Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:14 PM, mlitwin wrote: > When I decided to reinstall 9,I erased the disk with 10.3 on > it and installed 9.0. That was the only way I could get 9.0 back. 9.0 > was successfully installed.Then I tried to install 10.3 > unsucessfully. The error occurred when I rebooted after

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread Charles Davis
Time to try the 'PRAM Reset' routine (Unknown garbage in PRAM settings can cause some rather strange situations.) While 'booting' (Immediately after pressing the power button) Hold down the 'alt/option', 'command' (apple), 'p', and 'r' keys. Continue holding these keys depressed for at least

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread mlitwin
If I put any cd in,I get the panic error. it's almost as if the data error is making the cd drive not recognize the cd. On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:37 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2008, at 9:33 PM, mlitwin wrote: > >> I put in the 10.3 cd. The computer still gave me the panic >> error

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread mlitwin
When I decided to reinstall 9,I erased the disk with 10.3 on it and installed 9.0. That was the only way I could get 9.0 back. 9.0 was successfully installed.Then I tried to install 10.3 unsucessfully. The error occurred when I rebooted after "installing " or trying to install 10.

Re: iTunes and duplicating songs

2008-12-02 Thread insightinmind
On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Dan wrote: > > Spent a few hours tonite using iTunes on a peeeceee (XP), fixing a > broken library. > > OMG. > > I love my Mac. > > Have I mentioned I love my Mac? > > Fast new pc laptop file manipulation - moving hundreds of files > around etc, was slower than

Re: iTunes and duplicating songs

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
Spent a few hours tonite using iTunes on a peeeceee (XP), fixing a broken library. OMG. I love my Mac. Have I mentioned I love my Mac? Fast new pc laptop file manipulation - moving hundreds of files around etc, was slower than on my 300-MHz Smurf. Mass-changes in iTunes tracks... 1/10

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 2, 2008, at 9:36 PM, mlitwin wrote: > I do not know what that is? The "firmware" is what a PC calls the "BIOS". It's the software in the chips of the computer that controls the initial boot process. Since you've installed OS X already, boot and go to Applications>Utilities>System P

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 2, 2008, at 9:33 PM, mlitwin wrote: > I put in the 10.3 cd. The computer still gave me the panic > error. I was never given the options you mentioned. We've never heard if the firmware was up-to-date? I'd suggest you boot any CD and check the firmware revision. If it's not version 1.1,

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread mlitwin
I do not know what that is. I installed x,then 10.2,10.2 and then 10.3?It doesn't sound as if I did what you said. On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 12:05 PM -0500 12/2/2008, mlitwin wrote: >> My G3 had 9.0 on it when I got it. I did gradual upgrades on it > > Did you update

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread mlitwin
I put in the 10.3 cd. The computer still gave me the panic error. I was never given the options you mentioned. On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:26 PM, glen wrote: > > > > > > - Original Message >> From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Tuesday, Dec

Re: 733 DA or 733 QS?

2008-12-02 Thread Tom
Thanks much, everybody! I guess, based on the info above, I'll avoid the 733 Quicksilvers, if they have unreliable power supplies (I've got enough of that trouble already) and do as Len says and either look for a 933 or 1 GHz Quicksilver. I see on the EveryMac website, which gives the specs for va

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread glen
- Original Message > From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 12:22:34 PM > Subject: Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple > > > > On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:05 AM, mlitwin wrote: > > >My u

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread PeterH
On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Deaner Lawless Jr. wrote: > DU clearly states which format to use when and for what and adhere to > this when installing to an IHD. Followed the article for an XHD and > it works. Boot up supported even before appropriate "flavor" of > updates. Any theories? My guess

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread Deaner Lawless Jr.
On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:05 PM, PeterH wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Deaner Lawless Jr. wrote: > >>> No. The version of OS X that gets installed on the powerpc-based >>> Mac >>> is NOT universal, and vise versa. >>> >> >> Interesting I just assumed Universal meant just that and charged

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread PeterH
On Dec 2, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Deaner Lawless Jr. wrote: >> No. The version of OS X that gets installed on the powerpc-based Mac >> is NOT universal, and vise versa. >> > > Interesting I just assumed Universal meant just that and charged head > long into the windmill. I followed the article using

