Re: gEDA-user: First install and a tragesym problem

2007-12-01 Thread vidtech
Hi al, the difference is noticeable. I started out with the Etch 2006 package and ran in to all kind of pesty little problems. That all disappeared when I ran the ISO disk compiling the whole shebang from scratch. Now everything works fine, so yes in my opinion Hamisch should be convinced to

Re: gEDA-user: First install and a tragesym problem

2007-12-01 Thread vidtech
Hi Peter, before your post I already started with the ISO disk and an old PC from scratch. A quick fresh Etch and a bucket load of additional libs ran through with only minor glitches. The end result YES gEDA up and running. Next step will be to transplant this installation on the productive

Re: gEDA-user: First install and a tragesym problem

2007-12-01 Thread vidtech
Hi Werner, I took a look at the script myself and couldn't figure it out also, what went wrong. But I had other problems too with the 2006 Etch version. Now the ISO disk 2007 version is up and running, and you guessed it the tragesym problem has disappeared miraciously :-) Thanks for your

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 December 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: *  If you use ngspice for simulation, you can use an Octave plug-in to plot your results using Octave.  (Octave is an open-source MATLAB equivalent.) Here's a link: http://ngspice.sourceforge.net/octavespice.html If Gnucap exports .raw

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 December 2007, Werner Hoch wrote: That's right, but the format still does not contain all required informations to use the data. This is easy. * your loosing the headlines can easily be added .. need a spec. could use the CaZM format, which is already supported by gwave.

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Al, Stuart and all, On Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007, al davis wrote: On Saturday 01 December 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: *  If you use ngspice for simulation, you can use an Octave plug-in to plot your results using Octave.  (Octave is an open-source MATLAB equivalent.) Here's a link:

Re: gEDA-user: Icarus Verilog Release 0.8.6

2007-12-01 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Stephen and all, On Montag, 26. November 2007, Stephen Williams wrote: I've made a new release on the Icarus Verilog v0_8-branch git branch. This is 0.8.6, which includes various safe fixes and updates to the stable release. The source tarball and release notes are here:

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 December 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: *  QUCS.  This is really more of an entire simulation system with options to perform various analog, RF, and maybe digital simulations. I don't know how far along it is, or how easy it is to use. It is windoze-style, fully integrated,

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-announce: gerbv-1.0.3 released!

2007-12-01 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi all, On Mittwoch, 28. November 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: This is to announce the fourth release in the stable branch of gerbv, 1.0.3. Thanks for that work. The two bugs I've noticed on my box are gone. (status message and window size). I've updated the SuSE rpms to 1.0.3 More infos

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread Dan McMahill
Werner Hoch wrote: It seems strange to me that when there is an obvious, easy to read for humans, easy for a computer to read, easy to generate format, that everything except Spice uses .. that Spice doesn't change to that format. Every Spice variant has its own raw format. They should

Re: gEDA-user: pcb-place or PCB_Parse perl module

2007-12-01 Thread Didier Villevalois
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John, Ok! Don't worry about this anymore. I finally made my own set of tools :) They are programmed in Java as this is a bit more understandable for me than Perl... I parse and write pcb files abstract tree and have a set of tool to rotate, update,

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread Robert Butts
Wow, incredible support! Don't let anyone say you don't help out newbies. I have the kids this weekend so I won't get a chance to work on this until late Sunday est. Thanks! On Dec 1, 2007 11:12 AM, Dan McMahill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner Hoch wrote: It seems strange to me that when

gEDA-user: printing solder layer only, mirrored

2007-12-01 Thread tj
How do I print only the solder layer mirrored? I don't need to print all 9/10 pages everytime. tj ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: printing solder layer only, mirrored

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
How do I print only the solder layer mirrored? I don't need to print all 9/10 pages everytime. The easiest way is to export to postscript, select the multiple files option, and only print the solder layer file. Me, I use ghostview, which lets me preview the pages and select which ones I want

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:12:52 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: How well to ascii output files scale when you want to write out 30,000 node voltages and be able to pick out one to plot without it taking a long time? I don't know the answer, but it seems like a binary format could have advantages

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] terminology

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
After a quick review, polygon isn't defined. How does it relate to board', layer, drawing layer, outline, rectangle, etc... I added polygon, and updated some of the related terms. Thanks! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] terminology

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
After further review, thermal is not defined. Added. Thanks! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] terminology

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
Add keepout and courtyard, although not yet implemented. Added. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: any way to mirror text??

