gEDA-user: [pcb] IPC 2581 standard (was Driving the netlist from PCB (instead of gschem))

2008-10-01 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Rick and all, On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 01:34 -0400, Rick Collins wrote: At 01:10 AM 10/1/2008, you wrote: I didn't realize that you don't know anything about the standard. Don't jump to conclusions. Are you knowledgeable about the standard or not? I can't tell what your point is.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:45:16 +0200, Richard Rasker wrote: It's almost as if some path setting is wrong or missing; yet I did add the geda-0.0.2/bin directories to $PATH, and geda-0.0.2/share/man to $MANPATH (I added the export commands to .bash_profile). The local paths pcb shows in the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Richard Rasker
Op woensdag 01-10-2008 om 12:58 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Kai-Martin Knaak: On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:45:16 +0200, Richard Rasker wrote: It's almost as if some path setting is wrong or missing; yet I did add the geda-0.0.2/bin directories to $PATH, and geda-0.0.2/share/man to $MANPATH (I

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] Yet these doesn't appear to relate to the structure under /share/pcb/newlib/. Do you really have a /share/pcb/newlib directory? As in a directory in the root directory called /share? [snip] What I don't understand is why I have to bother with these things all of a sudden -- and why

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 16:19 +0200, Richard Rasker wrote: Op woensdag 01-10-2008 om 12:58 uur [tijdzone +], schreef You can set this list of paths from within the GUI (GTK-GUI assumed): File -- Preferences -- Library ??? if I enter the path to newlib here, PCB's library window

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Mittwoch, den 01.10.2008, 16:19 +0200 schrieb Richard Rasker: And what exactly am I supposed to enter there? I can only find a file geda-0.0.2/share/gEDA/system-gafrc, and there's no line defining library locations or whatever. And yes, I really need gsch2pcb to work -- it's the only way I

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Richard Rasker
Op woensdag 01-10-2008 om 10:28 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Ales Hvezda: [snip] Yet these doesn't appear to relate to the structure under /share/pcb/newlib/. Do you really have a /share/pcb/newlib directory? As in a directory in the root directory called /share? No, sorry, this directory

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] gedasuite-0.0.2 is kind of special and obviously has some bugs in this area. I will try this out myself (add a custom library to pcb) and see what happens. Okay, with gedasuite-0.0.2, I created a new directory in ~/geda-0.0.2/share/pcb/pcblib-newlib called X, put some footprints inside

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Richard Rasker
Op woensdag 01-10-2008 om 15:31 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Peter Clifton: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 16:19 +0200, Richard Rasker wrote: Op woensdag 01-10-2008 om 12:58 uur [tijdzone +], schreef You can set this list of paths from within the GUI (GTK-GUI assumed): File --

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints -- SOLVED

2008-10-01 Thread Richard Rasker
Op woensdag 01-10-2008 om 10:51 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Ales Hvezda: [snip] gedasuite-0.0.2 is kind of special and obviously has some bugs in this area. I will try this out myself (add a custom library to pcb) and see what happens. Okay, with gedasuite-0.0.2, I created a new

gEDA-user: Ground Flooding

2008-10-01 Thread Kingston Co.
I tried drawing a big rectangle but the signal etches all get covered by the rectangle. The via's and other holes show thru with the required clearances but the signal etches do not. Thanks, Fred Kingston Co. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Ground Flooding

2008-10-01 Thread DJ Delorie
You have a common problem. You need to clear the join flag for all those lines. Select - Select all :ClrFlg(Selected,Join) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Driving the netlist from PCB (instead of gschem)

2008-10-01 Thread John Griessen
Rick Collins wrote: At 01:10 AM 10/1/2008, you wrote: I didn't realize that you don't know anything about the standard. Don't jump to conclusions. Are you knowledgeable about the standard or not? I can't tell what your point is. Maybe to get you to tone down -- I'm weary of your

Re: gEDA-user: Driving the netlist from PCB (instead of gschem)

2008-10-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 17:20:25 John Griessen wrote: Rick Collins wrote: At 01:10 AM 10/1/2008, you wrote: I didn't realize that you don't know anything about the standard. Don't jump to conclusions. Are you knowledgeable about the standard or not? I can't tell what your

Re: gEDA-user: Ground Flooding

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 11:59 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: You have a common problem. You need to clear the join flag for all those lines. Can we get this crappy default changed? It is gsch2pcb's doing, right? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University

Re: gEDA-user: Driving the netlist from PCB (instead of gschem)

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 17:33 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Wednesday 01 October 2008 17:20:25 John Griessen wrote: I'm weary of this thread. Please take it off list. The subscribed audience of geda-user is very wide, and we(*) are probably filling a lot of inboxes with mail people don't want

Re: gEDA-user: Ground Flooding

2008-10-01 Thread Dave N6NZ
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 11:59 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: You have a common problem. You need to clear the join flag for all those lines. Can we get this crappy default changed? It is gsch2pcb's doing, right? Is it that, or is it that New lines, arcs clear poly is

gEDA-user: Attribute Promotion to Schematic

2008-10-01 Thread Kipton Moravec
I am new to gschem (as of Tuesday) so I do not know what is going on. I have a heavy symbol with a number of attributes. When I double click on it I only see the refdes and the pin # in the edit attributes window. Looking around I read: === How do I promote an invisible

