gEDA-user: Why won't CTS resistor arrays move in PCB?

2007-06-20 Thread Ben Jackson
If I try to place or move the CTS* chip resistor arrays in PCB they won't budge. The crosshair is nailed to the top of the screen, and even my Align plugin won't move them (which surprised me!). Anyone have other chip resistor array footprints? The surplus ones I have are 1206 with 4 series resi

Re: gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Meier
My suggestions first change edit system-gafrc in my case found as /usr/local/share/gEDA/system-gafrc adding the line (component-library "./sym") then in your project directory add the sub directory sym next make symbols for each io bank and for configuration and for power, save the ones yo

Re: gEDA-user: selection of separate parts of a component

2007-06-20 Thread DJ Delorie
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:50:51 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > In the latest pcb, you can at least "lock text" to keep you from picking> > > the refdes. > Cool. Is this feature already included in the cvs version Peter > C. posted last week? (pcb-1.99v.tar.gz)How would I take advantage of > it? I d

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 18:05 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > As for the modified cross-compile-build-script --- Yes, I am > interested > to receive a copy. PM is on its way. Shell script to build the installer... http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/build_installer Apologies for the hard-code

Re: gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:49:24PM -0700, Andy Peters wrote: > Xilinx got beat over the head about that. Unlike the earlier Spartan > 3 and 3E parts, the 3A and 3AN parts can use a 3.3V VCCAUX. They > still use a 1.2V core so you need at least two supplies. Good to know. If they are ever in

Re: gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread Andy Peters
On Jun 20, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > If you allow the Quartus II tools to do their "talkback" feature > (sends > design summaries to Altera) then you get free access to SignalTap > (equiv > of Chipscope, which you cannot get for free). This is huge, imo. I didn't know that (been

Re: gEDA-user: selection of separate parts of a component

2007-06-20 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:50:51 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > In the latest pcb, you can at least "lock text" to keep you from picking > the refdes. Cool. Is this feature already included in the cvs version Peter C. posted last week? (pcb-1.99v.tar.gz) How would I take advantage of it? I didn't see an

Re: gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread Ben Jackson
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 12:13:50AM +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 20.06.2007, 14:04 -0700 schrieb Ben Jackson: > > > (btw, I considered Spartan 3E, but the Cylcone 2 seemed to have a lot > > of advantages to the hobbiest) > > Can you please explain what the advantages of Alteras C

Re: gEDA-user: selection of separate parts of a component

2007-06-20 Thread Karl.
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:50:51PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > ---<(kaimartin)>- Kai-Martin Knaak > > Universit?t Hannover, Inst. f?r Quantenoptik tel: +49-511-762-2895 > > Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannoverfax: +49-511-762-2211GPG > > key:

Re: gEDA-user: Grouping multiple symbols in gschem?

2007-06-20 Thread John Luciani
On 6/20/07, Stefan Salewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reason: I have a filter consisting of 3 coils and 3 capacitors. This > filter-element is used multiple times in my schematic, so I want to > build a group with these six elements, which I can copy and move as a > whole. I have a utility (sc

Re: gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Mittwoch, den 20.06.2007, 14:04 -0700 schrieb Ben Jackson: > > (btw, I considered Spartan 3E, but the Cylcone 2 seemed to have a lot > of advantages to the hobbiest) > Can you please explain what the advantages of Alteras Cyclone II are? I start using FPGAs some months ago, currently only wit

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > You may remember that I planned to distribute geda+pcb on virtual > machines to local students. This was not appreciated. A stripped down > linux machine turned out to be even more challenging to a windows user > than a full featured desktop environment :-| > > Today,

gEDA-user: Grouping multiple symbols in gschem?

