Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-05 Thread Andy Fierman
- back-annotation to schematic from the PCB editor. An example of where this is essential is if impedance controlled nets end up having to cross plane breaks and extra capacitors have to be added to couple the ground return paths between the planes. A net in the schematic may have an impedance

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-19 Thread Andy Fierman
What is mfgs? Manufacturers? (Not sure why they'd be bothered to contribute symbols anyway. They do very few for commercial packages.)          Andy. signality.co.uk ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-18 Thread Andy Fierman
Which browser and OS are you using ? Chrome (with default settings i.e. JS enabled) on WinXP Pro SP3 32 bit. Haven't tried it at home with FF on LMDE 64 bit. :) BTW; just submitted a couple of your pages to: http://validator.w3.org/ Quite a few errors. H. :( Andy

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-17 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Stephen, FWIW, It's not clear to me if the prices shown are in $AU or $US and the option to select one or the other doesn't appear to change the prices shown on the products or in the cart. I'm in the UK on a fairly throttled broadband connection and the pictures took some seconds to load.

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi John, Sounds like you've not yet found this: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gnetlist I know, netlist isn't necessarily the first search term that comes to mind when looking for info on how to generate a BoM ... See also: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-attribs Cheers,         

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-17 Thread Andy Fierman
?!?   John   On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Andy Fierman   [1]andyfier...@signality.co.uk wrote:     Hi John,     Sounds like you've not yet found this:     [2]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gnetlist     I know, netlist isn't necessarily the first search term that comes     to mind

Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA

2011-08-04 Thread Andy Fierman
Drifting off topic ... but going with the flow somewhat: I've been running Linux Mint Debian Edition 64bit since about February this year. Very impressed. I like the rolling distro idea. So far nothing serious has broken and have not had to be too techy with it. There are some good ideas coming

gEDA-user: Design Nark

2011-07-19 Thread Andy Fierman
Is it just me being a Grumpy Old Man or does anyone else take issue with RS over their advertising for their Design Spark EDA tool? In particular the statement at the end of the last paragraph in: http://www.designspark.com/content/designspark-pcb-version-2-takes-pcb-design-another-dimension

Re: gEDA-user: OT - non-contact digital current loop sniffer

2011-07-14 Thread Andy Fierman
As long as you have access to a single wire and not the return path! :)          Andy. signality.co.uk On 13 July 2011 22:48, Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:18 AM, David C. Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: Hi, electronics

Re: gEDA-user: OT: help needed; asymmetric load after rectifier seems to disrupt its working.

2011-06-30 Thread Andy Fierman
  the same, so the distortion is in the transformer. If you say it   doesn't work then why doesn't it work?   On 22/06/11 22:39, Andy Fierman wrote: Sorry Robert, Both Wojciech and I are wrong. His suggestion about adding a choke is basically the same as mine of using a transformer

Re: gEDA-user: OT: help needed; asymmetric load after rectifier seems to disrupt its working.

2011-06-27 Thread Andy Fierman
The most recent circuit you posted is not the same as your original and as Gene pointed out, you have now made a series resonant circuit between the 220nF cap and the 200uH primary inductance. In the simulation, the source resistance is zero, the ESR of the cap is zero and there is only 0.25R

Re: gEDA-user: OT: help needed; asymmetric load after rectifier seems to disrupt its working.

2011-06-19 Thread Andy Fierman
Ooops, Just missed the Undo Send window ... Typo in (i): if the source has a peak to peak swing of x volts but a dc offset of y then (neglecting the diode drops) vcc = x/2+y and vss = x/2-y. :)          Andy On 19 June 2011 11:01, Andy Fierman andyfier...@signality.co.uk wrote: Rick

Re: gEDA-user: OT: help needed; asymmetric load after rectifier seems to disrupt its working.

