Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:31 AM, John Musbach wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Wallace Adrian > D'Alessio wrote: >> Whatever the agenda is we all agreed to the terms of use when we joined. >> >> They are Dan's lists to run run as he pleases. >> >> There are other options on the web. > >

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread John Musbach
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Whatever the agenda is we all agreed to the terms of use when we joined. > > They are Dan's lists to run run as he pleases. > > There are other options on the web. Is he running it? I haven't heard a peep from him throughout the d

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:24 AM, John Musbach wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Wallace Adrian > D'Alessio wrote: >> Talking about list rules and policies is not off topic. > > Except that it is, it belongs on the lemlists list but since that's > simply a blackhole where all complaints f

Re: [G3-5]Re: Help (Way OT)

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/16/09 3:17 AM, John Musbach at wrote: > I'm not sure how this is at all tech related, but I think wikipedia > can probably answer most of your questions about the sun: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun. I remember that circa 1995/1996, there were rumours that Sun would buy Apple. Time pa

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread John Musbach
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Talking about list rules and policies is not off topic. Except that it is, it belongs on the lemlists list but since that's simply a blackhole where all complaints fall to deaf ears no one posts there... Even the nannies would rat

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread John Musbach
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jim Scott wrote: > The "moderator" is a LEM list nanny and should know better than to > start an off-topic discussion on this list instead of the LEM List, > except that his desire to have things his way apparently is more > important than list rules, or protocol,

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread John Musbach
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: > What I don't understand, is why this thread is being discussed on this > list? There is a proper list for list issues. > > http://groups.google.com/group/lemlists?hl=en Oh please, that list is just where banned members go to cry into a b

Re: Help (Way OT)

2009-06-15 Thread John Musbach
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: > > Hi All... > > There are a lot of serious tech folk out there. Can someone with Sun > system experience contact me off-list? I'm not sure how this is at all tech related, but I think wikipedia can probably answer most of your questions about

Error in address

2009-06-15 Thread M. Hammad
Sorry. I meant to send an email to a specific member & used the wrong address. My apologies. Anyway the message doesn't mean much. It has no bearing on the subject. Mo Hammad San Diego, CA 92117 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you ar

Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/16/09 2:46 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at wrote: > Because you fully download before playing I assume your connection is > perhaps dial-up. No, it isn't -- it's a slow, 256kbps cable-modem connection... > Will the machine accept a full Gig of RAM? Close to this -- 768MB of RAM. > Bu

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-15 Thread M. Hammad
Good. I just tried to make a few copies. Already failed 2 out of 3. Lots of wasted media. Dual-layer is a real pain. Mohamad On Jun 15, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a > computer with a processor better than a G3

Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:14 AM, MaGioZal wrote: > > On 6/16/09 1:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at > wrote: > >> Assuming you need to stick with this machine my first suggestion is to >> max the RAM. >> >> You could also try adjusting caching if at all possible. You may also >> have virtual me

Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 card not recognizing iPod

2009-06-15 Thread Clark Martin
MaGioZal wrote: > On 6/16/09 1:44 AM, Clark Martin at wrote: > >> Beige G3s and B&Ws don't sleep. > > > What? But what happens when I hit the choice "sleep" trough the power buuton > of the keyboard? The display sleeps but not the computer. G4 towers and iMacs introduced computer sleep. --

Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 card not recognizing iPod

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/16/09 1:44 AM, Clark Martin at wrote: > Beige G3s and B&Ws don't sleep. What? But what happens when I hit the choice "sleep" trough the power buuton of the keyboard? -- MaGioZal. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You receiv

Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 card not recognizing iPod

2009-06-15 Thread Clark Martin
MaGioZal wrote: > On 6/16/09 1:13 AM, Clark Martin at wrote: > >> I've heard reports the NEC chipset doesn't have a problem but apparently >> that isn't (always) the case. > > > MmmmŠ wird. My G3 here also sleeps well. Better than me, in fact...:-P Beige G3s and B&Ws don't sleep. -- Clark

Re: New Java Update/Software Update Glitch

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 5:37 PM -0500 6/15/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: >There's a new Java Update today Just installed it. So far so good. (on Tiger) >, again, we're about a year and a half behind Windows/PC world. Pitiful. Apple should be ashamed. Bad enough that they're way behind on so many packages wrt bug f

