Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: Previously, Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. Paul Stamsen replied: No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! Nope! We wan

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 12, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: Previously, Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. Paul Stamsen replied: No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! Nope! We want to party like it's 1999 again.

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On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > Previously, Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: >>> The thing must've had terrible gas milage. >>> >> >> Paul Stamsen replied: >> >> No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! >> > > Nope! We want to party like it's 1999 again. > < > http

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Previously, at 9:40 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: >It is a problem when you live in Texas. When you are driving down I-10 and in >the >middle of nowhere there are gas stations every 100+ miles. I didn't that then and I'm sure as heck surprised now! Rural Michigan had a

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On Dec 12, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Dan wrote: > At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: >> >> Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. >> Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... > > ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing >

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

Previously, Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. Paul Stamsen replied: No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! Nope! We want to party like it's 1999 again.

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It is a problem when you live in Texas. When you are driving down I-10 and in the middle of nowhere there are gas stations every 100+ miles. On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > Previously, at 4:33 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: >> The thing must've had ter

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T ANY DOUBT AT ALL, about 20KV does fry things close to them keys and oh my that did hurt, but no apparent damages since I got 4 kids. JML. === --- On Sat, 12/11/10, ah...clem wrote: From: ah...clem Subject: Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service To: "G-Group"

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

Previously, at 4:33 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: >The thing must've had terrible gas milage. No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a

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Since this was the time when gas in California was 14.9 cents per gallon, we didn't really pay much attention to the mileage a vehicle got. On 12/12/2010 5:33 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: It was an old Ma Be

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The thing must've had terrible gas milage. On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: > On 12/12/2010 1:34 PM, James Therrault wrote: >> My father once pulled the Number 1 plug wire from our '49 Dodge truck and >> plugged in my finger to the wire and started the truck. I still remember >

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On 12/12/2010 1:34 PM, James Therrault wrote: My father once pulled the Number 1 plug wire from our '49 Dodge truck and plugged in my finger to the wire and started the truck. I still remember the look on his face when he grabbed the door handle, not realizing that I had my other hand on the f

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(in which case a highly improbable death by electric shock would just be one small victory for evolution) Ah-clem, I'm starting to enjoy you. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Pow

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On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: On 12/12/2010 10:42 AM, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of curr

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On 12/12/2010 10:42 AM, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Pe

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 12, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:42 AM -0600 12/12/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current...

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

At 10:42 AM -0600 12/12/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

At 8:20 PM -0600 12/11/2010, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... ROFLMAO. Arg, 'tis a nice tingle. (Down Periscope - the radio guy providing power to the system thru his body). I still have scars

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On 12/11/2010 9:44 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: It only takes 50milliamps. That isn't a lot as it is. Actually it takes about 500 milliamps. See this page: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_3/4.html The resistance of dry skin is about 1 megaohm and the crt usually has about 25,000 volt

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 11, 9:44 pm, Dennis Myhand wrote: > > Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort.   > > Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... > > JT > > It only takes 50milliamps.  That isn't a lot as it is. wrong again. 50 mA causes no more than discomfort. it requires a sustai

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On 12/11/2010 8:20 PM, James Therrault wrote: Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort. Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current... JT It only takes 50milliamps. That isn't a lot as it is. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for

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On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I just finished successfully replacing a hard drive in a 1.42GHZ eMac. I'm still alive, and it didn't take me very long. I got to thinking about the suggestion of bleeding the electricity out of the monitor, and I realized that you are more

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I just finished successfully replacing a hard drive in a 1.42GHZ eMac. I'm still alive, and it didn't take me very long. I got to thinking about the suggestion of bleeding the electricity out of the monitor, and I realized that you are more likely to get zapped doing that than just replacing the ha

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OK then, to finish it off my 2¢ worth :-) If your car got hit by lightning, it will probably hold a charge. But you can drive it close to a lamppost or something, and open the door a bit to just touch that thing. That should discharge the car, and you have saved Sparky’s life!!! -- You received t

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

At 4:28 PM -0800 12/2/2010, Clark Martin wrote: The tires are not made of pure rubber. They are made from a blend of rubber, synthetics, metallics, etc. Then there are those pesky steel belts. IOW, your tires are *great* conductors. They are (luckily!) NOT insulators. Incorrect, tires are

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:05 AM, Ted Treen wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Yersinia wrote: > On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: >> > > Yesh. Personally, I think I'll just stay indoors during a thunder-and-lightning storm! :-O Hiding under the bed might offer even more "se