2011-06-17 Thread Andy Fierman
Simply reproducing the filter twice, one for each polarity of rectifier will not work. If you can float the load or the source then splitting the circuit into two and using a bridge rectifier in each will work OK. The attached shows what I mean. Cheers,          Andy. www.signality.co.uk

Re: gEDA-user: Darter - SPICE based IBIS modelling tool

2011-05-31 Thread Andy Fierman
Oh, yes. We like this! Cheers,          Andy. signality.co.uk On 31 May 2011 07:11, Russell Dill russ.d...@asu.edu wrote: As edge rates increase, signal intergrity (SI) becomes more and more important, even for the hobbyist. Unfortunately, the models provided by semiconductor vendors

Re: gEDA-user: This morning's treat

2011-05-23 Thread Andy Fierman
Well done that man. Cheers,          Andy. On 23 May 2011 05:18, Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com wrote: Cool, Got photos? Steve On May 22, 2011, at 6:57 PM, John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: Well, here I am in Osaka. It's Monday morning, and I just saw the prototype Soft

Re: gEDA-user: zener diode modeling

2011-04-19 Thread Andy Fierman
and it is extremely hard to get zeners to not gag in the middle of a transient sim I was looking for a very generic all purpose model that won't yak. It doesn't haven't to be accurate, just work. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Andy Fierman andyfier...@signality.co.uk wrote: Hmmm. Tricky things zener

Re: gEDA-user: zener diode modeling

2011-04-18 Thread Andy Fierman
Hmmm. Tricky things zener, schottky and soft recovery diode models ... Try a different vendors model (check to see if it is actually a different model)? You could try using a V (voltage) source in series with an ordinary diode plus a second diode in anti-parallel with the series V and diode.

Re: gEDA-user: OFF: capacitors for RF power amplifier

2011-04-13 Thread Andy Fierman
If you are going to model the PA - particularly to look at resonance effects - then you should include reasonably accurate models for the inductors and capacitors which include their major parasitic components. The Murata Chip S-Parameter Impedance Library is a handy tool for looking at their

Re: gEDA-user: OFF: capacitors for RF power amplifier

2011-04-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Uwe is spot on. The capacitance vs. voltage of the X7R dielectric is not very good. NP0/COG are usually specified for precision timing and filter applications. NP0/COG also have a much lower temperature coefficient. Andy. On 11 April 2011 15:58, Uwe Bonnes

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for spice models that work with ngspice

2011-03-02 Thread Andy Fierman
Fairchild no longer make the 2N3416 so there is no longer a direct link to it. However, after a bit of educated guesswork it turns out that you can still get their model. Follow this link then fill in the form. http://www.fairchildsemi.com/cgi-bin/email_model.cgi?file=2N3416.mod          Andy.

Re: gEDA-user: Another free schematic/PCB tool

2011-02-05 Thread Andy Fierman
:)          Andy. www.signality.co.uk On 4 February 2011 21:27, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 13:07 +, Andy Fierman wrote: * Sorry, I can't remember who. John Luciani. I think.. http://www.luciani.org/index.html He has a lot of nice footprints available

Re: gEDA-user: MultiSim, Analog Devices Edition

2011-02-04 Thread Andy Fierman
I downloaded a copy something over a year ago. I gave up on it very quickly because (if I remember correctly) it's very limited in terms of circuit size and model and symbol creation/editing.          Andy. www.signality.co.uk On 4 February 2011 07:05, Gareth Edwards

Re: gEDA-user: Another free schematic/PCB tool

2011-02-04 Thread Andy Fierman
Sorry if I seem a bit scathing but it seems less an interesting article, more a very wordy advert. And I'm struggling with the Open Source part of the title. Free, yes. FOSS; no. As a schematic capture and pcb layout package it looks nice. As an EDA tool it looks a bit thin. And as for:

Re: gEDA-user: Another free schematic/PCB tool

2011-02-04 Thread Andy Fierman
. Someone* on this list has a tagline along the lines of: You can't design open hardware using closed source tools.          Andy. www.signality.co.uk * Sorry, I can't remember who. On 4 February 2011 09:54, Gareth Edwards gar...@edwardsfamily.org.uk wrote: On 4 February 2011 09:28, Andy Fierman