Re: New Java Update/Software Update Glitch

2009-06-15 Thread Clark Martin
Kris Tilford wrote: > There's a new Java Update today, again, we're about a year and a half > behind Windows/PC world. > > I've been using Leopard on my PPC G5 since the beginning, and every > single time I use the "Install and Keep Package" option on Software > Update, and so far it almost

Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 card not recognizing iPod

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/16/09 1:13 AM, Clark Martin at wrote: > I've heard reports the NEC chipset doesn't have a problem but apparently > that isn't (always) the case. MmmmŠ wird. My G3 here also sleeps well. Better than me, in fact...:-P -- MaGioZal. --~--~-~--~

Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/16/09 1:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at wrote: > Assuming you need to stick with this machine my first suggestion is to > max the RAM. > > You could also try adjusting caching if at all possible. You may also > have virtual memory turned on which I believe may account for the > jerkines

Re: USB 2.0 card not recognizing iPod

2009-06-15 Thread Clark Martin
Herbert Goodfriend wrote: > About two years ago, I installed a new Adaptec 3200 series USB 2.0 > PCI card in my G4 MDD 2003 1.25GHz PowerMac. It worked fine with my > scanner but it did not always recognize my iPod (first the mini, then > the nano). It would recognize it immediately after the c

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamicky wrote: > Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, > including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm > save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari > 3.x. Horri

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a > computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's > because flash is a CPU hog. I've had some Pentium III PC laptops that were equivalent MHz to G3 and e

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-15 Thread Stephen Weber
I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. Stephen Weber On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamicky wrote: > Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any v

Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-15 Thread nestamicky
Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4

Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/15/09 11:27 PM, Dan at wrote: >> Where's the URL? > > See Kris' reply, posted 5 hours ago. Sorry, I read abou it after posting the reply... -- MaGioZal. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you ar

Re: [G3-5]Re: Where can I get a USB port capable of supporting my iPhone G4

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/15/09 9:18 PM, Bruce Johnson at wrote: >> and dose anyone know how to install it I just want to make my iphone >> work with my G4 > > I have a IOGear USB2 card in my G4; it works just fine. I have a generic NEC-chipped PCI-USB2 card here in my Beige and it works pretty fine, both in Mac

Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 11:15 PM -0300 6/15/2009, MaGioZal wrote: >On 6/15/09 12:33 PM, Dan at wrote: > >> Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also >> available on RPM's page. > >Where's the URL? See Kris' reply, posted 5 hours ago. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Ea

Re: [G3-5]Re: SATA card for a G4 AGP?

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/15/09 12:22 PM, Baha Ata at wrote: > Sonnet SATA cards... Look to ebay... You may look PCI Sonnet Sata cards...  > > There is some alternatives according to Chipsets but really some other experts > may give models (Pc models that work for Apple) for cheaper alternatives. Are the other "g

Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/15/09 12:33 PM, Dan at wrote: > Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also > available on RPM's page. Where's the URL? -- MaGioZal. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because yo

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread matt . strimple
I have the basic with DVD rom, I just realized that I need to study up wy more on MAC they are so neat, organized and smooth, my friend has the new iMac and I love it, soon after toting with his a little my aunt was moving out of her house,and GAVE ME her g4 witch was still in the bo

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread matt . strimple
Can you Sind the link for the x list? On Jun 15, 2009, at 7:12 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM, wrote: >> >> >> And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just >> wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger >> >> >

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread matt . strimple
Thanks, the G4 runs just fine without it ... Well better than fine, considering it's 7 years old! LOL . Tiger is just fine with me. Although as soon as I can get the cash for the mac mini, I will get it simply because I want to run dual boot for diabblo III. LOL On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:55 PM

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-15 Thread aussieshepsrock
Hi Adrian, good question re:Color Calibration's Usefulness To Me? It's easy to overlook the variable knowledge bases and interests of the list members in one's quest for assistance with a more narrow question. The "purpose" of my efforts at color matching is to: A: I want my 'pictures' to appe

