Hi,
I'm using gnetlist -g spice-sdb ...
1. Netlister doesn't exctract subcircuits as a subcircuits, but correct
refdes instead.
It puts, for example MX1/M23 instead of
.subckt ...
M23
.ends
X1
2. netlister also doesn't correct Resistors. It is supposed that refdes
will be corrected as
In keeping with the tradition of nothing good being said about the
router
Other than the random 'ink drops' on rare occasion, I've liked PCB's
autorouter. It gets the job done. The autorouter in the $4,000+ Protel/Altium
package doesn't get it done.
Thank you for the updates to make it
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 17:27 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
Just came across two minor postscript issues:
* The index page talks about top/bottom, but the files are named with
front/back. Pcb should stick to one layer name pattern. I'd very much
prefer top/bottom, as all the fabs I worked
Try this one:
http://cynbe.us/~cynbe/gcoder/
I had to modify some functions to make it work, and it doesn't support
poly fills, but I think it's not an issue if you mill a pcb.
2009/6/20 Bill Gatliff b...@billgatliff.com:
Dave N6NZ wrote:
Some of us local roboteers have been considering this
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 10:11 -0600, KURT PETERS wrote:
Are these instructions getting uploaded to the wiki?
Kurt
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:42:19 -0400
From: Harry Eaton bump...@gmail.com
Subject: gEDA-user: autorouter fixes and enhancements
Do you really
Are these instructions getting uploaded to the wiki?
Kurt
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:42:19 -0400
From: Harry Eaton bump...@gmail.com
Subject: gEDA-user: autorouter fixes and enhancements
To: geda-user@moria.seul.org
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:11:44 -0600, KURT PETERS wrote:
Are these instructions getting uploaded to the wiki? Kurt
This was my first reflex, too.
I'll pull them to the pcb portion of the wiki.
Are these instructions valid for the new topological autorouter too? By
the way, when is this
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 23:42 -0400, Harry Eaton wrote:
A bunch of fixes and enhancements to the original pcb autorouter
should now be available in the git repository.
I wonder if the PCB autorouter should be more closely bound to the
gschem schematics. For example, in the schematics we may
Stefan Salewski wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 23:42 -0400, Harry Eaton wrote:
A bunch of fixes and enhancements to the original pcb autorouter
should now be available in the git repository.
I wonder if the PCB autorouter should be more closely bound to the
gschem schematics. For
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
Are these instructions valid for the new topological autorouter too? By
the way, when is this autorouter going to hit the streets. Or at least be
acessible for beta testing? It's been almost a year since the gSoC 2008.
With this sub project I feel like having smelled
Stefan Salewski wrote:
I wonder if the PCB autorouter should be more closely bound to the
gschem schematics. For example, in the schematics we may specify
priority of nets (fast signals, power, ...), trace width or clearance
for net segments. Maybe by attributes? I have no idea how commercial
Anthony Blake wrote:
It is slowly getting there though. Here are some shots of Harry's LED
board, with two different net ordering heuristics:
http://wand.net.nz/~amb33/toporouter/LED.png
http://wand.net.nz/~amb33/toporouter/LED-layerhint.png
All nets were routed with no vias. After seeing
On Jun 22, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote:
A bunch of fixes and enhancements to the original pcb autorouter
should now be available in the git repository.
I wonder if the PCB autorouter should be more closely bound to the
gschem schematics. For example, in the schematics we may
Dave McGuire wrote:
I don't know how commercial EDA software handles this either, but
regardless of what they do, this functionality sounds extremely
powerful.
Agreed!
My schematics capture more than just inter-connections between
components; having PCB able to read that
On Jun 22, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote:
A bunch of fixes and enhancements to the original pcb autorouter
should now be available in the git repository.
I wonder if the PCB autorouter should be more closely bound to the
gschem
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:52:27 +1200, Anthony Blake wrote:
It's been almost a year since the gSoC 2008.
With this sub project I feel like having smelled the good food but then
not allowed to actually taste it.
http://wand.net.nz/~amb33/toporouter/LED.png
Screenshots just won't do it for me.
I have and am currently developing a advanced netlister called spNet
that does full hierarchical netlisting plus other features. Right now
I have released a version on my website that uses gnetlist as a
backend but I already completed a version that is it's own netlister
and does not need gnetlist
Hi,
I'm trying to rotate a QFN part (with thermal pad) by 45 degrees. The
part rotates, but the pad doesn't.
Here's what I'm doing:
go to library, choose pcb-newlib/geda/QFN40_6_EP.fp
place the part
cut to buffer. Choose center as origin point.
enter :FreeRotateBuffer(45)
paste part.
The
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Mark Ragesmarkra...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to rotate a QFN part (with thermal pad) by 45 degrees. The
part rotates, but the pad doesn't.
Here's what I'm doing:
go to library, choose pcb-newlib/geda/QFN40_6_EP.fp
place the part
cut to buffer.
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
[...] Any hints that let me actually use the router appreciated.
Uhh, I don't think you could actually use it for anything useful, as
it's pretty broken.. but if you still want to go ahead try
:toporouter(). There is a 'h' parameter which makes it re-evaluate the
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:42:19 -0400, Harry Eaton wrote:
(9) create a fresh rat's nest. ('E' the 'W')
^
What does this mean? An escapen key sequence?