Re: gEDA-user: Chortle: A Technology Mapping Program for LookupTable-Based Field Programmable Gate Arrays

2010-07-13 Thread Andy Fierman
I reached much the same place ... Is this it? Chortle-Technology Mapping for Lookup Tables (ZIP File) on this page: http://www.eecg.toronto.edu/~jayar/software/software.html Otherwise try contacting Jonathan Rose directly. Andy signality.co.uk On 13 July 2010 15:27, John McCaskill

Re: gEDA-user: How to use Transformer in gschem

2010-07-02 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Hari, If you want to simply model the bidirectional behaviour of a transformer to see - very roughly - what the input to the transformer looks like but are not too worried about the ac behaviour then an ideal transformer like this will do the job. ** * This is the

Re: gEDA-user: Audio processing

2010-04-15 Thread Andy Fierman
Another problem is that the ear is very sensitive to the delay between the note being struck and the actual sound being produced. The processing delay has to be in the order of a few milliseconds or life gets very confusing for the player and any other listeners. The guitars Roland built for

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-02-24 Thread Andy Fierman
Could be interesting. Thanks for that! Cheers, Andy. Signality Solutions York, UK t: +44 (0) 5601 720 580 m: +44 (0) 7796 538 192 skype: andyfierman www.signality.co.uk On 24 February 2010 15:12, Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: I just got aware of the open source

Re: gEDA-user: Getting new linux, which distribution?

2010-02-21 Thread Andy Fierman
Larry, Are you thinking of this: http://www.liquidpcb.org/index.html ? Cheers, Andy. Signality Solutions t: +44 (0) 5601 720 580 m: +44 (0) 7796 538 192 skype: andyfierman www.signality.co.uk On 21 February 2010 03:20, Larry Battraw lbatt...@gmail.com wrote: I had a quick

Re: gEDA-user: TL431

2010-02-21 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Gene, As has already been mentioned, the problem will be what happens as the supply turns on. In theory, as VCC ramps up, the 431 will start to regulate and so limit its own cathode voltage. However, there may be a delay before this starts to happen (due to the devices internal startup and any

Re: gEDA-user: new components

2010-02-02 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Chris, Welcome to the free world! If you've not already found it, a good place to start is here: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial then have a good read of: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gschem_symbol_creation and http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:transistor_guide Then

Re: gEDA-user: OT diode reverse saturation current

2009-12-01 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Gene, The usually quoted formula is: IS = A*exp(-Eg/(k*T) Where IS = saturation current, A is nearly constant independent of temperature and dependent on diffusion coefficients of electrons and holes. k is the Boltzmann constant. ν is a constant; 1 for germanium and 2 for silicon; and T is the

Re: gEDA-user: Analog books

2009-11-25 Thread Andy Fierman
Now don't open your presents all at once! Save some to read for the rest of those long dark winter nights . :) Cheers, Andy. www.signality.co.uk 2009/11/24 Karl Hammar k...@aspodata.se: A lot of people responding: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Karl Hammar k...@aspodata.se

Re: gEDA-user: Books about PCB design

2009-11-25 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Torsten, Have a wander round: http://www.cherryclough.com/Pages/Publications%20and%20downloads.htm and http://www.signalintegrity.com/ After all, push your signal fast enough and you can no longer treat the PCB and the schematic as separate entities. Cheers, Andy.

Re: gEDA-user: Analog books

2009-11-24 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Karl, It's worth having a look around Doug Self's site: http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/ampins/ampins.htm A lot of the info has been removed in advance of his publishing a new book but there's a lot of other stuff there and pointers to more. Andy. www.signality.co.uk 2009/11/24

Re: gEDA-user: opamp slew rate limiting

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Gene, Some more things to think about as sanity checks. Following on from Peter's question, what is the gain of your amplifier (including any effects of the source resistance if it's an inverting amplifier configuration)? You say that The gain is sufficiently large that the opamp is driven

Re: gEDA-user: opamp slew rate limiting

2009-11-10 Thread Andy Fierman
For the opa2132, it's not clear what the slew rate would do as it comes out of saturation but it may well only really add some delay rather than reduce the slew rate. Using opamps as comparators can be tricky. Alan's suggestion of using something from the LM339 / LM2907 / LM3302 comparator family

Re: gEDA-user: Eliminate separate Vcc planes?