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread Deaner Lawless Jr.
On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 3:57 PM -0500 12/2/2008, Deaner Lawless Jr. wrote: >> >> It seems apple may be saying an APM formatted disk will work on a >> Intell based Mac. Article HT2595 refers. >> >> > > but it only works on some models. >

Re: showing process running in 10.4 via the terminal

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
At 2:44 PM -0700 12/2/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >Learning Unix for Mac OS X >This edition is Tiger specific, but most of the info is applicable to >any version of OS X. /me runs shrieking into the night muttering something about unix tomes - Dan. -

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread yawg
Hi guys, > >It seems apple may be saying an APM formatted disk will work on a > >Intell based Mac. Article HT2595 refers. > > > > > but it only works on some models. > > >So now I am wondering if I make a Universal drive and clone it to an > >APM formatted XHD

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread yawg
Hi guys, > >It seems apple may be saying an APM formatted disk will work on a > >Intell based Mac. Article HT2595 refers. > > > > > but it only works on some models. > > >So now I am wondering if I make a Universal drive and clone it to an > >APM formatted XHD

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
At 3:57 PM -0500 12/2/2008, Deaner Lawless Jr. wrote: > >It seems apple may be saying an APM formatted disk will work on a >Intell based Mac. Article HT2595 refers. > > but it only works on some models. >So now I am wondering if I make a Universal drive and c

Re: showing process running in 10.4 via the terminal

2008-12-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Gus wrote: > > well that top command is pretty neat... i noticed that the processes > running went all the way to the end of the terminal screen.. any way > to scroll down and see the rest of the printout? or pipe it to a text > file? I am a novice unix user and I h

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread Deaner Lawless Jr.
On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Dan wrote: >> In the past I've had no problem making a bootable backup via >> firewire with Carbon Copy Cloner. Now that I'm using a USB >> connected external HD, it doesn't show up when I go to Startup Disk >> in System Preferences. Is there no way I can boot into

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
At 12:05 PM -0500 12/2/2008, mlitwin wrote: >My G3 had 9.0 on it when I got it. I did gradual upgrades on it Did you update the Mac's firmware? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because y

Re: Issue with Thunderbird? SOLVED!

2008-12-02 Thread Dennis Myhand
MIKO's Support, Design and Development Services wrote: > Short answer is that Thunderbird works FINE on Macs. You just need the > right version and a non-corrupted download. > > The issue was less technical than that. I just needed to drag the installer to the Applications folder and it did

Re: Issue with Thunderbird?

2008-12-02 Thread MIKO's Support, Design and Development Services
Short answer is that Thunderbird works FINE on Macs. You just need the right version and a non-corrupted download. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop

Re: Issue with Thunderbird?

2008-12-02 Thread nestamicky
Dennis Myhand wrote: > Does anyone know of any issues with installing Thunderbird for Macs? I > have a Sawtooth running 10.4.11 on a G-4 450MHz (Beautifully, I might > add), and I don't seem to be able to install Thunderbird. At least, it > doesn't seem to work like the installer for Firefox

Re: showing process running in 10.4 via the terminal

2008-12-02 Thread Dan
At 10:26 AM -0800 12/2/2008, Gus wrote: >well that top command is pretty neat... i noticed that the processes >running went all the way to the end of the terminal screen.. any way >to scroll down and see the rest of the printout? or pipe it to a text >file? I am a novice unix user and I haven't q

Re: 733 DA or 733 QS?

2008-12-02 Thread jonas ulrich
Actually I used the Speed Tools ATA High-Cap Driver with the ata already on the motherboard.-Joans On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I have a G4 733 Digital Audio that I was setting up

Re: 733 DA or 733 QS?

2008-12-02 Thread Christopher Icha
AVOID 733 QS LIKE THE PLAGUE! There is a known power supply issue. The machines start shutting themselves down after a while. Sooner or later, you'll end up with a very expensive paperweight. :0( On Dec 02, 2008, at 06:24 pm, Len Gerstel wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Tom <[EMAI

Re: showing process running in 10.4 via the terminal

2008-12-02 Thread Gus
well that top command is pretty neat... i noticed that the processes running went all the way to the end of the terminal screen.. any way to scroll down and see the rest of the printout? or pipe it to a text file? I am a novice unix user and I haven't quite got all the neat tips and tricks down a

Re: 733 DA or 733 QS?