I'd do fresh rats nests with the O-key.
[12] if you really want to muck with the router because you
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:16:14 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
I'll pull them to the pcb portion of the wiki.
done.
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_do_i_make_the_most_of_the_auto_router
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Download the latest spNet (0.9.1) here:
[1]http://spnet.code-fusion.net/
Completely ignore the FAQ/Documentation on the site it is out of date.
Download the symbols on the download page too and replace your current
gschem symbols with the new ones you downloaded (very
PCB has a limitation in that it can't rotate *square* pads. Make your
thermal pad out of two overlapping rectangles and it will work.
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KURT PETERS wrote:
Are these instructions getting uploaded to the wiki?
Kurt
dont' know about the wiki, but I added a chapter to the manual on using
the autorouter that is based on harry's email.
-Dan
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:23:20 +1200, Anthony Blake wrote:
:toporouter(). There is a 'h' parameter which makes it re-evaluate the
netordering after a number of routes,
Works! :-))
I noticed, that the router did not introduce any via. Is this a missing
feature, or do I have to through some
On Monday 22 June 2009 23:12:45 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:23:20 +1200, Anthony Blake wrote:
:toporouter(). There is a 'h' parameter which makes it re-evaluate the
netordering after a number of routes,
Works! :-))
I noticed, that the router did not introduce any via.
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
I noticed, that the router did not introduce any via. Is this a missing
feature, or do I have to through some switch?
That hasn't been implemented yet. It requires the ability to insert and
delete vertices in the CDT, while properly managing the data on the
edges
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:20:40 +1200, Anthony Blake wrote:
That hasn't been implemented yet. It requires the ability to insert and
delete vertices in the CDT, while properly managing the data on the
edges (without having to rebuild it).
Ok. I didin't quite understand this when you mentioned it
Hi Anthony,
Thank you very much for the spNet. I'm trying to compile your tool. The
result is below:
$ make
Making all in src
make[1]: Entering directory
`/home/alexb/Download/geda/spnet/spnet-0.9.1/src'
gcc -DPACKAGE_NAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\\
-DPACKAGE_STRING=\\
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:20:40 +1200, Anthony Blake wrote:
That hasn't been implemented yet. It requires the ability to insert and
delete vertices in the CDT, while properly managing the data on the
edges (without having to rebuild it).
Ok. I didin't quite understand
Odd, I thought I did a configure/make/make install before I released
to to make sure it compiles platform independent.
What did you configure line look like and can you email me your
config.log? I'll get back to you in a few hours since I'm still at
work.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM,
Hi Anthony,
Please find config.log attached.
Thanks,
Alex.
On 06/22/2009 04:03 PM, Anthony Shanks wrote:
Odd, I thought I did a configure/make/make install before I released
to to make sure it compiles platform independent.
What did you configure line look like and can you email me your
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:02:32 +1200, Anthony Blake wrote:
That would be because the code for dealing with the conflicting
constraints has been commented out. With existing routing and pads, the
line exiting the pad and the pad edge cannot be inserted as constraints
into a CDT.
That is, in its
BTW, what does CDT stand for?
Constrained Delauney Triangulation.
It's a way of breaking down topologies into a mesh of triangles.
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Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
That is, in its present state, the toporouter can only deal with boards
from scratch. This is indeed a major constraint in terms of usefulness.
At this point I'm not really worried about usefulness.
BTW, what does CDT stand for?
Constrained Delaunay Triangulation.
Hi Alex,
I took a look at my build and compared it to your log and the problem
is I'm compiling on gcc 4.3 and you're using gcc 4.4. I did some
research and it seems its an known issue and a lot of things that are
compiling in gcc 4.3 are broken in gcc 4.4 due to includes missing
(such as the
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote:
I wonder if the PCB autorouter should be more closely bound to the
gschem schematics. For example, in the schematics we may specify
priority of nets (fast signals, power, ...), trace width or clearance
for net segments. Maybe by attributes? I have no
Ack, my mistake, it was completely something else. I just released a
fixed version I think it should compile just fine. For some reason my
error didn't get caught with 4.3 but got caught with 4.4.
Download the newest version here (0.9.1.2)
http://spnet.code-fusion.net/
Also download the newest
Hi Anthony,
Thanks a lot, now spNet compiles well.
When I run it I have following error:
$ spnet if.sch
spNet v0.9.1
gEDA/gschem Netlister
Copyright 2009 Anthony Shanks
-E- Invalid lib file. Syntax: library: PATH LibName
[al...@bazilik buck1]$ more ~/.spnetlibs
library: /home/username/tsmc
OK, so if these are possible now, please tell me and make me happy:
1) offset command. Clones a line or arc at a user-entered distance.
Like mechanical CAD programs.
2) direct entry of absolute / relative co-ordinates ala CAD. Beats
counting dots on the snap grid, especially for footprint
Hi all,
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 21:46 -0400, Harry Eaton wrote:
Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote:
I wonder if the PCB autorouter should be more closely bound to the
gschem schematics. For example, in the schematics we may specify
priority of nets (fast signals, power, ...), trace
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:14:31 -0500, Mark Rages wrote:
1) offset command. Clones a line or arc at a user-entered distance.
Like mechanical CAD programs.
ACK. Multicopy would be nice, indeed. I used this a lot when working with
protel98.
2) direct entry of absolute / relative co-ordinates
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