' and in the next
> ``subdocuments.'' I didn't try the other methods offered, but t
On Saturday 23 November 2002 10:38 pm, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > I want to scroll around the desktop only when hitting screen borders
> > with the mouse cursor while moving a window and not when just moving the
> > mouse. Is this possible?
>
> Yes, sure, this is possible. The default behaviour of
Hi,
I would like to set up a panel that is similar to Gnome's panel or KDE's
kicker. Some neccessary features that I absolutely need are:
1. A button that shows the applications menu
2. A list of the windows on the current desktop
3. The pager
4. A Clock
5. Autohide
I know that there is FvwmTask
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 17:14, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> from a Schedule command does not work. With my latest patch it is
> more stable but may still crash if the timing is wrong.
FVWM will crash? Then as an end user which of the many proposed solutions
should I take in order to get autohiding to
Hi,
I want to add a volume control and a clock to an FvwmButtons panel.
Currently, I'm using wmmixer and wmclock (those are dockable applets for
Window Maker). However, they are not centered in the corresponding buttons.
I already tried specifying "-geometry" but that isn't accepted by these
a
Hi,
when I start an application on a certain desktop, say 1, and switch to
another desktop, say 2, I find it annoying that the application pops up on
desktop 2. Is there a setting to force all applications and their child
windows to appear on the desktop where they were started?
Felix
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On Sunday 20 April 2003 00:58, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > when I start an application on a certain desktop, say 1, and switch to
> > another desktop, say 2, I find it annoying that the application pops up
> > on desktop 2. Is there a setting to force all applications and their
> > child windows to
On Sunday 20 April 2003 07:18, parv wrote:
> > What swallowable apps do you recommend to use as a volume
> > control and clock?
>
> I like wmmixer very much; i tried some others but not any one of
> them were any more impressive -- in terms of small binary size
> & dependencies, and ease of placeme
On Saturday 19 April 2003 22:07, Felix E. Klee wrote:
> Therefore my question: Is it possible to center a
> swallowed app in an FvwmButtons button?
Stupid me - padding is the way to go. At least when the applets are smaller
than the buttons then this works fine.
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On Sunday 20 April 2003 11:04, Simon Matthews wrote:
> I have no idea if the applications you are trying to use it with support
> -xrm, but in theory ... (ie completely untested):
>
> DestroyFunc DExec
> AddToFunc DExec
> + I Exec $0 -xrm "*Desk:$[desk.n]" $1
>
> if you call it using:
>
> DExec xte
On Sunday 20 April 2003 15:00, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > Hm, many apps don't support that hint. But I forged a function that
> > might be usable as a replacement for Exec:
> >
> > DestroyFunc DExec
> > AddToFunc DExec
> > + I Style $0 StartsOnDesk $[desk.n], SkipMapping
> > + I Ex
On Sunday 20 April 2003 18:27, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > It's quite simple: Under KDE when I start an application on a certain
> > desktop, say 2, and switch to another desktop, say 1, then, after being
> > loaded, the application will pop up on desktop 2 without interrupting
> > me working on de
Hi,
I want to do a lot of "realtime" (i.e. M4 is not an option) arithmetics in
.fvwm2rc. Currently I'm using expressions like
PipeRead `let "x=$[FVWM_A]*$[FVWM_B]"; printf "SetEnv
FVWM_C $$x"`
This has two advantages:
1. It is not very readable
2. It depends on the shell I'm using
Ar
I found a simple solution that makes arithmetics more readable, at least:
DestroyFunc Let
AddToFunc Let
+ I PipeRead `bash -c 'let "FVWM_LET_TMP=$1"; printf "SetEnv $0
FVWM_LET_TMP"'`
That way I can easily write complicated arithmetic expressions, eg.
Let FVWM_TMP "($[desk.n] >= $[
On Sunday 20 April 2003 21:35, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> Use FvwmPerl in 2.5.x for arithmetics and string operations:
Thanks, that's also a possibility.
> FvwmPerl
>
> SendToModule FvwmPerl eval $c = "AnimatedMove"; $n = 50;
> SendToModule FvwmPerl eval cmd("Current $c " . ($n / 2) . " 10
On Monday 21 April 2003 03:25, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > Hm, don't you consider Perl a separate process? In addition, don't I
> > need environment variables to interface with perl?