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread Amanda Ward
Hi Matt... On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just Sorry... I can't imagine any way that could work. Best bet to get the Big Cat working would be a processor upgrade. The minimum requirement is 867 M

Re: Help (Way OT)

2009-06-15 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/15/09 5:18 PM, "Kyle Hansen" Broadcast into the ether: > > On 6/15/09 5:08 PM, "Amanda Ward" Broadcast into > the ether: > I am more Apple/Cisco, but I have some Sun knowledge. What's up. See even I make a mistakes. I am giving myself polite warning...done. OK...back to business. And

Re: G4 intenal hard drive upgrade

2009-06-15 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 15, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: >>> >>> >> >> [ * ] It's called Overdrive. >> >> http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/29409 >> >> >> >> >> > 404 error - not found TRY: http://mac.profusehost.net/overdrive/index.html Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonsto

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > > On 6/15/09 3:32 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" > Broadcast into the ether: > >> Perhaps you would like to spend the time Kyle and other Nannies have >> to keep the lists civilized. >> It is a rather thankless job. > > OMG.  Did I really see

Re: Where can I get a USB port capable of supporting my iPhone G4

2009-06-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 15, 2009, at 3:41 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > > and dose anyone know how to install it I just want to make my iphone > work with my G4 I have a IOGear USB2 card in my G4; it works just fine. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Grou

Re: Help (Way OT)

2009-06-15 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/15/09 5:08 PM, "Amanda Ward" Broadcast into the ether: > > Hi All... > > There are a lot of serious tech folk out there. Can someone with Sun > system experience contact me off-list? > > Many thanks and an apology! > > Amanda I am more Apple/Cisco, but I have some Sun knowledge. What'

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > > > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger No. Leopard WILL run just fine on any Mac G4 that was originally 867 Mhz or better; and there are ways of getting

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread PeterH
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger Which G4? There are basically two: 1) the 100 MHz bus G4 (Gigabit Ethernet, and earlier models), and 2) the 133 MHz b

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/15/09 4:45 PM, "Amanda Ward" Broadcast into the ether: > ... armed with torches and pitchforks. ;-) They always are. I try to be the nicest I can be but sometimes I come off wrong. It will all be answered by Dan Knight. But suffice it to say there is one very important advantage to bott

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM, wrote: > > > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger > > __ Check the archive of the past year. This was a hot issue when Leopard came out

Help (Way OT)

2009-06-15 Thread Amanda Ward
Hi All... There are a lot of serious tech folk out there. Can someone with Sun system experience contact me off-list? Many thanks and an apology! Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a grou

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread glen
> > In private communications where two or no more than a few parties are > sharing ideas or discussing a subject, such as buying/selling an item > or agreeing to meet at a certain place/time, etc., untrimmed top > posting works very well because it is easier and quicker and acts much >

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread Jim Scott
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: > And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just > wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger You cannot put an Intel processor in your G4, for a lot of reasons. Here are Apple's system requirements for Leopard,

Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-15 Thread matt . strimple
And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Ma

Where can I get a USB port capable of supporting my iPhone G4

2009-06-15 Thread matt . strimple
and dose anyone know how to install it I just want to make my iphone work with my G4 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular foc

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Amanda Ward
On Jun 15, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > > On 6/15/09 2:52 PM, "Jim Scott" Broadcast into > the > ether: > >> The "moderator" is a LEM list nanny and should know better than to >> start an off-topic discussion on this list instead of the LEM List, >> except that his desire to have th

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/15/09 3:32 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" Broadcast into the ether: > Perhaps you would like to spend the time Kyle and other Nannies have > to keep the lists civilized. > It is a rather thankless job. OMG. Did I really see that? Thank you Wallace. We delete trolls and spamers and spend

Re: G4 intenal hard drive upgrade

2009-06-15 Thread PeterH
On Jun 15, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: >> >> [ * ] It's called Overdrive. >> >> http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/29409 >> > 404 error - not found > I had absolutely NO trouble finding it. Perhaps you should use Google on "Overdrive" or another search key. --~--~-~

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/15/09 2:52 PM, "Jim Scott" Broadcast into the ether: > The "moderator" is a LEM list nanny and should know better than to > start an off-topic discussion on this list instead of the LEM List, > except that his desire to have things his way apparently is more > important than list rules, or