2008-12-02 Thread Len Gerstel
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a G4 733 Digital Audio that I was setting up to give to a > relative to use with Photoshop. He's into digital photography, and > this 733 ran Photoshop 9 just fine, and I was also giving him iLife > for iMovie and iPhoto an

Re: Hard Drive Size question

2008-12-02 Thread jonas ulrich
I have a gigabyte ethernet model with a 250GB hard drive. I had to use the Speed Tools ATA High-Cap Driver. Works great! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Dennis Myhand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dc wrote: > > One other option is a SCSI controller card with a fast drive. I have > > an ATTO card

Re: My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:05 AM, mlitwin wrote: >My ultimate goal is to have classic and X on the machine. My > immediate goal is to erase the drive and start all over or just > delete the partially installed X. > I have cds for 9,9.1,9.2 ,10,10.03,10.1 ,10.2 and 10.3. > I have tried pushi

My Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in panic mode.-new to Apple

2008-12-02 Thread mlitwin
My G3 had 9.0 on it when I got it. I did gradual upgrades on it up to 10.3. To install os x I had to erase 9 . When I got a G4 I decided to try getting 9 back on the G3. To get 9 back I had to erase 10. 9 was installed successfully. Then I made the mistake of trying to install 10 aga

Re: 733 DA or 733 QS?

2008-12-02 Thread jonas ulrich
I would get a QS 2002 it won't have the 128GB hard drive limit on it. It's a lot less hassle because otherwise you have to buy this special driver to get hard drives over 128GB to work. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a G4 733 Digital Audio that I was se

Re: External Firewire Drive issues

2008-12-02 Thread MIKO's Support, Design and Development Services
On 12/2/08 6:47 AM, "Chris N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > I've been having some external firewire 400 drive issues. The drives are OWC > Mercury Elite-AL Pro drives - I also have a ministack running off of Firewire > 400 and while that has its own issues it does not present this prob

External Firewire Drive issues

2008-12-02 Thread Chris N
Folks, I've been having some external firewire 400 drive issues. The drives are OWC Mercury Elite-AL Pro drives - I also have a ministack running off of Firewire 400 and while that has its own issues it does not present this problem. What seems to happen is that when the drive sleeps, or is

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread insightinmind
On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:20 AM, yawg wrote: > > Hi Clark, > >> Much of the files and folders used in booting and running the OS >> need to >> have Root as the owner. Simply changing permissions to a user >> account >> isn't going to work. You really need to recreate the clone with >> permissio

Re: Hard Drive Size question

2008-12-02 Thread Dennis Myhand
dc wrote: > One other option is a SCSI controller card with a fast drive. I have > an ATTO card driving a 15,000 rpm SCSI hard drive with a 16 MB cache > on one of my Sawtooths. > M...SCSI! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

Re: iWeb newbie questions

2008-12-02 Thread Brian Durant
Personally, I would suggest that you try WordPress.com, especially if you don't have a domain. .txt documents don't take up much room, but should you need more, it is possible to purchase some from WordPress.com. Good luck, Brian On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:38 AM, tonycd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Hard Drive Size question

2008-12-02 Thread dc
On Dec 1, 7:11 pm, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 1, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: > Native on the built-in ATA bus is 128 gb, but there is a high-capacity   > driver available that will get around this. If you stick in an ATA or   > SATA controller card there's no lim

Re: LCD screen flickering and going black.

2008-12-02 Thread AIM Mail
I find this thread very interesting, as I've had the original Apple Studio Display since 1998 and an Anniv. Mac since 1999, both from MacMall, for $1999 and $1299...both new and sealed. Guess what? they're both still in perfect shape to this day. The ASD (the first of it's kind. XGA res., s

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread yawg
Hi Clark, > Much of the files and folders used in booting and running the OS need to > have Root as the owner. Simply changing permissions to a user account > isn't going to work. You really need to recreate the clone with > permissions not ignored. I didn't change a thing. I always cloned sys

Re: CCC Bootable Backup

2008-12-02 Thread yawg
Hi Clark, > Much of the files and folders used in booting and running the OS need to > have Root as the owner. Simply changing permissions to a user account > isn't going to work. You really need to recreate the clone with > permissions not ignored. I didn't change a thing. I always cloned sys