>
> I mean that when you start one FvwmPerl process together with fvwm,
> there are 0 forks per line. And when you i
On Monday 21 April 2003 14:17, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > What you showed is preprocessing. As said in my original post, what I'm
> > after is realtime processing where I need several global variables
> > anyways. Concerning readability: I'm not a Perler and for me the code
> > isn't very readable
Hi,
I want *maximized* windows to be without a title bar and only one flat frame
around them, i.e. they should have the style
Style * BorderWidth 16, HandleWidth 16
Style * NoTitle
Borderstyle -- Flat
Normal windows, however, should have a normal frame with a title bar, handle
bars, e
On Monday 21 April 2003 03:25, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > > FvwmPerl may also be used as a more powerful replacement for FvwmCpp
> > > and FvwmM4 using its -p (--preprocess) flag.
> >
> > To be honest, I don't like that preprocessing stuff. Some standard FVWM
> > expressions do always collide with
On Monday 21 April 2003 23:21, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > Hm, I cannot get preprocessing to work. Here are the relevant lines
> > from my .xinitrc:
> >
> > WINDOWMANAGER='/home/felix/local/bin/fvwm -cmd "Module FvwmPerl -p
> > /home/felix/.fvwm2rc"'
> > exec $WINDOWMANAGER 2> ~/local/var/l
On Sunday 20 April 2003 19:25, Felix E. Klee wrote:
> That's not what I described (although this is another feature I want).
> Just try this:
> 1. Goto desktop 2
> 2. Start Konqueror
> 3. Switch to desktop 1
> Then Konqueror will pop up on desktop 1. In KDE K
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 05:14, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> The function above only works in the current cvs, there was one problem.
> If you want to use this with 2.5.2+ versions instead of cvs, then the "."
> function above should be defined as the following instead:
>
> DestroyFunc .
> AddToFu
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 10:09, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> > That's not what I described (although this is another feature I want).
> > Just try this:
> > 1. Goto desktop 2
> > 2. Start Konqueror
> > 3. Switch to desktop 1
> > Then Konqueror will pop up on desktop 1. In KDE Konqueror will po
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 15:05, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > That's very nice. There are some problems though:
> > o Your command conflicts with preprocessing. However, this can probably
> > be solved by using different quote characters for preprocessing or by
> > turning off preprocessing. After al
No answers yet - Is it impossible?
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On Tuesday 22 April 2003 16:49, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> I thought I explained in the parent message why it should be:
>
> AddToFunc StartFunction
> + I ModuleSynchronous FvwmPerl
> + I . Module FvwmPager 0 %{ 5 }%
Thanks, now it works.
> Or, maybe it does not work for you because you chan
One more question: Why does the following line procude a syntax error (I'm
using 2.5.6 and the corresponding definition for ".")?
. Echo %{ if ( 5 > 4 ) { return 5; } else { return 6; } }%
I also tried
SendToModule FvwmPerl eval if ( 5 > 4) { command("Echo 5"); } else {
command("Echo
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 20:09, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > How do I realize such a configuration?
>
> You may maximize your windows to the full screen
That's exactly not what I want. I have a deep black Thinkpad and when I open
an application with a white background (e.g. EMACS) I find the stark
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 22:38, Felix E. Klee wrote:
> Hm, can't this somehow be modified to do what I want? I tried it, but I
> was unsuccessful.
Stupid me - of course it seems to be possible. For example
DestroyFunc FuncFvwmMaximizeFullScreen
AddToFunc FuncFvwmMaximiz
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 20:31, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > 2. It seems that with "." it is only possible to embed one Perl command
> > in %{ ... }% at a time (i.e. not several Perl commands separated by
> > ';'). That should be made clear in the FAQ.
>
> What is the problem with 2 or 10 commands?
On Wednesday 23 April 2003 00:31, Dan Espen wrote:
> > Stupid me - of course it seems to be possible. For example
> >
> > DestroyFunc FuncFvwmMaximizeFullScreen
> > AddToFunc FuncFvwmMaximizeFullScreen
> > + I ThisWindow (Maximized) Style $n Title, BorderWidth 4,
> > HandleWidth 4 + I
Hi,
this doesn't seem to be true in FVWM 2.5.6:
FPGrabFocus is the default for windows with the ClickToFocus style.
Although I specified
Style * ClickToFocus
new windows (created e.g. via Exec) don't receive focus unless I specify
Style * FPGrabFocus
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On Thursday 24 April 2003 13:18, Dan Espen wrote:
> > This is not nice. Are there any hopes for "MaximizedStyle" and
> > "UnMaximizedStyle" commands?
