gEDA-user: pcb feature request: Better control on ps output

2009-01-21 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
pcb does a decent job with the set of prints produced by ps output. However, this is no flexibility in this approach. I wish, there was an interface to define a set of prints according to the local preferences. E.g., if I populate the board myself, I like to print assembly prints with refdes an

gEDA-user: pcb feature request: Discriminate action and display units.

2007-10-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
The units setting mangles two distinct tasks -- How to display and how to act. It makes sense to discriminate these. E.g. it is useful to work on an imperial grid but show sizes in metric units. Suggestion: Add a preference parameter "display-units". Toggle between "mm/mil" and "mil/mm" with a

Re: gEDA-user: pcb feature request: Map "remove selected" to [backspace].

2007-10-26 Thread DJ Delorie
> One of the menu items I use very often is "remove selected". There > seems to be no keyboard shortcut for this action. We discussed this at one of the August code sprints, and decided that the "Delete" key should do this. I've fixed the lesstif gui to do this, but left Backspace as "remove obj

gEDA-user: pcb feature request: Map "remove selected" to [backspace].

2007-10-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
One of the menu items I use very often is "remove selected". There seems to be no keyboard shortcut for this action. Suggestion: Map it to [backspace]. This would resemble the situation in ordinary text editors where delete and backspace can both be used to get rid of text, but do it in a sligh

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-11 Thread John Griessen
Ales Hvezda wrote: > * I am definately in favor of a modifier key (ctrl, shift, and alt > should not be used) that needs to pressed during the selection > and I would prefer the bounding box be drawn dashed or such > to show that something else is going on. Good. Li

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-11 Thread Duncan Drennan
> Quite probably - I added it to gschem, but I was thinking I should have > copied the GTK / Gnome app convention, as I'm forever mixing that > convention with gschem's in the wrong apps. I'm in favour of following the GTK convention. I inevitably end up doing the wrong thing in the wrong applicat

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-11 Thread John Griessen
Steven Michalske wrote: > I hate zooming on scroll wheel!I want to turn it off it is > not a zoom wheel. > > i rather have it move up/down > I thought the zoom acted along with a key like scroll-wheel. JG ___ geda-user mailing list ged

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-11 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: > In fact, I keep trying to use the middle button to zoom/pan in other > applications now, and get frustrated when it doesn't just work :-P I like it in the galeon web browser...works with a mid mouse button or scroll wheel. John Griessen Ecosensory

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-11 Thread John Griessen
Peter Clifton wrote: > What do non-technical drawing programs / office tools do here? > > I'm hesitant to make another option for defining this behaviour on a > per-user basis, as I tend to believe in getting UI behaviours right. > These are tools for techies. We want UI redefinability without

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread peter
> > I just wounder if our way breaks should the user have a fancier input > device with multi-axis scroll wheels. (I believe they exist) > My laptop has multi-axis scroll on its touchpad (the rightmost and bottommost regions act as scroll areas). Our way breaks it. I would support Ctrl+Scroll fo

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread Steven Michalske
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 21:23 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:24:27 +1200, Karl Mowatt-Wilson wrote: >> >>> Having researched the AutoCAD behaviour, it appears that some people >

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >Eagle does the same as PCB though. Same direction, too. Google maps >zooms the same way. I think we got it right. > Yes, I think we got it right too. The zooming/panning on the middle mouse button stays. On to the other questions raised in this thread: * I don't really want t

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread John Doty
On Aug 10, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: > I hate zooming on scroll wheel!I want to turn it off > it is not a zoom wheel. > > i rather have it move up/down I was briefly annoyed when the behavior in gschem changed. But now I find it very nice. I never pan any more: j

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread DJ Delorie
> i rather have it move up/down > > how do i map buttons 4 and 5 back to scrolling and not zooming? In pcb, the lesstif hid defines the mouse actions in pcb-menu.res. See: Mouse = { . . . Up = Zoom(0.8) Down = Zoom(1.25) } You can tie the Cursor(Warp,...) action to those instead of you

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread Steven Michalske
I hate zooming on scroll wheel!I want to turn it off it is not a zoom wheel. i rather have it move up/down how do i map buttons 4 and 5 back to scrolling and not zooming? I DONT use eagle, I Dislike google earth using the scroll wheel for zooming, it is meant for scrolling th

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 18:18 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > On that note - I think I got the scroll wheel wrong when I added it. > > Hmmm... I thought I added that first (to pcb). Quite probably - I added it to gschem, but I was thinking I should have copied the GTK / Gnome app convention, as I'm

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread John Doty
On Aug 10, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > What do other packages (besides Autocad) do here? In OmniGraffle, the box normally selects what it touches. alt/option makes it select only what it encloses. Either command or shift means add to or subtract from selection: whatever the box

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread DJ Delorie
> On that note - I think I got the scroll wheel wrong when I added it. Hmmm... I thought I added that first (to pcb). > Most other Gnome / GTK apps use scroll wheel unmodified for up/down, Eagle does the same as PCB though. Same direction, too. Google maps zooms the same way. I think we got