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Promotion to Schematic

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 13:18 -0500, Kipton Moravec wrote: ;load up a color scheme (load (build-path geda-rc-path gschem-lightbg)) ; light background ;I need my hidden attributes (promote-invisible enabled) (attribute-promotion enabled); ;(promote-invisible

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Promotion to Schematic

2008-10-01 Thread Kipton Moravec
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 19:25 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 13:18 -0500, Kipton Moravec wrote: ;load up a color scheme (load (build-path geda-rc-path gschem-lightbg)) ; light background ;I need my hidden attributes (promote-invisible

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Promotion to Schematic

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 13:33 -0500, Kipton Moravec wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 19:25 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: (load (build-path geda-rc-path gschem-lightbg)) (promote-invisible enabled) (attribute-promotion enabled) (keep-invisible disabled) Is there something wrong with this? Do I

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Promotion to Schematic

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
Add to your gschemrc file: (promote-invisible enabled) AH... add it to gafrc not gschemrc. Also, could you let me know where you found the information suggesting gschemrc. That is out of date. I didn't know that it _wouldn't_ work for gschem, but gafrc is read by all the tools, not just

gEDA-user: pcb, crosshair snaps not to center of pads

2008-10-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
pcb 20080202 It was my assumption that crosshair should snap to center of a pad when Settings/Crosshair snaps to pins and pads is selected. But it does not really snaps to center -- it snaps to center of short edge, and to two positions for long edge. I tried to position a rectangular pad

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, crosshair snaps not to center of pads

2008-10-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Mittwoch, den 01.10.2008, 22:02 +0200 schrieb Stefan Salewski: pcb 20080202 It was my assumption that crosshair should snap to center OK, a known topic: http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Oct-2007/msg00371.html ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, crosshair snaps not to center of pads

2008-10-01 Thread Steven Michalske
I patched my own copy to give me back the center snap. it was screwing up some pads I was laying out. I'll see if i can dig up that patch when I get home. Steve On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 01.10.2008, 22:02 +0200 schrieb Stefan Salewski: pcb

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints -- SOLVED

2008-10-01 Thread Steven Michalske
Anyway, thank you all once again for your help and support! And I'm sure to give something back to OSS real soon (albeit not in the realm of gEDA). Bug reports and constructive criticism are always good ways to start. Thanks again, best regards, Richard Rasker

Re: gEDA-user: Problem breaking apart an element in the buffer

2008-10-01 Thread tj
Just went and got the latest cvs and now the breakup works as advertised. Thanks. Jeff wd4nmq DJ Delorie wrote: Fixed. The problem wasn't that the pads disappeared, they were created on the wrong layer. I checked in the attached patch, give it a try. Index: buffer.c

gEDA-user: SF CVS working? (was: Problem breaking apart an element in the buffer)

2008-10-01 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 05:40:28PM -0400, tj wrote: Just went and got the latest cvs and now the breakup works as advertised. Thanks. Can anyone else get to SF cvs right now? What Root are you using? -- Ben Jackson AD7GD [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ben.com/

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, crosshair snaps not to center of pads

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 22:02 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: pcb 20080202 It was my assumption that crosshair should snap to center of a pad when Settings/Crosshair snaps to pins and pads is selected. But it does not really snaps to center -- it snaps to center of short edge, and to two

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, crosshair snaps not to center of pads

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 22:35 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 22:02 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: pcb 20080202 It was my assumption that crosshair should snap to center of a pad when Settings/Crosshair snaps to pins and pads is selected. But it does not really snaps to

Re: gEDA-user: Ground Flooding

2008-10-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:35:28 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: You have a common problem. You need to clear the join flag for all those lines. Can we get this crappy default changed? IMHO the join flag mess is a real pain and needs a more general fix. How about resetting the join flag setting

Re: gEDA-user: Thermal relief

2008-10-01 Thread Ian Chapman
You know you can choose from different Thermal types -- press SHIFT key when using Thermal tool. Thanks, that's fixed it. I can even make a direct connection without a thermal relief, just great for a screw connection. Regards Ian. ___

Re: gEDA-user: PCB can't find new footprints

2008-10-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:19:18 +0200, Richard Rasker wrote: Note, this library path does not affect gsch2pcb/gnetlist. The recommended place to set the lib path for these tools is gafrc at one of the various local or system-wide places. And what exactly am I supposed to enter there? Depends

gEDA-user: Sourceforge Status

2008-10-01 Thread Dan McMahill
This is just a quick status note since a handful of people have had problems with sourceforge this month. Sourceforge relocated their data center to Chicago in September. The last bit of that move happened just a few days ago. There is some amount of fallout from this move that is still

gEDA-user: Ground Flooding

2008-10-01 Thread Kingston Co.
Hi again, its me Fred. I tried the command :ClrFlg(Selected,Join) but it did not do anything to change the problem. A large rectangle still covers all the traces but not the via's or IC's or other parts. Thanks, Fred Kingston Co. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gEDA-user: Ground Flooding

2008-10-01 Thread DJ Delorie
What version of pcb do you have? Did you notice any error messages in your console or log windows? Also, you can fix this by editing your *.pcb file manually and adding the clearline flag to all your lines. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: Ground Flooding

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 20:14 -0700, Kingston Co. wrote: Hi again, its me Fred. I tried the command :ClrFlg(Selected,Join) but it did not do anything to change the problem. A large rectangle still covers all the traces but not the via's or IC's or other parts. (And you had every trace