2007-12-01 Thread Ben Jackson
I want to label my layers such that you can look through the board and read all the numbers, but the solder-side one insists on being mirrored, and mirror buffer won't fix it. -- Ben Jackson AD7GD [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ben.com/ ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] terminology

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
The last sentence in the definition of annulus seems ambiguous: I rewrote it to make it clearer, and added examples. I'll probably go through and add illustrations to many of those also. When the netlist and the board agree, the board is done. The simplest thing to do is remove the

Re: gEDA-user: any way to mirror text??

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
I want to label my layers such that you can look through the board and read all the numbers, but the solder-side one insists on being mirrored, and mirror buffer won't fix it. There's a trick, yes. Put the text on the component side, and 'm' move it to the solder side.

gEDA-user: change/remove silk without destroying elementname

2007-12-01 Thread Ben Jackson
I don't really want to have my mounting holes labelled with silkscreen, but neither do I want to simply delete their element names (in case I ever need gsch2pcb to work again). Is there another way to hide those names? I've considered just dragging them all outside the outline... -- Ben

Re: gEDA-user: change/remove silk without destroying elementname

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
You could shrink the names and position them over the drill hole :-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: change/remove silk without destroying elementname

2007-12-01 Thread Dave N6NZ
I think you are looking for hide -- position the cursor over the element, and hit 'h', and it will hide the refdes. That is exactly what I do for hardware. -dave Ben Jackson wrote: I don't really want to have my mounting holes labelled with silkscreen, but neither do I want to simply

Re: gEDA-user: printing solder layer only, mirrored

2007-12-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 13:20 -0500, tj wrote: How do I print only the solder layer mirrored? I don't need to print all 9/10 pages everytime. Not what you asked, I know, but for UV exposure / toner transfer, isn't the solder side best printed un-mirrored? (And the component side mirrored), such

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: iverilog and Xilinx 8.2

2007-12-01 Thread Daniel O'Connor
[moved to -user] On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Stephen Williams wrote: A couple things: 1) You don't want the -tfpga flag on your command line. That is for synthesis, but you are trying to simulate. OK, I did try it without but I was looking for various options that might help :) 2) This looks like

gEDA-user: opinions on move-line-to-layer via removal?

2007-12-01 Thread Ben Jackson
PCB notices if you use 'move line to layer' on one segment of a trace and creates vias as needed to keep that trace connected (at least at the ends, it doesn't notice if you made a big 'x'). If you move a multi-line trace to another layer piece by piece, you end up with unnecessary vias. I see

Re: gEDA-user: opinions on move-line-to-layer via removal?

2007-12-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:57:08 -0800, Ben Jackson wrote: PCB notices if you use 'move line to layer' on one segment of a trace and creates vias as needed to keep that trace connected (at least at the ends, it doesn't notice if you made a big 'x'). If you move a multi-line trace to another

Re: gEDA-user: opinions on move-line-to-layer via removal?

2007-12-01 Thread Igor2
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:57:08 -0800, Ben Jackson wrote: 3) As in (2), but the via-creation code is changed to set AUTOFLAG (so the via is created by the autorouter) and only vias that were auto- created in this was are removed (other rules same as

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] terminology

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
It might be good (if not too hard) to have hyperlinks in the text when a definition uses one of the terms also defined in the document. I found myself jumping back and forth between the definitions, especially where a definition used a term further down in the list that I had not read yet.

gEDA-user: [pcb] terminology update

2007-12-01 Thread DJ Delorie
I posted the updated files: http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/gs/ I started adding illustrations to the terminology section. Just a few terms, those that *need* illustrations, have them. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org