Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-03-03 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
PROTECTED]> To: "Ralph Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Matthew Ratzloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Zend Framework" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming We would have to rename all nouned clas

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-03-03 Thread Ralph Schindler
I think you respond related to the issues ZF-944, ZF-945, ZF-946, ZF-947. I am not member of the devteam, so the decission itself was not done by me. Thomas, I dont mean to stir the pot, but like alot of issues that start on the message board, I didn't know it got transfered to Jira for tra

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-03-03 Thread Thomas Weidner
Most people declared Zend_Translate over Zend_Translator, because non native english people know "translate" but do not know "translator"... Why? Do nouns not translate well to other languages? I don't understand. I think you respond related to the issues ZF-944, ZF-945, ZF-946, ZF-947. I am

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-03-03 Thread Ralph Schindler
Most people declared Zend_Translate over Zend_Translator, because non native english people know "translate" but do not know "translator"... Why? Do nouns not translate well to other languages? I don't understand. -ralph

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-20 Thread Nico Edtinger
[19.02.2007 22:20] Matthew Ratzloff wrote: In subclasses: Zend_Mail_Read (wherever it went) => Zend_Mail_Reader It's now called Zend_Mail_Storage_.. solved that one =) Zend_Mime_Decode => Zend_Mime_Decoder Decoder sounds like a Schwarzenegger action movie. It's also more of an internal c

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-20 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
>> Zend_Mime_Decode => Zend_Mime_Decoder > > Decoder sounds like a Schwarzenegger action movie. It's also more of > an internal class. But if everyone's happy with that name I'll change > it. :-D Anyway, it lines up with Zend_Json_Decoder. -Matt

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-20 Thread Thomas Weidner
Unlike classes like Zend_Search or Zend_Filter, Zend_Validate and Zend_Translate can only be verbs, and should be changed to a noun form to match the rest of the framework. Zend_Validate => Zend_Validator Zend_Translate => Zend_Translator When creating Zend_Translate there was a contest on wh

Re: Fw: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-19 Thread Lars Strojny
Hi, Am Montag, den 19.02.2007, 19:26 -0800 schrieb Matthew Ratzloff: [...] > > Also I suggest to use Zend_Data_Validator name instead of a plain > > Zend_Validator. > > What do you think? Zend_Data_Validatar is meant to be a validation class for Zend_Data, which does not exists. So a valid name w

Fw: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-19 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
I think Andrew meant to send this to the list: - Original Message - From: "Andrew Bidochko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matthew Ratzloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming Zend_V

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-19 Thread Jim Scherer
Great catch and well put. I hope this is implemented. Matthew Ratzloff wrote: > > There seem to be a few issues with naming consistency of the framework > components. Nearly all of them have Zend_(noun) as the pattern, but there > are some that don't. > > Unlike classes like Zend_Search or

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-19 Thread Werner
Matthew Ratzloff wrote: Consistency means predictability, which means being able to recall names without having to check the manual every time. It's why most people can't use PHP's date or string functions without looking at the documentation, for example. Very good point, I'm glad you men

Re: [fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-19 Thread Martel Valgoerad
Matthew Ratzloff wrote: Consistency means predictability, which means being able to recall names without having to check the manual every time. Seconded. -Matt -- Martel Valgoerad aka Michal Minicki | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://aie.pl/martel.asc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

[fw-general] Consistency in naming

2007-02-19 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
There seem to be a few issues with naming consistency of the framework components. Nearly all of them have Zend_(noun) as the pattern, but there are some that don't. Unlike classes like Zend_Search or Zend_Filter, Zend_Validate and Zend_Translate can only be verbs, and should be changed to a