>
> Some day.
That sounds like it's not very high in the priority list. Is this really so
hard to implement. Many window managers (eg. KDE WM, Sawf
Hi,
I would like to remove all default FVWM keybindings. How could this be done?
Felix
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On Friday 25 April 2003 20:21, Dan Espen wrote:
> > I would like to remove all default FVWM keybindings. How could this be
> > done?
>
> Read this section of the man page:
>
> BUILT-IN KEY AND MOUSE BINDINGS
It only describes how to remove single bindings. However, I thought there is
a command to
On Saturday 26 April 2003 07:06, parv wrote:
> > A little less extreme is a PipeRead script reading and extracting
> > all the "Key" commands from ConfigFvwmDefaults, but its not like a
> > new builtin keybinding is added every day.
>
> How about this then (just to remove the bindings)...
Hm, why
Hi,
I want to have an on-screen display (e.g. for showing the current desktop
number after switching desktops). When activated it should display a some
text (with a transparent background) and disappear after say 0.5 sec.
How could something like this be implemented?
If there is a program th
Hi,
there seems to be no $[w.layer] variable. How do i get the number of the
layer that the current window is in?
Felix
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On Friday 02 May 2003 20:23, Richard Lister wrote:
> > I want to have an on-screen display (e.g. for showing the current
> > desktop number after switching desktops). When activated it should
> > display a some text (with a transparent background) and disappear after
> > say 0.5 sec.
> >
> > How co
On Friday 02 May 2003 21:26, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > there seems to be no $[w.layer] variable. How do i get the number of
> > the layer that the current window is in?
>
> There is no currently such variable, but it may be added.
>
> Modules can receive the window layers.
>
> Since there are onl
Hi,
I added the following menu entry
+ "QQQ: forward inka ports" Exec ssh -N -L1119:news.inka.de:119
-L1125:mail.inka.de:25 -L1110:mail.inka.de:110 inka
However, when clicking on "QQQ: forward inka ports" the ssh deamon starts
but terminates immediately afterwards. When I start the above s
On Monday 05 May 2003 10:26, Uwe Pross wrote:
> > + "QQQ: forward inka ports" Exec ssh -N -L1119:news.inka.de:119
> > -L1125:mail.inka.de:25 -L1110:mail.inka.de:110 inka
> >
> > However, when clicking on "QQQ: forward inka ports" the ssh deamon
> > starts but terminates immediately afterwards.
On Monday 05 May 2003 10:43, Ben Winslow wrote:
> > I added the following menu entry
> >
> > + "QQQ: forward inka ports" Exec ssh -N -L1119:news.inka.de:119
> > -L1125:mail.inka.de:25 -L1110:mail.inka.de:110 inka
> >
> > However, when clicking on "QQQ: forward inka ports" the ssh deamon starts
Hello? Could someone please comment on my bug report and my other question?
Thanks
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Hi,
here is something I want to share. I found a very simple way to realize a
run dialog (similar to grun, tkrun, etc.) using an rxvt. The trick is to
bind the string " &\nexit\n" (I'm using bash) to the return key.
To start the dialog I created the following script:
.fvwm/run-dialog:
#!/b
On Monday 05 May 2003 23:27, Johan Svedberg wrote:
> Why not just use FvwmForm?
I haven't looked at it. But I doubt that it is as simple to set up. In
addition, with rxvt and bash I have tab completion. Is this possible with
an FvwmForm based solution?
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On Friday 09 May 2003 10:13, Thomas Stibor wrote:
> I use FvwmForm with following small code
>
> [...]
This looks indeed nice but it doesn't have tab completion. Anyways, with all
these little hacks another idea comes into my mind:
Wouldn't it be nice to have a Wiki on the FVWM homepage where pe
Hi,
when I call fvwm-menu-desktop as follows I only get a hierarchy of empty
menus.
export KDEDIR=/opt/kde3 # --install-prefix=/opt/kde3 doesn't work
fvwm-menu-desktop --desktop kde-user
Is fvwm-menu-desktop just broken or am I doing something wrong?
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On Saturday 17 May 2003 12:32, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> It may or may not not support KDE 3 yet, but try this, it should work
> more or less:
>
> fvwm-menu-desktop --dir /opt/kde3/share/applnk --wm-icons
Thanks, this does indeed work. However, I need the user menu (from
/home/felix/.kde/applnk
On Saturday 17 May 2003 13:47, Felix E. Klee wrote:
> So now my question becomes: Why does fvwm-menu-desktop have problems with
> the above valid Exec line?
