Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On 6/8/09 10:53 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" Broadcast into the ether: > HMMM,  sounds like a case for agent x86 and his friend Psystar. You can build a hackintosh for about $300 if you google around...I am not at all condoning that but... Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > It is officially official. Snow leopard is Intel only > > WAAHHH, I want it to run on my Plus. > > Sorry about that. > > Hopefully they will keep updates coming for us (10.4 and 5) for a > little while. > > ___

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On 6/8/09 11:17 AM, "Stephen Weber" Broadcast into the ether: > Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why real > businesses don't use Macs.  It's because Apple does stuff like this.  I mean > look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older hardware. That is n

Re: Apple airport cards frequency band(s)

I did find out that the Apple Airport Extreme wireless cards in recent Mac computers can run at both frequencies. --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Dark_Mac wrote: > From: Dark_Mac > Subject: Re: Apple airport cards frequency band(s) > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 10:32 PM

Re: Apple airport cards frequency band(s)

Mike, Mactracker is you friend. Based on it ( the cards are listed in the device section under Wi-Fi Cards/Base Stations) states that both of these devices run on the 2.4 GHz bands. Regards, Mike On Jun 8, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Mike Baker wrote: > Neither tells me whether the Apple Airport Exp

Re: Apple airport cards frequency band(s)

Neither tells me whether the Apple Airport Express or Apple Airport Extreme cards inside Mac computers run on the 5Ghz frequency band. I know the cards run on the 2.4Ghz frequency band and I am aware the latest base stations can run at both frequency bands. It's the cards in Mac computers that I

Re: [G3-5]Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On 6/8/09 9:45 PM, Vic at wrote: >> W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple! > > Sure you can -- try Basilisk... Well, I've just got the brand-new Safari 4 running on my old Beige G3 Mac. I felt a little less orphan...;-D -- MaGioZal.

Re: Apple airport cards frequency band(s)

On Jun 8, 2009, at 5:14 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: > == 1 of 1 == > Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 1:03 pm > From: psufa...@yahoo.com > > > I have the older Airport Express Base station (802.1b) I am thinking > of buying a dual band Airport Extreme Base Station. It transmit on > the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz fr

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

> W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple! Sure you can -- try Basilisk... V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On 6/8/09, Arnel Tuazon wrote: > > On a side note, what cat will be after Snow Leopard and what happens once > Apple starts using Lion do they turn towards canines? Oooh look the new OS > XI Jack Russell or Rotweiler or Huskey. Just a thought. Believe me, the cat family is huge so no worries

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

At 3:30 PM -0700 6/8/09, Bruce Johnson posted: > On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:55 PM, insightinmind wrote: > >> >> Sounds like someone had their oatmeal cookies today ... >> (I'll stop after this one ... I think) > > > > I did, as a matter of fact...made a batch of oatmeal+raisin+chocolate > chip+peca

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On the laptop that I had Vista on it took only around 10 seconds to shutdown from the time I pressed the shutdown button. Stephen On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, John Musbach wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Stephen Weber > wrote: > > If you turn off all the glitter (which in a work p

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:55 PM, insightinmind wrote: > > Sounds like someone had their oatmeal cookies today ... > (I'll stop after this one ... I think) I did, as a matter of fact...made a batch of oatmeal+raisin+chocolate chip+pecans yesterday. Yummy! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

Alexander MacLeod wrote: > > > Think about all the Windows users out there that run XP > (released in 2001) because Vista is so bad. I have one of those stat analysis thingies on a website. XP beats Mac a little over 2 to 1 Mac beats Vista a little over 2 to 1 amazing well, to me --~--~-~

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: > Uh, for Apple to throw high end G5 (including the quads) under the bus > in less than three years is just plain dumb..  But yet, Apple has done > that time after time. But what is wrong with Leopard? It's a fine OS, and less than two y

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Jun 8, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: > >>> >>> And when Windows 7 comes out officially Apple will update their boot >>> camp install so that you can indeed run Windows 7 on it . I know >>> more >>> than one person who bought a M

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: >> >> And when Windows 7 comes out officially Apple will update their boot >> camp install so that you can indeed run Windows 7 on it . I know more >> than one person who bought a Mac pro *because* it's such a stable, >> good-performing Windows wor

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

Um, I think by "System 7", he was referring to the REAL System 7... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_System_7 And as for the whole compatibility thing, Apple announced Intel-only way back when they announced Snow Leopard. It's not a surprise. I actually just finally upgraded my MDD dual 867

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On 08/06/09 5:22 PM, "Bruce Johnson" wrote: > > > On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Steve R wrote: > >> W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple! > > > > Whaa? hallucination> I can do that! > > > And when Windows 7 comes out officially Apple will update their boot > camp i

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Jun 8, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Steve R wrote: > >> W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple! > > > > Whaa? hallucination> I can do that! I think it was sarcasm ... and OS 7 ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

Alexander MacLeod wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > > >>Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why >>real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. > > > And how long did you expect them to keep supporting

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Steve R wrote: > W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple! Whaa? I can do that! And when Windows 7 comes out officially Apple will update their boot camp install so that you can indeed run Windows 7 on it . I know more than one person who

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

LMAO! Thanks for the laugh. Sarcasm usually works to cheer me up Thanks again! Tim On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you > wonder why real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does > stuff like th

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

At 1:53 PM -0400 6/8/09, Len Gerstel posted: > It is officially official. Snow leopard is Intel only > > WAAHHH, I want it to run on my Plus. > W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple! Get over it! Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You receiv

Apple airport cards frequency band(s)