2009-10-20 Thread Andy Fierman
There are some nice little tools to show the behaviour of multilayer chip ceramics (and some of Murata's inductors) Although they don't include their single layer microwave caps in the database, the Murata Chip Capacitor and Inductor S-Parameter Impedance Library program from here:

Re: gEDA-user: Eliminate separate Vcc planes?

2009-10-19 Thread Andy Fierman
So your consultant thinks it's a bad idea to have a Vcc plane because it takes up space that you could use for additional ground planes and that you might need to run traces ... ... and then urges you to run power traces where? In the - now empty - Vcc plane layer? Or in the same layer as your

Re: gEDA-user: TI CC2480 ZigBee (off-topic)

2009-09-10 Thread Andy Fierman
Please excuse me if if I haven't understood your question correctly but if your question is about making a PCB element then would this help? http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips and in particular, http://brorson.com/gEDA/land_patterns_20070818.pdf Andy. 2009/9/10 Goran

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Is it possible to draw a thicker net?

2009-09-03 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Robert, I think if you look for the system-gschemrc file (probably in /etc/gEDA/) then you'll find a section in there ; net-style string ; ; Set to thin if you want thin nets. ; Set to thick if you want thick nets. ; This mode also determines what net style gets printed ; ;(net-style

Re: gEDA-user: Multivibrator Simulation

2009-06-24 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Micheal, Sorry about that, Al Davis is right, OFF doesn't seem to help. Here are two ways to fix the problem. 1) As has already been described, if you start the simulation with the supply voltage at 9V but apply an initial condition of 0V to one of the transistor bases - using the .IC spice

Re: gEDA-user: Multivibrator Simulation

2009-06-23 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Michael, Another way to do this is to use the OFF option in the bipolar transistor model to force one of the transistors into a known initial state. I'm not sure how you introduce this parameter into you particular simulation schematic, you may have to just hand edit the device model in your

Re: gEDA-user: Footprints with mounting holes

2009-06-15 Thread Andy Fierman
Add the pins to the symbol, name them as already suggested and then in schematic add one of the not connected symbols (nc-bottom/left/right/top-1.sym in the Misc unsorted symbols library) to each pin. That should ensure that all the pins in the symbol and the footprint then match but the nc

Re: gEDA-user: Footprints with mounting holes

2009-06-15 Thread Andy Fierman
...@ssalewski.de: On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 10:27 +0100, Andy Fierman wrote: Add the pins to the symbol, name them as already suggested and then in schematic add one of the not connected symbols (nc-bottom/left/right/top-1.sym in the Misc unsorted symbols library) to each pin. That should ensure

gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi, I'm puzzled by a couple of gschem DRC errors I'm getting. I'm using Stefan Salewski's quad comparator symbol with the separate power pins symbol. I have four comparators plus the power pin symbol all with the refdes of U1. All symbols are given an SO14.fp footprint. When I run: gnetlist

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi John, The comparator symbol has a numslots and slotdef attributes and I have edited the slot attribute for each. The power pin symbol does not have a numslots or any slotdef attributes. I've got the right pinout for each of the four comparator symbols in gschem and as I say, the connectivity

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Fierman
THEY USE IT? On Jun 11, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Andy Fierman wrote: Hi, I'm puzzled by a couple of gschem DRC errors I'm getting. I'm using Stefan Salewski's quad comparator symbol with the separate power pins symbol. I have four comparators plus the power pin symbol all with the refdes of U1