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/15/09 12:32 PM, "Dan" Broadcast into the ether: > Sometimes it's not location location location so much as audience > audience audience. > > The lem list lem list is all but dead... > > - Dan. Beat me to it again...I just got home...dangit. There are more active members here...that's

Re: G4 intenal hard drive upgrade

2009-06-15 Thread Charles Lenington
PeterH wrote: > On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:34 PM, PeterH wrote: > > >> Three options, none of which require a PCI card: >> >> 1) Intech's "High Cap" extension, >> >> 2) the open-source (free) extension which does the same thing, and >> < [ * ] >> >> 3) the LBA48 property strings which

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Charles Davis
On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Jim Scott wrote: snip > > > The "moderator" is a LEM list nanny and should know better than to > start an off-topic discussion on this list instead of the LEM List, > except that his desire to have things his way apparently is more > important than list rules, or prot

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Jim Scott
On Jun 15, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jim Scott wrote: >> >> The "moderator" is a LEM list nanny and should know better than to >> start an off-topic discussion on this list instead of the LEM List, >> except that his desire to have things

New Java Update/Software Update Glitch

2009-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
There's a new Java Update today, again, we're about a year and a half behind Windows/PC world. I've been using Leopard on my PPC G5 since the beginning, and every single time I use the "Install and Keep Package" option on Software Update, and so far it almost never saves the package. The on

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Jim Scott wrote: > > > The "moderator" is a LEM list nanny and should know better than to > start an off-topic discussion on this list instead of the LEM List, > except that his desire to have things his way apparently is more > important than list rules, or prot

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Jim Scott
On Jun 15, 2009, at 1:47 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: > > No, the *original* thread was closed by the "moderator" who promptly > started this thread... > > JT > > > > > Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: >> I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator? >> The "moderator" is a LEM list nanny

Re: G4 intenal hard drive upgrade

2009-06-15 Thread PeterH
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:34 PM, PeterH wrote: > Three options, none of which require a PCI card: > > 1) Intech's "High Cap" extension, > > 2) the open-source (free) extension which does the same thing, and > < [ * ] > > 3) the LBA48 property strings which are semi-permanently added to

Re: G4 intenal hard drive upgrade

2009-06-15 Thread PeterH
On Jun 15, 2009, at 1:41 PM, nestamicky wrote: > Unless you have a PCI card, or get the ?Highcap text? software, > you'd be limited to 128 GB. Three options, none of which require a PCI card: 1) Intech's "High Cap" extension, 2) the open-source (free) extension which does the same thing, an

USB 2.0 card not recognizing iPod

2009-06-15 Thread Herbert Goodfriend
About two years ago, I installed a new Adaptec 3200 series USB 2.0 PCI card in my G4 MDD 2003 1.25GHz PowerMac. It worked fine with my scanner but it did not always recognize my iPod (first the mini, then the nano). It would recognize it immediately after the computer was booted up; after that

Re: G4 intenal hard drive upgrade

2009-06-15 Thread nestamicky
joan wrote: > Would love some suggestions on what to get to upgrade my 867 Power PC > G4. We just added more memory and have 2 GB. The Bus speed is 133 MHz > and I'm using 10.4.11. We have external LaCie and Maxtor hard drives > but would like to beef up the G4 itself. > > thanks, > joan > > > U

Re: G4 intenal hard drive upgrade

2009-06-15 Thread PeterH
On Jun 15, 2009, at 1:13 PM, joan wrote: > Would love some suggestions on what to get to upgrade my 867 Power PC > G4. We just added more memory and have 2 GB. The Bus speed is 133 MHz > and I'm using 10.4.11. We have external LaCie and Maxtor hard drives > but would like to beef up the G4 itsel

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread James E. Therrault
No, the *original* thread was closed by the "moderator" who promptly started this thread... JT Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator? > > Also, GMail's reply function makes top posting, however annoying it > may be to some people, but it is the d

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread trag
On Jun 15, 10:33 am, "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" wrote: > I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator? > > Also, GMail's reply function makes top posting, however annoying it > may be to some people, but it is the default action, and I have not > been able to figure out how to make it run o