I have the older Airport Express Base station (802.1b) I am thinking of buying a dual band Airport Extreme Base Station. It transmit on the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz frequency bands. I have been unable to find any info on whether an Airport or Airport Extreme wireless card can operate on the 5Ghz frequenc

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

You should download Monolingual, go to the "Architectures" tab and remove PPC code. You can also remove languages you don't need. I did that for my Intel-based "Mac" and it trimmed off over 2 GB, speeding things up a bit. On Jun 8, 1:43 pm, Alexander MacLeod wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > If you turn off all the glitter (which in a work place environment would > have been done any way) it should run pretty good.  Also I'm pretty sure > Windows 7 will run great on a 2004 office basic computer.  I'm running > Windows 7 RC right n

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

If you turn off all the glitter (which in a work place environment would have been done any way) it should run pretty good. Also I'm pretty sure Windows 7 will run great on a 2004 office basic computer. I'm running Windows 7 RC right now and I've noticed a huge speed increment over Vista SP1. St

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

Stephen Weber wrote: > Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder > why real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff > like this. I mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting > older hardware. > > From, > Stephen Oh come on - you mean just

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why > real businesses don't use Macs.  It's because Apple does stuff like this.  I > mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older hardware. But you also gotta

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

Hi Not sure about you lot, but most of us faced all this a while ago! And compatibility has always been a marketing joke. Just because something is listed as compatible, it's not necessarily useful for the job. Now it just means that people can stop kidding I guess. Even if PPC was included,

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, insightinmind wrote: > I love my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under Leopard 10.5.7 > I will like my new Digital Audio dual 533 (entering the FedEx > system, almost) under Tiger 10.4.11 > I like my Yikes! oc/d to 450 under Tiger 10.4.11 I forgot: I liked my PPC 8500s under Pant

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why > real businesses don't use Macs.  It's because Apple does stuff like this. And how long did you expect them to keep supporting the PPC architecture, forever? And it's

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

Glad i told my uncle to just buy a new mini rather than fix his G4 mini. :) Was planning on upgrading our home computer in a year or so any how...as it is 10.5 and my QS G4 (with a 1.8GHz upgrade) is just fine for surfing the web, checking my email, serving A/V to my AppleTV and using

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

I love my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under Leopard 10.5.7 I will like my new Digital Audio dual 533 (entering the FedEx system, almost) under Tiger 10.4.11 I like my Yikes! oc/d to 450 under Tiger 10.4.11 I liked my Performa I liked my Mac Plus What's an Intel ... Orphans? We're in good company ..

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

me either i have my mdd  very happy with it sorry apple i dont want nothing to do with x86when you stop updateing 10.5 there will allways be a ppc linux distro --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Al boone wrote: From: Al boone Subject: Re: It is official, we are orphans. To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: M

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

I just got my low end G 5, I am NOT moving up to an intel Mac just to get the latest and greatest. I am not. On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why > real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. I mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older hardware. From, Stephen On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > It is o

It is official, we are orphans.

It is officially official. Snow leopard is Intel only WAAHHH, I want it to run on my Plus. Sorry about that. Hopefully they will keep updates coming for us (10.4 and 5) for a little while. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are s

browser question

I use SeaMonkey as my browser and for some reason it has drastically slowed down. I tried rebuilding the desktop with Disk Warrior 3.o.3 which had no effect. Forgive me for my lapse but would it help to download SM again? Do I just throw the other one away once I have downloaded the new one? I

Re: 10.5.7

On Jun 7, 2009, at 7:31 PM, PeterH wrote: > > > On Jun 7, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > >>> FWIW ... manually dowloading the 10.5.7 "combo" update directly from >>> Apple's site worked perfectly on every "Mack" or Hack which I have. >>> >>> Whereas, automatically downloading the model-s

Re: 10.5.7

On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:36 AM, George R. Hozendorf wrote: > > Bill, please be so kind as to publish your 9 steps again. In > switching computers I deleted it. > > Thanks, > George >>> > Log onto the G3-G5 Google site ... It should be saved earlier in this thread, but on the G3-G5 Google site:

Re: 10.5.7

On Jun 8, 2009, at 7:36 AM, George R. Hozendorf wrote: > On Jun 7, 2009, at 7:32 PM, insightinmind wrote: > >> 10.5.7 seems to be running ok now with my 9 Steps outlined >> earlier ... sort of modeled after that 12-Steps How to Debug kp's in >> OS X thing someone shared awhile back ... > Bill, p

Re: 10.5.7

On Jun 7, 2009, at 7:32 PM, insightinmind wrote: > > > On Jun 7, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > >> >> On 6/7/09 7:48 AM, "insightinmind" >> Broadcast into >> the ether: >> >>> That's actually what I did ... used the 10.5.7 Combo updater on my >>> working 10.5.6 OS X. >> >> Did you downlo

Re: ati radeon 9800 pro question

I have seen others online, but not all of them are original Mac cards, some have been flashed from PC to work on mac. I have used some of the flashed cards and generally they work fine. Others have had issues (no sleep, etc). mr On Jun 8, 2009, at 7:52 AM, roger deghetto wrote: > ok i hav

ati radeon 9800 pro question

ok i have a question about this card i know there was a 4x/8x 9800 pro with dvdi/vga ports128mb ram a g5 only card that had 256mb ram and dvi/adc ports was there any other9800 pros that only worked in a g5? or is it just the one with the adc port? and if their was more g5 only cards besides the

Re: Wireless USB dongle software installer won't open

Stephen, the dongle does need USB 2, according to the tech description of it, but like you I added a PCI card that provides it. By the way, here's the URL to this gadget; I notice that the one I provided above was wrong: Anyway, Kris led me to the solution, (thanks Kr