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Stefan, I should have said that I am using your latest symbols after all it was me that found the slotting bug. I've not tried Kai-Martin's symbols yet. :) Andy. http://.signality.co.uk 2009/6/11 Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de: On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 17:28 +0100, Andy

Re: gEDA-user: gattrib: Adding new attribute columns

2009-05-19 Thread Andy Fierman
Bug report posted . ID: 2793743 :) BTW the version I'm using pops up various messages about things not being implemented yet such as opening a file, finding or searching for attributes. Is that what you'd expect from this version? Thanks, Andy

gEDA-user: gattrib: Adding new attribute columns

2009-05-18 Thread Andy Fierman
The version of gattrib I'm using (1.4.0.20080127 from the Debian lenny repos) has the option to add a new attribute column (Edit Add new attribute column). Having read the gattrib readme I'm confused by how this function behaves. Say I have attributes A, B , and D in my schematic and I want to

Re: gEDA-user: gattrib: Adding new attribute columns

2009-05-18 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Stuart, Should I file a bug report? Should have said: I'm running the 64bit debs from the Mepis 8 repos on a dual core Athlon machine. 2009/5/18 Stuart Brorson s...@cloud9.net: Hi -- Say I have attributes A, B , and D in my schematic and I want to add a new attribute C to all the

Re: gEDA-user: Signal Source Setup for Electric Guitar?

2009-05-13 Thread Andy Fierman
Quick tip on your schematic: it's a good idea to offset 4 wire junctions (C1, R1, R2 Q1b) so that they appear as two pairs of 3 wire junctions. That way even if the junction dot disappears in a .png or .pdf or whatever, it is obvious that the 4 wires are all joined and it's not just 2 wires

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread Andy Fierman
Interesting idea. Looks like it's a single (maybe double) sided through hole PCB. Probably only a low frequency board. I can see this may have some advantages for high current and therefore maybe switch mode PSU's but it may only have limited use for the following reasons: i) All tracks have

Re: gEDA-user: Signal Source Setup for Electric Guitar?

2009-05-12 Thread Andy Fierman
As Anthony has already asked, where is a copy of the schematic? I followed your link but haven't found one from there yet. For guitar pickup modelling, you might like to do a bit of Googling on spice model guitar pickup or similar. The first one I found was this

gEDA-user: Adding attributes to gschem symbols

2009-05-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi, I am new to gEDA and have a question about how to make gschem attributes invisible in the schematic. I think I understand the basics of how to create and edit symbols with their associated attributes and text etc. * This is what I want to do: Add a set of attributes to every symbol I

Re: gEDA-user: Adding attributes to gschem symbols

2009-05-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Duncan, That's exactly what I needed thanks! Andy. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Adding attributes to gschem symbols

2009-05-11 Thread Andy Fierman
John, Thanks for that. I think I may have mislead a bit by saying that I wanted to edit my attributes in the schematic. Thinking a bit more and reading your comments of course I wouldn't want to edit much in a schematic for the reasons you describe. If I wanted to convert all the R's and all the

Re: gEDA-user: Adding attributes to gschem symbols

2009-05-11 Thread Andy Fierman
John, Also, I was a bit sloppy in my library terminology. I didn't mean local library as in /usr/share/gEDA/sym/local. I meant as in ${HOME}/gaf/gschem-sym. I've had a quick play to prove to myself that I can set up a gafrc file and libraries anywhere I want. Andy.

Re: gEDA-user: Adding attributes to gschem symbols

2009-05-11 Thread Andy Fierman
H I now see more what John D was warning me about. I hadn't realised that once a component is placed in a schematic although the graphical stuff is loaded from the library at gschem startup, the texty bits such as footprint aren't. For instance if I place my mosfet with

Re: gEDA-user: Adding attributes to gschem symbols

2009-05-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Stefan, Sorry, forgot to set composer to plain text .. Edit / Update component has basically the same effect as closing and restarting gschem: it updates the graphical parts of a symbol but not the text attributes. If I enclose the text attributes in curly brackets in the symbol file