Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-02-03 Thread Jeff Moore
Hello, I am glad to see ZF on a PEAR channel. However, I feel there are some advantages to distributing in micro packages versus a single macro package. Mostly, that distributing smaller packages forces an explicit enumeration of dependencies between packages. I believe the process of

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-02-02 Thread Gavin Vess
I see much value in each of the following scenarios, which combined form what I expect to cover the majority of use cases: 1) PEAR component distributing entire ZF (for developers interested primarily in the latest official release of the incubator, docs, and tests, with an easy mechanism to

[Fwd: Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro]

2007-02-02 Thread Michael Gauthier
I forgot to reply to the list. ---BeginMessage--- Solution #2 would be great for silverorange. If we want the latest and greatest from the incubator packages for our dev servers we can do a SVN checkout. Also, we love your on-line documentation. On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 14:05 -0800, Gavin Vess

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-02-02 Thread Rob Allen
Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: Just a note: most PEAR packages contain, minimally, tests, and often documentation and examples. I only actually discovered this recently when one pear package put it's docs and tests in c:\php\pear even though my install is in c:\programs\php\pear ...

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-02-01 Thread Andries Seutens
Michael Caplan schreef: Hi Andries, I would think that distributing via a PEAR channel would help reach a broader public. Was that not the case? Not to beat what I assume is a long dead discussion, I don't see the connection between a need to release the whole codebase in steps VS making each

RE: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-02-01 Thread Michael Caplan
Message- From: Andries Seutens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 1, 2007 1:48 PM To: Michael Caplan Cc: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro Michael Caplan schreef: Hi Andries, I would think that distributing via a PEAR channel would help reach

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-02-01 Thread Gavin Vess
the stated concern about end developer complications? Best, Michael -Original Message- From: Andries Seutens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 1, 2007 1:48 PM To: Michael Caplan Cc: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro Michael Caplan schreef

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-02-01 Thread Rob Allen
Michael Caplan wrote: Being a newbie, perhaps I am overlooking something here, but I don't understand your comment that The Zend Framework works together, as a complete unit. I understand their are various component dependencies, but I don't believe that I can't use Zend_Pdf, for example, if

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-02-01 Thread Arnaud Limbourg
Rob Allen wrote: Michael Caplan wrote: Being a newbie, perhaps I am overlooking something here, but I don't understand your comment that The Zend Framework works together, as a complete unit. I understand their are various component dependencies, but I don't believe that I can't use Zend_Pdf,

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-01-31 Thread Daniel O'Connor
It seems to me that the biggest hurdle to keeping zend framework up to date on a pear channel of its own is turning it into a pear package is altogether too manual. Have we looked at the difficulty in setting up a phing task to automagically build the package? It's already done for the

RE: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-01-31 Thread Michael Caplan
: January 30, 2007 5:19 PM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Cc: Nathan Fredrickson Subject: RE: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro At silverorange we use some elements from the Zend Framework already. All our other code is managed through PEAR channels (both ours and PEAR's) and we'd love it if Zend

RE: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-01-31 Thread Michael Caplan
Haven't done it myself, but according to this blog it seems possible: http://urdalen.com/blog/?p=135 From: Daniel O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 31, 2007 7:47 AM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro It seems to me

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-01-31 Thread Gavin Vess
*To:* fw-general@lists.zend.com *Subject:* Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro It seems to me that the biggest hurdle to keeping zend framework up to date on a pear channel of its own is turning it into a pear package is altogether too manual. Have we looked at the difficulty in setting up

[fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Caplan
Being very new to Zend FW, I'm curious why a maintained and segmented (IE: each Zend FW component like Zend_Filter available independently) PEAR distribution hasn't been a core distribution method. It seems like it would be a logic step considering that Zend FW fits nicely into PEAR packages. It

Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-01-30 Thread Andries Seutens
Hello, The priority reason for setting up the PEAR channel, was to reach a broader public, that would be testing our code, and thus gather more feedback. There have been numerous discussions about this in the past, and there has been decided to stick to the idea of code reales of the whole

RE: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Caplan
as separate PEAR packages. Best, Michael -Original Message- From: Andries Seutens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 30, 2007 12:05 PM To: Michael Caplan Cc: Richard Thomas; fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro Hello, The priority reason for setting

RE: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Gauthier
Subject: Re: [fw-general] PEAR Channel Distro Hello, The priority reason for setting up the PEAR channel, was to reach a broader public, that would be testing our code, and thus gather more feedback. There have been numerous discussions about this in the past, and there has been