Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! - Data rescue

2011-04-13 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 13-04-2011 18:59, Bill Connelly ha scritto: > I'd be careful about running Norton under OS 9 on an OS X > partition ... No no no! That's obvious... :-D On my HD I have five partitions, the first has OSX system and apps on it, the others contain data or OS9 apps (and they come from a pr

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! - Data rescue

2011-04-13 Thread Bill Connelly
On Apr 13, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: So, if you happen to erase your disk(s), the old rules still apply: DON'T write anything on that disk, and try to run a data rescue tool (like Data Rescue on OSX, or Norton Unerase in OS9) as soon as possible. You may be lucky. ;-) I'd

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! - Data rescue

2011-04-13 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 13-04-2011 0:59, Valter Prahlad ha scritto: > Now I'll try some data rescue utility... even if I'm not much hopeful. Well, it went better than I thought. I had two partitions with some data "lost" (i.e. non backed up) in them; one was untouched after partitioning from Disk Utility, on t

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-12 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 12-04-2011 21:28, Kris Tilford ha scritto: > Your mistake was using a Tiger DVD, you need Disk Utility from Leopard > in order to have "non-destructive" partitioning capability. Oh! Now I know it... ;-) Andreas (and maybe someone else) mentioned using Leopard's Disk Utility... but nobody

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-12 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Tuesday, 12. April 2011 From:Valter Prahlad To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Il giorno 9-04-2011 10:08, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: > >> But... now I'm afraid that partiti

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-12 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: I booted from the Tiger DVD, went to Disk Utility, set up the "free space" into MacOS format, hit "Partition" button... and all my data was gone! :-((( (to be honest, Disk Utility informed me that it would happen) Your mistake was using a

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-12 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 9-04-2011 10:08, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: >> But... now I'm afraid that partitioning the "new" disk area could alter the >> existing partitions (I like them, I already have 5 partitions on my boot >> disk :-). >> I know it shouldn't happen... > > It won't happen. It did happen! I

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-11 Thread Mac User #330250
MISTAKE: > I don't know, but mine has Boot-ROM 4.2.1f2 and is a Quicksilver from 2001 > without the LBA-48 property. My Boot-ROM version is 4.2.5f1. Yet another one. Mac OS X 10.4/10.5 reports (German language) Boot-ROM-Version: 4.2.5f1 Mac OS 9.2.2 reports ROM revision:

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-11 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Monday, 11. April 2011 From:Kris Tilford To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: > > So, what would happen if one would flash the ROM of a

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-11 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: So, what would happen if one would flash the ROM of a QS with the Open Firmware ROM version of a QS2002? This is interesting. Apple apparently never released any firmware updates for any models of the QS, but I see versions 4.2.1f2, 4.3.3

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-11 Thread t...@io.com
On Apr 8, 10:27 pm, Clark Martin wrote: > PCI-ATA cards have been and are pricey $60-100 and more for cards with > greater functionality.   The Acard 6280M is available on Ebay for $30 with free shipping. The Acard 6880M is $40. (No knowledge of, nor relationship with the sellers.)Both o

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-09 Thread peterhaas
> Whether you use the LBA48 technique, or buy a PCI ATA/IDE card, the > extra space still hasn't been mapped out by the OS. I believe it all > has to be linked together at the initial partitioning time as well. A PCI card necessarily models the HD as SCSI. There have been these versions of the s

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-09 Thread Bill Connelly
On Apr 9, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 6-04-2011 20:47, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. No. Actually, it does. :-) (I'm on a PowerMac G4 DA

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-09 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Thursday, 07. April 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > 1) The magic number is 131,072 megabytes. Partitions must be wholly below > the 131,072 megabyte "

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-09 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Saturday, 09. April 2011 From:Valter Prahlad To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > >> I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think > >> Disk Utility

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 6-04-2011 20:47, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: >> I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk >> Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. > > No. Actually, it does. :-) (I'm on a PowerMac G4 DA with 10.4.11 - 250MB WD HD) After using the scr

Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 9-04-2011 4:46, MaGioZal ha scritto: > I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a > PCI-ATA card and attach the "> 128GB" HD to it? Well, it could be. But, what if... - The Mac has no PCI slot? (Or no free slot) - Owner doesn't want to open the computer? -

Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread Clark Martin
On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:46 PM, MaGioZal wrote: > I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a > PCI-ATA card and attach the "> 128GB" HD to it? PCI-ATA cards have been and are pricey $60-100 and more for cards with greater functionality. It's cheaper to go SATA. I thin

Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread Yersinia
On 4/8/11 10:46 PM, MaGioZal wrote: I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the "> 128GB" HD to it? Actually that's what I did when I bought two internal 250 GB HDDs for my G4 Quicksilver 867 but I haven't actually asked my boyfriend

Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-08 Thread MaGioZal
I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the "> 128GB" HD to it? -- MaGioZal. On 4/6/11 6:43 PM, Paul Stamsen at wrote: > Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so eloquently > wrot

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-07 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Thursday, 07. April 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > 1) The magic number is 131,072 megabytes. Partitions must be wholly below > the 131,072 megabyte "

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-07 Thread peterhaas
[ Excellent summary snipped ] > I hope this isn't too complicated. (I tend to write too much.) > > Just remember this: Using the LBA48 property on a Mac that doesn't support > it > (without hacking), ALWAYS end and start your paritions at 128 GB! > > Because then it won't see anything at all of t

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-07 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Wednesday, 06. April 2011 From:Paul Stamsen To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so eloquently > wrote: (snip) > > >>

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread peterhaas
> Power Mac G4 AGP "Sawtooth" 1.0 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 1 each SATA (750 GB) & > PATA (160 GB) hard drives, gigabit ethernet & USB 2.0, ATI Radeon 9800 > Pro, Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 & Leopard 10.5.8 Try for an Initio-based SATA card. These are (or were) sold by LaCie, OWC and possibly others. Some are

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Sean Carroll
Oh, Man! I never knew this! :-o If I only had knew it before... I have a 250GB HD now, using only the first 128GB (of course)... and quite full. Last December, when I was still a complete hardware ignoramus, I faced a situation where replacing one or both of my 40 GB HDs seemed a very urg

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so eloquently wrote: (snip) >> The chief danger in that script is that if you do an OF reset you >> will lose access to the part of the drive above 128Gb until you >> re-activate the script. Sorry, I missed that. How again? >No danger i

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Wednesday, 06. April 2011 From:Valter Prahlad To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Woah! :-o > So it isn't an hardware limitation (as I always had thought)... No. It's an Open Firmware

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Wednesday, 06. April 2011 From:Clark Martin To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: … > Activating the patch will make the remainder of

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Wednesday, 06. April 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > My QS 2001 eventually received a QS 2002 motherboard and dual 1.0 GHz > processor from an LEM buy, so

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Clark Martin
On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:44 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:22 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. Will I be able to partition and format that portion and usin

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Bill Connelly
On Apr 6, 2011, at 1:22 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. Will I be able to partition and format that portion and using it, WITHOUT DAMAGING the already existing parti

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread peterhaas
> The chief danger in that script is that if you do an OF reset you > will lose access to the part of the drive above 128Gb until you > re-activate the script. If you keep your current 128Gb partition that will > still be available, just any new partition you create will not be > available. You mi

Re: Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-06 Thread Clark Martin
On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: > Oh, Man! I never knew this! :-o > If I only had knew it before... I have a 250GB HD now, using only the first > 128GB (of course)... and quite full. > > I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk > Utility will t

Using HD > 128GB in G4 Macs!

2011-04-05 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 6-04-2011 1:42, peterh...@cruzio.com ha scritto: >> Speaking of LBA48... Yellow Dog Linux and Debian Linux both report and use >> the full 250 GB (because that is the size of my HD) in my QS 2001. But Mac >> OS 10.5 sees it as a 128 GB drive. Woah! :-o So it isn't an hardware limitation