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 3:08 PM -0500 6/15/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: >On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:32 PM, nestamicky wrote: > >> Do you have a link, Dan? d'oh. I can't believe I left it out. :( Sorry 'bout that. > Thx Kris. Addendum: The file service that RPM is using has set their s

G4 intenal hard drive upgrade

2009-06-15 Thread joan
Would love some suggestions on what to get to upgrade my 867 Power PC G4. We just added more memory and have 2 GB. The Bus speed is 133 MHz and I'm using 10.4.11. We have external LaCie and Maxtor hard drives but would like to beef up the G4 itself. thanks, joan --~--~-~--~~--

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:32 PM, nestamicky wrote: > Do you have a link, Dan? Here's a link, but honestly, you should learn to use Google. I'd never heard of this before, and it took me 10 seconds to find the link. So you'll know, I searched the terms: rpm optimized seamonkey. It wasn't the 1s

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread joan
a link or just what is "RPM"s page"? On Jun 15, 1:32 pm, nestamicky wrote: > Dan wrote: > > > Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also > > available on RPM's page. > > Do you have a link, Dan? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread nestamicky
Dan wrote: > > Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also > available on RPM's page. > > Do you have a link, Dan? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3

Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

2009-06-15 Thread PeterH
On Jun 15, 2009, at 12:18 PM, insightinmind wrote: > Just for the main hard drive connection: > > So it is NOT ok to use the UltraATA cable (Space Shuttle-D, Cd & Pb > Free, 80wire/40pin) supplied in a Retail Box Kit along with a Seagate > UltraATA drive as the cable off the Apple mobo, because

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 2:13 PM -0500 6/15/2009, Charles Lenington wrote: >Dante Armok wrote: > > No, the other thread was closed. This is supposed to be the >> constructive discussion. >> >What I don't understand, is why this thread is being discussed on this >list? There is a proper list for list issues. > >http

Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

2009-06-15 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:44 PM, PeterH wrote: > On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:49 AM, insightinmind wrote: > >> Funny ... the top of the Seagate drives say use Cable Select for its >> Ultra ATA drive ... but one of Apple's docs says Cable Select won't >> work for Ultra ATAs in the Quicksilver 2002 and other

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Jim Scott
On Jun 15, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: > > Dante Armok wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) >> mailto:shadowhun...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >>I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator? >> >> >> No, the other thread was closed. This is s

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Charles Lenington
Dante Armok wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) > mailto:shadowhun...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator? > > > No, the other thread was closed. This is supposed to be the > constructive discussion. > What I don't und

Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

2009-06-15 Thread PeterH
On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:49 AM, insightinmind wrote: > Funny ... the top of the Seagate drives say use Cable Select for its > Ultra ATA drive ... but one of Apple's docs says Cable Select won't > work for Ultra ATAs in the Quicksilver 2002 and other G4s ... and to > not use the Apple supplied cable

Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 12:49 PM -0400 6/15/2009, insightinmind wrote: > >Funny ... the top of the Seagate drives say use Cable Select for its >Ultra ATA drive ... but one of Apple's docs says Cable Select won't >work for Ultra ATAs in the Quicksilver 2002 and other G4s ... and to >not use the Apple supplied cable

Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

2009-06-15 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 15, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 10:09 AM -0400 6/15/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: >> My Seagate PATA 750GB drive (an Ultra ATA drive) has dropped out >> from >> time to time off my mobo IDE channel, and it has brought up the >> question of should I be using CS Mode or change it t

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread irrational john
On Jun 15, 12:35 pm, Dan wrote: > Normal text editing shortcuts work, eg: cmd-downarrow. > > I strongly recommend leaving the mail client set to put you at the > top tho.  That way you can easily TRIM as you move down thru the > message.  If the client starts you at the bottom, then you probably

Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

2009-06-15 Thread dc
On Jun 15, 10:09 am, Bill Connelly wrote: > My Seagate PATA 750GB  drive (an Ultra ATA drive) has dropped out from   > time to time off my mobo IDE channel, and it has brought up the   > question of should I be using CS Mode or change it to Master / Slave   > (Master, since I only have one drive)