2007-06-20 Thread Stefan Salewski
Hello, is it possible to group multiple symbols in gschen, so that their position relative to each other is fixed. Reason: I have a filter consisting of 3 coils and 3 capacitors. This filter-element is used multiple times in my schematic, so I want to build a group with these six elements, which

Re: gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:34:54 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > is it possible and useful to divide a gschem symbol with very many pins > in multiple smaller symbols? Yes. I routinely divide integrated circuits into a functional and a power part. Just make sure, all parts get the same refdes. gsch2

Re: gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:34:54PM +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > > I plan to make a pcb-board with a FPGA chip which has 208 pins. The > device (Spartan-3E) has four banks -- so it may be a good choice to > divide it into 4 sub-symbols? I divided a Cyclone 2 (EP28C in PQ208) into 6 symbols: 4 b

Re: gEDA-user: selection of separate parts of a component

2007-06-20 Thread DJ Delorie
> During placement of components I almost never want to move single > pads or even refdeses, just whole components. Especially with tight > analog SMD footprints I accidently select single pads all the > time. Moving components around would be a lot easier if I could grab > components anywhere. I

Re: gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread DJ Delorie
> is it possible and useful to divide a gschem symbol with very many pins > in multiple smaller symbols? Yup. Just give each part the same refdes, and the netlister merges them automatically. Example: http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/darrell_harmon/symbols/blackfin/ __

gEDA-user: selection of separate parts of a component

2007-06-20 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
During placement of components I almost never want to move single pads or even refdeses, just whole components. Especially with tight analog SMD footprints I accidently select single pads all the time. Moving components around would be a lot easier if I could grab components anywhere. Is ther

gEDA-user: How to divide large symbols in smaller units?

2007-06-20 Thread Stefan Salewski
Hello, is it possible and useful to divide a gschem symbol with very many pins in multiple smaller symbols? I plan to make a pcb-board with a FPGA chip which has 208 pins. The device (Spartan-3E) has four banks -- so it may be a good choice to divide it into 4 sub-symbols? I think I have seen sc

Re: gEDA-user: set size and position of dialogs with devilspie

2007-06-20 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 20 June 2007 20:19:50 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Hi. > pcb and gschem seem to have its own ideas about size and placement of > dialogs. In particular it does not seem to remember most of the > parameters. Thus the user has to manually place them time and again. > There is a way to work

gEDA-user: set size and position of dialogs with devilspie

2007-06-20 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Hi. pcb and gschem seem to have its own ideas about size and placement of dialogs. In particular it does not seem to remember most of the parameters. Thus the user has to manually place them time and again. There is a way to work around this until pcb and gschem will finally remember all the p

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Baxendale
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 18:05 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > * There is an error report on start-up of pcb: Error message is actually > german because this is the native language of my winXP. Roughly > translated it says: "Can't find file "ListLibraryContents.sh" and The file is a shell script

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:19:22 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> Win32 Native - no support offered: >> http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/geda/pcbinst-1.99v.exe > > Thanks a bundle! I'll try that file. My milage might vary :-) Here is my mileage so far: * The installer worked as expected. It even installs

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:57:52 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > I cross-compiled with mingw under Linux, so can't help regarding Cygwin. Ah! Good point. I didn't think about that route. > Win32 Native - no support offered: > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/geda/pcbinst-1.99v.exe Thanks a bundle! I'll try

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 12:03 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > From a usability point of view, he does have some valid points about > > Unix paradigms being present still, which may mean its harder to use > > for some people. > > If you could get him to write up a summary of the issues, I'd be > interes

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread DJ Delorie
> From a usability point of view, he does have some valid points about > Unix paradigms being present still, which may mean its harder to use > for some people. If you could get him to write up a summary of the issues, I'd be interested in seeing it.

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 16:57 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > Win32 Native - no support offered: > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/geda/pcbinst-1.99v.exe Sorry, http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcbinst-1.99v.exe Peter ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 14:00 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > You may remember that I planned to distribute geda+pcb on virtual > machines to local students. This was not appreciated. A stripped down > linux machine turned out to be even more challenging to a windows user > than a full featured d

Re: gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread John Griessen
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > You may remember that I planned to distribute geda+pcb on virtual > machines to local students. This was not appreciated. A stripped down > linux machine turned out to be even more challenging to a windows user > than a full featured desktop environment :-| I've been e

gEDA-user: geda, pcb and cygwin

2007-06-20 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
You may remember that I planned to distribute geda+pcb on virtual machines to local students. This was not appreciated. A stripped down linux machine turned out to be even more challenging to a windows user than a full featured desktop environment :-| Today, I tried to build the electronics too