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From: James Therrault To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 3 December, 2010 2:19:22 Subject: Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Yersinia wrote: > On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: >> &g

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On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > Previously, at 11:24 PM -0500 12/2/10, as Isaac Smith so eloquently wrote: >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: >> >>> Isn't this waaay off-topic? >> >> It's just in the wrong list, but understandably so, since the G3-5 list is

Re: Changing the subject: WAS: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

Previously, at 11:24 PM -0500 12/2/10, as Isaac Smith so eloquently wrote: >On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > >> Isn't this waaay off-topic? > >It's just in the wrong list, but understandably so, since the G3-5 list is the >largest and very few people read the iMac/eMac list. Thi

Re: Changing the subject: WAS: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > Isn't this waaay off-topic? It's just in the wrong list, but understandably so, since the G3-5 list is the largest and very few people read the iMac/eMac list. This is the better list to get a response, even if it's the wrong one. Isaac -- Y

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Isn't this waaay off-topic? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendm

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designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway" --- On Thu, 12/2/10, Yersinia wrote: From: Yersinia Subject: Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 5:10 PM On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Yersinia wrote: On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: a minor wise point here - if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to fall on the c

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: a minor wise point here - if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to fall on the car and you can see sparks outside -- DO NOT MOV

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 2, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: a minor wise point here - if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to fall on the car and you can see sparks outside -- DO NOT MOVE, DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR - you are in

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On Dec 2, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Dan wrote: > At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: >> a minor wise point here - >> >> if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to >> fall on the car and you can see sparks outside -- DO NOT MOVE, DO NOT GET >> OUT OF YOUR CAR

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At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: a minor wise point here - if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to fall on the car and you can see sparks outside -- DO NOT MOVE, DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR - you are in no real danger provided your not a part of

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Thunder 1 wrote: > It was suggested here that you put the new drive in a box and use it > as an external drive; I agree that would be a good approach. At the very > least, you could copy all your files to it and then delete the stuff that is > filling up the intern

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On Dec 1, 5:09 pm, Tom wrote: > My sister-in-law has a G4 eMac that came with a 40-gig drive, which > has filled up. The computer is perfectly functional, though, and > serves all her needs; she just needs more storage room. > > So, I called the local Apple store (in Albuquerque) to see if they'd

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of the CRT. If the voltage goes to low to arc, turn the Mac on for a minute to recharge the power and continue fishing. Have fun, JML --- On Wed, 12/1/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: From: Bruce Johnson Subject: Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date

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On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Tom wrote: My sister-in-law has a G4 eMac that came with a 40-gig drive, which has filled up. The computer is perfectly functional, though, and serves all her needs; she just needs more storage room. I bought a 500-gig drive for her from OWC and intended to replace

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At 4:09 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Tom wrote: My sister-in-law has a G4 eMac that came with a 40-gig drive Great machine! A wonderful workhorse! I bought a 500-gig drive for her from OWC and intended to replace the old one with the new. Then on searching for instructions to swap out the drive onlin

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On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Tom wrote: > > > So, I called the local Apple store (in Albuquerque) to see if they'd > put the drive in for me, and was told that "we don't service older > Macs. And that one is even dangerous to open up." > > Well, thanks for nothing, Apple. Just how new does a M

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On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Tom wrote: I bought a 500-gig drive for her from OWC and intended to replace the old one with the new. Then on searching for instructions to swap out the drive online, I find numerous warnings that this is not a Mac intended for owners to open up. I just replaced a

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Tom wrote: > My sister-in-law has a G4 eMac that came with a 40-gig drive, which > has filled up. The computer is perfectly functional, though, and > serves all her needs; she just needs more storage room. > > I bought a 500-gig drive for her from OWC and intended to

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Tom wrote: > My sister-in-law has a G4 eMac that came with a 40-gig drive, which > has filled up. The computer is perfectly functional, though, and > serves all her needs; she just needs more storage room. > > I bought a 500-gig drive for her from OWC and intended to

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On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Tom wrote: > And do you really build computers so dangerous that even an Apple tech > is afraid to open it up? Yes, large CRT's can be very dangerous to work on. Televisions, monitors and all-in-one systems like the eMac need special precautions to be taken. This ha

Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

My sister-in-law has a G4 eMac that came with a 40-gig drive, which has filled up. The computer is perfectly functional, though, and serves all her needs; she just needs more storage room. I bought a 500-gig drive for her from OWC and intended to replace the old one with the new. Then on searching