It seems to be that the check_app subroutine in fvwm-menu-desktop is broken.
After using the option "--nocheck-app" every
Hi,
some time ago I set up keyboard shortcuts for switching desktops with the
cursor keys. For example the left key calls the function
AddToFunc GotoDeskLeft
+ I . GotoDesk %{ ($[desk.n]%$f::hdesks >= 1) ? -1 : 0; }%
This function checks if the current desktop is in a certain range and calls
G
On Tuesday 20 May 2003 22:20, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> Please always specify which version do you run.
> Please always provide enough of the configuration to be understandable,
> one may only guess how exactly you defined the "." function.
Sorry, I forgot to mention:
1. I'm using 2.5.6.
2. AddToF
On Thursday 24 July 2003 10:39, Mario Domgörgen wrote:
> Wouldn't it be great if fvwm has its own wiki? Fvwm is customizable and
> there are so a lot of usefull code snippets, that i would lek the idea
> of a playce where we can collect such things. In the FAQ are already
> some great pieces, but t
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 08:11, Uwe Pross wrote:
> I am not that sure if it is that appropriate.
> (see http://wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki) Allowing everyone
> to edit site contents requires the pages to be maintained,
> so that advertising and other unwanted, probably illegal
> stuff is removed. O
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 23:00, Paul Smith wrote:
> CodeWeavers CXOffice and CXPlugin
I'll put it in the WIKI and let you know about it.
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On Wednesday 30 July 2003 00:33, RvB wrote:
> > Webspace can be provided by Rene van Bevern (RvB) ...
>
> so i did. i put up a configured MoinMoin Wiki on
> http://rvb.dyndns.org/FvwmWiki with an fvwm css style and a basic front
> page.
Thank you! Let's hope that your computer will withstand the
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 11:21, Felix E. Klee wrote:
> I'll put it in the WIKI and let you know about it.
OK, I did it. You can find the information in the Wiki under "Scripts >
MenuScripts > CodeWeaversMenus".
Felix
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Hi,
I want to remove a superfluous page that I created recently but I'm unable
to do so because the actions at the bottom of the page don't include the
delete action. However, in "Recent Changes" I see that other users were
able to delete pages. So what is the way to go?
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Hi,
I also have a critique about the UserPreferences page: When creating my
account I was confused that I have to enter my email address twice and some
kind of ID. This was due to the fact that the fields for logging in are not
visually separated from the fields for registration (putting login
n the thread above (and also
with the fact that it is late now and I should go to bed). Here's how I got
confused:
1. When creating a new account I entered "FEKlee" into the ID field and
"Felix E. Klee" into the Name field because I thought that the data in
the ID fi
Hi,
I have another question concerning the current Wiki setup (sorry that I
don't use the dedicated IRC channel - but it is really impractical for me):
What is the "Scripts" section for? I put in some information on how to
integrate the menus from CodeWeavers apps and the SuSE menus because
so
On Friday 01 August 2003 12:09, RvB wrote:
> > Another related thing: In CreatingNewPages it says that the WikiNames
> > for new subsections should be e.g. Tips/CenterWindow instead of
> > CenterWindow. Doesn't this cause inconsistencies when rearranging
> > sections as there seems to be no action
Hi,
something else:
I'm a member of the FFII and we are organizing a demonstration on
August 27th (see the latest press release at http://swpat.ffii.org/
neues/03/demo0819/index.en.html) to make people and MEPs (members of the
European parliament) aware of the dangers surrounding the legalization
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:22:36 +0200 Uwe Pross wrote:
> > I'm for closing down the site completely (with a statement, of
> > course).
>
> The version of the protest page can be seen when adding
> ?aswp=1 to any www.fvwm.org address.
> http://www.fvwm.org?aswp=1
> This site can be made as default fo
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:17:20 +0200 Uwe Pross wrote:
> > I am going to remove the protest web page against software
> > patents today or tommorow.
>
> I decided to leave the protest page till monday when the
> parliament vote takes place.
Read this:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/tol-29.0
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:28:19 +0200 Mario Domgörgen wrote:
> (do ((a 1 b) (b 1 (+ a b))) (nil a) (print a))
Asshole! ;)
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> Fill me in, what's that do?
