gEDA-user: logic analyzers, verilog, and gtkwave...

2009-08-09 Thread DJ Delorie
Update... I'm still working on my SDRAM interface board: http://www.delorie.com/electronics/sdram/ I've been working on getting the sdram chip running at full speed (half speed works fine), so it's down to timing issues. I decided to remove the logic analyzer connector from the SDRAM side to

Re: gEDA-user: logic analyzers, verilog, and gtkwave...

2009-08-09 Thread Larry Doolittle
DJ - On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 05:51:40AM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: The LA module I wrote is a DDR dual-bank capture, [chop] A perl script turns them into a VCD file that gtkwave can read :-) Awesome. I hope you'll write this up more, and publish code. Question: Can gtkwave be told to break

Re: gEDA-user: logic analyzers, verilog, and gtkwave...

2009-08-09 Thread asomers
Have you heard of the free logic analyzer? http://www.sump.org/projects/analyzer/ . It uses a xilinx dev board and java control software. It has also been ported to several other FPGA boards. The serial interface might be simple enough for you to use with your project. At my last job, I used

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 August 2009, Bob Paddock wrote: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/01/2114210/Cheap-Cross-P latform-Electronic-Circuit-Simulation-Software?from=rss Cheap, Cross-Platform Electronic Circuit Simulation Software? dv82 writes I teach circuits and electronics at the

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread John Doty
On Aug 9, 2009, at 9:56 AM, al davis wrote: On Saturday 01 August 2009, Bob Paddock wrote: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/01/2114210/Cheap-Cross-P latform-Electronic-Circuit-Simulation-Software?from=rss Cheap, Cross-Platform Electronic Circuit Simulation Software? dv82 writes I

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:56:22 -0400, al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote: [snip] gEDA is friendly to everything BUT Windows, [snip] I was out of town when this hit (which was probably fortunate). What are we going to do about it? [snip] ... there is a problem with the geda

Re: gEDA-user: Progress with unified build

2009-08-09 Thread John Doty
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Dan McMahill wrote: - you may want to have a set of symbols which include the footprint name already (search for heavy symbol in the archives or wiki). Others may not want this. It is a personal preference thing and people tend to have strong opinions

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread Gareth Edwards
2009/8/9 Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk: Does anyone want to help getting a Windows port working (reasonably) smoothly?  Has anyone tested a Windows build recently? I could pitch in on that. Good place to start? Cheers Gareth ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:01:30 -0600, John Doty wrote: 2. We need to provide a migration path -- in and out. Gnucap works fine, but there is a problem with the geda interface. Does anyone want to help? What's the problem you perceive? The most obvious obstacle in the migration path is

Re: gEDA-user: logic analyzers, verilog, and gtkwave...

2009-08-09 Thread DJ Delorie
Awesome. I hope you'll write this up more, and publish code. Yup, I plan on it. It's in the Edit menu, called Expand (F3). Sweet. Hmmm... Expand again on one of those individual lines should re-combine them. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:17:17 +0100, Gareth Edwards gar...@edwardsfamily.org.uk wrote: 2009/8/9 Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk: Does anyone want to help getting a Windows port working (reasonably) smoothly?  Has anyone tested a Windows build recently? I could pitch in on that. Good place

Re: gEDA-user: logic analyzers, verilog, and gtkwave...

2009-08-09 Thread DJ Delorie
Have you heard of the free logic analyzer? http://www.sump.org/projects/analyzer/ Looks like an external analyzer, I have one of those. I did look at a number of other chipscope-like projects, too. None of them really did what I wanted, and mine was trivial enough to write in a few hours

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread DJ Delorie
Does anyone want to help getting a Windows port working (reasonably) smoothly? I would. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread Gareth Edwards
2009/8/9 Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk: If I remember correctly... *searches mail archives* http://www.geda.seul.org/mailinglist/geda-dev126/msg00029.html That's probably a good place to start. OK, I'll have a play. Cheers Gareth ___

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread John Doty
On Aug 9, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:01:30 -0600, John Doty wrote: 2. We need to provide a migration path -- in and out. Gnucap works fine, but there is a problem with the geda interface. Does anyone want to help? What's the problem you perceive?

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:09:01 -0600, John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: With the exception of the flow from gschem to layout in another suite, which works radically well. How to generalize? Well, if you want to export schematics instead of just netlists and BOM's, a gnetlist back end needs

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread John Doty
On Aug 9, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:09:01 -0600, John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: With the exception of the flow from gschem to layout in another suite, which works radically well. How to generalize? Well, if you want to export schematics instead of just

Re: gEDA-user: build-system branch merged

2009-08-09 Thread Stefan Petersen
Peter TB Brett wrote: Hi everybody, The build-system branch has now been merged. Please report any problems to the usual places. Hello! Nice work! I download gaf once in a fortnight and try to build it. I tried now. As always I stumbled into problem building _docs_, always this docs

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:45:34 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: One project I've had in mind for a while is to write a geda-netlist And thus increment the number of netlisters associated with the geda project by one ;-) How will you make sure, that the new netlister exactly replicates the old

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:16:07 -0600, John Doty wrote: Just about any language works naturally on Unix these days, Not quite. C can draw on a host of system functions and libs that no other environtment variables, inter process communication via dbus and the various ways to interact with the

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:09:01 -0600, John Doty wrote: The most obvious obstacle in the migration path is the lack of conversion tools. With the exception of the flow from gschem to layout in another suite, which works radically well. This is not conversion, but a work flow partially in

Re: gEDA-user: logic analyzers, verilog, and gtkwave...

2009-08-09 Thread Larry Doolittle
DJ - On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 01:22:20PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: It's in the Edit menu, called Expand (F3). Sweet. Hmmm... Expand again on one of those individual lines should re-combine them. No, you have to select a bunch of individual signals (they need not be the full set of the

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-09 Thread John Doty
On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: For me that's not the issue: the issue is that you're putting yet another gnetlist behavior out of reach of back end control. You mean, the behavior of a netlister should depend on the order of components in the *.sch file? Please give

Re: gEDA-user: logic analyzers, verilog, and gtkwave...

2009-08-09 Thread DJ Delorie
No, you have to select a bunch of individual signals (they need not be the full set of the original bus, or even all related) and then Combine Up (or Combine Down). Yup, I figured that out quickly enough. I just thought automatic un-expand would be an obvious thing, but it didn't work when I

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-09 Thread John Doty
On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:09:01 -0600, John Doty wrote: The most obvious obstacle in the migration path is the lack of conversion tools. With the exception of the flow from gschem to layout in another suite, which works radically well.

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-09 Thread A.Burinskiy
John, Do you mean that one day source= attribute is reference to schematic, another day it is something else? We have to stick to some reasonable meaning of all attributes, at list to be able to exchange libraries and collect our work over the years, isn't it? Talking about ynetlist: it has