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 12:23 PM -0400 6/15/2009, John Martz wrote: >On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Dan wrote: >>>Also, GMail's reply function makes top posting, however annoying it >>>may be to some people, but it is the default action, and I have not >>>been able to figure out how to make it run otherwise. > >>I'

Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 10:09 AM -0400 6/15/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: >My Seagate PATA 750GB drive (an Ultra ATA drive) has dropped out from >time to time off my mobo IDE channel, and it has brought up the >question of should I be using CS Mode or change it to Master / Slave >(Master, since I only have one drive)

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread John Martz
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Dante Armok wrote: > Also, GMail's reply function makes top posting, however annoying it >> may be to some people, but it is the default action, and I have not >> been able to figure out how to make it run otherwise. > > > I'm in GMail's web interface right now.

Re: SATA card for a G4 AGP?

2009-06-15 Thread dc
Interesting, I thought the Sonnet cards were simply re-branded Firmtek cards, but I don't remember where I heard that... maybe there you had some other problem? Anyway I have Firmtek SATA cards in my MDD and G5 PPC and they work fine. The MDD is booting from a single SATA drive and the PPC G5 is b

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Dante Armok
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > > I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator? No, the other thread was closed. This is supposed to be the constructive discussion. > Also, GMail's reply function makes top posting, however annoying it > may be to some

Re: SATA card for a G4 AGP?

2009-06-15 Thread Mike Baker
I have a G4 Sawtooth that i put a 1.5 Mhz processor in and had a miserable experience with a FirmTek controller card. I replaced it with a Sonnet (Sonnet Tempo Serial ATA 2-Port Internal Serial ATA PCI Card) and it worked right away with my 500 GB SATA hard drive. --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Baha At

Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
RPM has posted her builds of the latest Firefox 3.0.11. Note that the Moz developers have finally updated the app names, so they build correctly. Only official builds are allowed to use the Firefox name. All others, like these 3rd party optimized builds, are required to use the code names.

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator? Also, GMail's reply function makes top posting, however annoying it may be to some people, but it is the default action, and I have not been able to figure out how to make it run otherwise. Sorry for the inconvenience. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-15 Thread trag
On Jun 14, 4:48 am, "Gary D." wrote: > Why don't we just break up the group into two groups, one for top > posters and one for bottom posters and than everybody will be happy. > Or maybe not. (sorry) I would be happy because I neither read nor respond to top posters anyway. The exception to

Re: SATA card for a G4 AGP?

2009-06-15 Thread Baha Ata
Sonnet SATA cards... Look to ebay... You may look PCI Sonnet Sata cards... There is some alternatives according to Chipsets but really some other experts may give models (Pc models that work for Apple) for cheaper alternatives. 2009/6/15 joe > Just looking at harddrive prices for larger drives

Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-15 Thread Dan
At 1:53 AM -0300 6/15/2009, MaGioZal wrote: >On 6/14/09 1:47 PM, tonycd at wrote: > > Do I remember correctly that Safari 4 and Camino use a similar >> underlying engine? > >No... Camino uses the same engine as Firefox, but its interface and some >resources are Cocoa-based. Safari uses the engi

SATA card for a G4 AGP?

2009-06-15 Thread joe
Just looking at harddrive prices for larger drives, it seems that it might be worth my while to get a SATA controller card. I don't know anything about them, though. Is there anything in particular I should look for? Can I buy any SATA card, or does it have to specify "for Mac"? TIA, Joe

Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

2009-06-15 Thread Bill Connelly
My Seagate PATA 750GB drive (an Ultra ATA drive) has dropped out from time to time off my mobo IDE channel, and it has brought up the question of should I be using CS Mode or change it to Master / Slave (Master, since I only have one drive). I have a similar setup in my Digital Audio Dual

Re: [G3-5]Re: Upgrading an old G3

2009-06-15 Thread MaGioZal
Hey! I'e forgot an important tip about installing Tiger on G3's that just have the onboard video: BEFORE running XPostFacto and BEFORE running the Toger installer, INSTALL Mac OS Jaguar 10.2, then update to 10.2.8, and then REMOVE the damned ATI driver that does not function well. After these st