Well, that's what I wanted to know as well (I never used the do
construct before). So I let it run unattended and it started filling up
memory till a point where my machine started running out of memory and
programs started to crash. Luckily, I could hit C-g quickly e
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 11:46:38 -0400 Dan Espen wrote:
> > Mario, can you explain this?
>
> I'm not Mario, but I can offer a theory.
>
> When I ran it I evaluated it in the scratch buffer.
> It didn't seem to be growing very fast.
>
> Since there is a print in there, I think the memory was
> space
Hi,
I need a solution to give focus to the top most window that accepts
focus. Any ideas?
At first, I tried
Next (AcceptsFocus,Raised) Focus
But this doesn't do what I want if the currently raised window is one
that doesn't accept focus. In this case I want the second highest window
to
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:28:53 -0500 Dan Espen wrote:
> > Topmost (AcceptsFocus) Focus
> > or maybe Topmost (CurrentPage,AcceptsFocus) Focus
Exactly. That would be nice.
> Are we using topmost in the visual sense?
Not necessarily. I assume FVWM manages a list internally in order to know in
which
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 23:11:24 +0100 Felix E. Klee wrote:
> For example, I often have the problem that a
> nonfocusable button bar obscures the topmost focusable window.
FYI, I finally solved that problem by creating a function
AddToFunc LowerPanel
+ I Next (FvwmButtons,CurrentDesk)
Hi,
I wonder what is the best place to initialize environment variables.
Until recently, I let them be initialized with a line
source .environment
in my .xinitrc right before the window manager is started
(".environment" contains lines of the kind "export VAR=..."). An
advantage of this meth
Hi,
under FVWM, how can I get the same behavior as the following BASH
command:
export SOME_PATH=$SOME_PATH:/usr/lib
?
The problem is that I don't know whether $[SOME_PATH] is already set or
not. When it is set, then
setenv SOME_PATH $[SOME_PATH]:/usr/lib
sets the value of $[SOME_PATH] to
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:22:33 + Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> PipeRead 'echo SetEnv SOME_PATH $SOME_PATH:/usr/lib'
Thanks for this nice and simple solution. I wrapped it into a function
(took some time, though, until I had the quoting correct):
DestroyFunc AppendToEnv
AddToFunc AppendToE
Hi Chris,
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 14:24:29 +0200 Chris Rouch wrote:
> I want the gimp to start on desk 3, so I have the following
> configuration:
>
> Style "gimp-2.0" StartsOnDesk 3 SkipMapping
>
> The splash screen goes to desk 3 without altering my current desk.
> However as soon as the m
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 17:34:37 +0100 Tavis Ormandy wrote:
> This works here:
>
> Style Gimp-2.0 StartsOnPage 2 2, SkipMapping, !FPFocusByFunction
Just tired that. It doesn't work for me, but I'm still using
2.5.8. BTW, I've
Style * SkipMapping
and no styles with ShowMapping in my config. So, I
Hi,
unfortunately the FFII and related organizations have been forced into
some last minute actions to prevent the council from "silently" passing
the EU Software Patent directive in the Agriculture and Fisheries
Council on Tuesday next week. That would be one major step towards the
legalization
At Mon, 20 Dec 2004 04:19:35 +0100,
Felix E. Klee wrote:
> Council on Tuesday next week.
To be more specific: Tommorow!
Could you please add a banner or something - It would be very helpful,
also to motivate other sites.
Felix
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At Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:14:54 +0100,
Uwe Pross wrote:
> > Could you please add a banner or something - It would be very helpful,
> > also to motivate other sites.
>
> Of course! Could you please post a location where to get "a
> banner or something".
Here:
http://demo.ffii.org/banner.html
Thanks
At Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:14:54 +0100,
Uwe Pross wrote:
> Of course!
Thanks. I added FVWM to the list of supporters:
http://demo.ffii.org/support.php
Unfortunately, things seem to have changed in a bad way:
http://kwiki.ffii.org/Kuenast041221De
There's a little hope, though, that some states m
want to trigger: At the moment, only
changing of virtual desktops, preferably using special functions
that I've put into "~/fvwm2rc".
Felix
PS: No web forum please (crappy user interface, no offline
capabilities, often no threading).
--
Felix E. Klee
for example to your
favorite theme.
Some random links to free graphics programs that can deal with the data
available for download:
- http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
- http://www.blender.org/
- http://www.inkscape.org/
- http://www.gimp.org/
--
Felix E. Klee
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