Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game

2010-05-22 Thread Muhammed Deniz
@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game Hi Shaun, Actually--JAWS should not be a problem, as thatis how I run it and it works like a charm. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers

[Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game

2010-05-21 Thread Mária Orovčíková
Greetings, I am asking this question for my friend because she has had her internet connection unavailable for quite long and she has not been able to read e-mails for a while. She has a problem with horse racing game. When she tries to run the game, jaws freezes, or when she deactivates jaws,

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game

2010-05-21 Thread michael barnes
that is the same problem that i had with the game myself. so someone tell us what to do. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game

2010-05-21 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I have never run it with jaws. tell your friend to run the config for it then set it to sapi. next set a shortcut to it then exit jaws and run it that way. that should work. on that note I have had my net down for a couple weeks myself, not good! At 12:18 a.m. 22/05/2010, you wrote:

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game

2010-05-21 Thread michael barnes
hey shawn i have done all this myself. but it still won't work. it acts like it going to run but all it does is bring up a window and do nothing. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game

2010-05-21 Thread shaun everiss
weird. something is mangled somewhere then. not sure what to do. windows needs a good reload or something. issue is there is no actual support since lti is no more. hey shawn i have done all this myself. but it still won't work. it acts like it going to run but all it does is bring up a

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game

2010-05-21 Thread Hayden Presley
Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game hmmm I have never run it with jaws. tell your friend to run the config for it then set it to sapi. next set a shortcut to it then exit jaws and run it that way. that should work. on that note I have had my net down for a couple weeks

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-22 Thread shaun everiss
:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early 90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware synths were the best around

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-22 Thread dark
Well rather you than me on the robot front there sean. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing well

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-22 Thread Muhammed Deniz
To be onnist, elequnts goes in to talks as well. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 22 April 2010 00:54 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, It's better

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-22 Thread Hayden Presley
] problem with horse racing To be onnist, elequnts goes in to talks as well. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 22 April 2010 00:54 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
I must confess I do agreee, Now that I've got scansoft daniel, sapi for games, even highly complex ones like entombed or time of conflict works great. Then again it seems heavily dependent upon voice. That was one of the chief reasons the screen reader speech business got added to

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
- From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing That's one thing I like about Window-Eyes. It can still be running when a game is in progress because it doesn't monopolize the keyboard the way JFW does. And you don't even have to modify either the game

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I must confess I do agreee, Now that I've got scansoft daniel, sapi for games, even highly complex ones like entombed or time of conflict works great. Then again it seems heavily dependent upon

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing As I said Bryan, I've been doing this in Hal for ages, in games or indeed when watching dvd's sinse I can just flick Hal's voice off and use the standard power dvd

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Jaws is cool! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 05:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing That's one thing I like about Window-Eyes. It can

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Muhammed Deniz
- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 21 April 2010 04:32 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Muhammed Deniz
every 5 minutes. Off corse, I didn't have much of a computer nollige then. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 April 2010 08:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread michael barnes
i disagree about jaws. i love system access because it is the only program that will let you use julie which is a realistic voice. with sapi you can download paul which is a realistic voice. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Jaws is cool! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 05:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration manager in jaws

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing i disagree about jaws. i love system access because it is the only program that will let

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing You could also turn off hal by pressing the control and the 0 key. I haven't used hal for a while, because that was on my brothers win 98

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Well I think, you could create a function by jaws scripting. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 17:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing See

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Well I think, you could create a function by jaws scripting. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow view of the world that's for sure. I remember calling them about wanting to support the Dectalk 5 Software produced by Phonix. They are like, Why do you want to do that?

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Bryan, Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Muhammed Deniz
: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Bryan, Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow view of the world that's for sure. I remember calling them about wanting to support the Dectalk 5 Software produced by Phonix. They are like

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Muhammed, As Bryan said earlier with Window-Eyes most of the time you don't even have to put the screen reader to sleep with most games. In fact, when I'm doing all of my testing I have Window-Eyes running in the background to catch any popup error messages etc while I'm playing. With Jaws 11

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
, April 21, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, No, it is just simply the fact ever since shipping Eloquence with Jaws they automatically assume that is what all of their customers will use or want to use. Plus for them to purchase the Phonix Dectalk 5 SDK and then write a Jaws driver for it would cost them money, and they don't want to do

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 20:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing There was no need to be rude or condescending about it though. A company like

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread michael barnes
that is why i don't care for crap for windows. that is what i call jaws. if you want a good screen reader then go with system access. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
I wasn't a fan of System Access. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Muhammed, As Bryan said earlier with Window-Eyes most of the time you don't even have to put

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread michael barnes
man i would like to play the game. but because of the problem i'm having i can't. like i have said before i have all the requirements and i have done the stuff like folks have say. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread shaun everiss
then. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 April 2010 08:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Actually Sapi and Hal let me do that pretty well, in fact I've quite often

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread shaun everiss
well one reason I still like hal for games is you can turn the voice and hotkeys off. the reader is still loaded but its not doing any intercepts. doesn't mean it could crash but it does mean when you are done you can switch it back in. trouble is its easy to forget. At 07:05 a.m. 22/04/2010,

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread shaun everiss
well eloquence is the blindness shipping product that goes in everything. win eyes, k1000, and even hal now though some like k1000 and gw did have dectalk synths. eloquence is ok for a synth but all the small issues it had in the past. Its also quite robotic and crappy, though as a fast responce

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Based on my personal experience here Jaws is definitely the exception not the rule. Right now I have Window-Eyes 7.11 and the latest version of NVDA on my system and neither one has a problem being run in the background with a game. I've used both of them with MOTA beta 12 with no

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Dark, Based on my personal experience here Jaws is definitely the exception

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
I think what surprises me about screen readers though is the way that people tned to assume because jaws does something it's universal. I've seen a good few games which say unload your screen reader where in actual fact your screen reader just means jaws and it's irritated key shortcut

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
of ggh. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Dark, Based on my personal experience here Jaws is definitely the exception

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Bryan Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I think what surprises me about screen readers though is the way that people tned to assume because jaws does something it's universal. I've seen a good few games which say unload your screen reader where

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I think what surprises me about screen readers though is the way that people tned to assume because jaws does something it's universal. I've seen a good few games which say unload your screen

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Hayden Presley
Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing well eloquence is the blindness shipping product that goes in everything. win eyes, k1000, and even hal now though some like k1000 and gw did have dectalk synths

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Hayden Presley
, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Really Really Really? I could just put jaws

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early 90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware synths were the best around. They were the most human sounding you could get on the

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread michael barnes
with system access they give real voices out now. like i have julie on my computer. she sound like a real woman. matter of fact you can't get naru julie from any other screen reader. so try the trial and play with julie voice. and you all will see a big different in the speech. -- Email

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Hayden Presley
-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing with system access they give real voices out now. like i have julie on my computer. she sound like

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread Hayden Presley
:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early 90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-21 Thread dark
latest version. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend

[Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-20 Thread michael barnes
ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-20 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-20 Thread Bryan Peterson
may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-20 Thread Hayden Presley
Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite

Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-20 Thread Bryan Peterson
- From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing

[Audyssey] problem with horse racing

2010-04-20 Thread michael barnes
y'all talk about the screen reader part of the game. but when i go into the game i don't have my screen reader runing. hayden you had said something about sapi being turn on. what do you mean by this? because i always thought it was on. like i said before the game window comes up and it