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From: James Therrault <jetas...@netzero.com>
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 3 December, 2010 2:19:22
Subject: Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service


On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Yersinia wrote:

>  On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Dan wrote:
>> 
>>> At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote:
>>>> a minor wise point here -
>>>> 
>>>> if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to 
>>>> fall 
>>>>on the car and you can see sparks outside -- DO NOT MOVE, DO NOT GET OUT OF 
>>>>YOUR 
>>>>CAR - you are in no real danger provided your not a part of the ELECTRIC 
>>>>CIRCUIT
>>> 
>>> Correct.
>>> 
>>>> - the metal of your car is ELECTRIFIED but the tires will prevent it from 
>>>>burning since they act as a nice insulator.
>>> 
>>> Incorrect.  The tires are not made of pure rubber.  They are made from a 
>>> blend 
>>>of rubber, synthetics, metallics, etc.  Then there are those pesky steel 
>>>belts.  
>>>IOW, your tires are *great* conductors. They are (luckily!) NOT insulators.
>>> 
>>> You don't get electrocuted, as long as you're inside the car, because the 
>>>current is passing thru the metal chassis, thru the tires, to ground.  Some 
>>>of 
>>>the current is going thru you, but it's a trivial amount, as electricity 
>>>prefers 
>>>the better route - thru the tires to ground.
>> 
>> It might be worth mentioning that the car acts as a Faraday (sp?) box 
>> whereas 
>>most of the voltage/current remains on the outer perimeter.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> The way out of this is NOT TO STEP OUT as that will complete the 
>>>> electrical 
>>>>circuit and you will be toast.
>>> 
>>> Correct.  If you were to step out of the car, while still in contact with 
>>> the 
>>>chasis, then the current would use you as the better route to ground.  That 
>>>would be bad.
>>> 
>>>> BUT if you can jump out BEING SURE YOUR TOTALLY IN THE AIR then you can 
>>>> exit 
>>>>the car with no problems.
>>> 
>>> But to take that flying leap...  Current jumps at the rate of about 10,000 
>>>volts per inch.  You better clear the car completely, *and* all the wet 
>>>pavement, by quite a bit...  This is totally not recommended.  The best 
>>>thing to 
>>>do is just sit tight until the power is turned off.
> 
> Yeeeeesh. Personally, I think I'll just stay indoors during a 
>thunder-and-lightning storm!  :-O


Hiding under the bed might offer even more "security."

JT



_But what about the monsters that lurk under the bed?

(I know it's true - I read it in "Calvin & Hobbes)

Ted

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