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 21:23 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:24:27 +1200, Karl Mowatt-Wilson wrote: > > > Having researched the AutoCAD behaviour, it appears that some people > > *hate* it, > > I'd be one of them. > > > > apparently on the basis that they feel no distin

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 09:23:07PM +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > sugest to use shift as a modifier to include objects that just touch the > boundary. Shift almost universally means "add to selection" in box-select models. I am a little wary of all gesture type interaction, though. It can be

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:24:27 +1200, Karl Mowatt-Wilson wrote: > Having researched the AutoCAD behaviour, it appears that some people > *hate* it, I'd be one of them. > apparently on the basis that they feel no distinction between > left-right vs right-left drawing of the bounding box, I'd fee

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 22:25 +0200, Jonatan Åkerlind wrote: > On tor, 2007-08-09 at 19:48 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > If you want it, I can code it at some point. I already broke that > > function once recently, so am familiar with where the code is. I also > > wondered what the desired behavio

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-09 Thread Jonatan Åkerlind
On tor, 2007-08-09 at 19:48 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > If you want it, I can code it at some point. I already broke that > function once recently, so am familiar with where the code is. I also > wondered what the desired behaviour should be. > > What do other combinations do... > > >From bott

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-09 Thread Karl Mowatt-Wilson
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 07:48:09PM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 09:04 -0500, John Griessen wrote: > > Karl. wrote: > > > - left-to-right selects all elements completely contained within > > > the selection box (this seems to be the normal gschem behaviour) > > > > > > -

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-09 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 09:04 -0500, John Griessen wrote: > Karl. wrote: > if the pcb elements were to be arranged > > roughly the same as the schematic elements. > > > > - left-to-right selects all elements completely contained within the > > selection box (this seems to be the normal gschem

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-09 Thread John Griessen
Karl. wrote: if the pcb elements were to be arranged > roughly the same as the schematic elements. > - left-to-right selects all elements completely contained within the > selection box (this seems to be the normal gschem behaviour) > > - right-to-left selects as above plus anything that cro

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-08 Thread Dan McMahill
Karl. wrote: > Hello, > > I use gschem occasionally, but I've not done more than start up pcb and > look at the pretty things, so I may be just be making useless noise > here. Hopefully not. > > > The tools for arranging/dispersing elements in pcb sound interesting - > it has often occurred

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-08 Thread Karl.
Hello, I use gschem occasionally, but I've not done more than start up pcb and look at the pretty things, so I may be just be making useless noise here. Hopefully not. The tools for arranging/dispersing elements in pcb sound interesting - it has often occurred to me that a desired simplistic

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-08 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:27:31 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > I was thinking of a collect-things-by-regex where you enter a regex and > all those elements get selected, pulled to the mouse (but not > overlapping!), and cut to the buffer. Then you can place them, as a > pre-dispersed group, somewhere.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-08 Thread joel silvestre
Le mardi 07 août 2007 à 14:27 -0400, DJ Delorie a écrit : > I was thinking of a collect-things-by-regex where you enter a regex > and all those elements get selected, pulled to the mouse (but not > overlapping!), and cut to the buffer. Then you can place them, as a > pre-dispersed group, somewher

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-07 Thread Steve Meier
Sure, it is much more fun to watch them vanish on a completed board as you run to much current through them. Steve M. DJ Delorie wrote: >> I've been thinking about a "PCB Tetris" plugin (or possibly it will >> have to be a HID change). >> > > I was thinking of a collect-things-by-regex where

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-07 Thread DJ Delorie
> Well, then, if you ever use 0603, "ever"? It's my favorite size: http://www.delorie.com/house/furnace/pcb2/board-full-zone.html > (Now, why would I know that???) My lastest "incident" was an SC-75 op-amp. Picked it up out of the tape with the tweezers, and ping! it vanished. Sigh. __

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-07 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: > > Playing tetris in pcb sounds like fun too, though. I just don't want > all my resistors to vanish once I get them all lined up in a row. Well, then, if you ever use 0603, be careful with that hot air pencil... -dave (Now, why would I know that???) __

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-07 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: >> I've been thinking about a "PCB Tetris" plugin (or possibly it will >> have to be a HID change). > > I was thinking of a collect-things-by-regex where you enter a regex > and all those elements get selected, pulled to the mouse (but not > overlapping!), Great ideas y'all. Jo

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-07 Thread DJ Delorie
> I've been thinking about a "PCB Tetris" plugin (or possibly it will > have to be a HID change). I was thinking of a collect-things-by-regex where you enter a regex and all those elements get selected, pulled to the mouse (but not overlapping!), and cut to the buffer. Then you can place them, a

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-07 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 07:54:31PM +0200, joel silvestre wrote: > is there a way to do something like " interactive placement " with PCB ? > You type the element reference and the element comes under the mouse > cursor ready to be placed. > I saw this in a old PCB CAD software named Tango and it wa

gEDA-user: PCB feature

2007-08-07 Thread joel silvestre
Hi, is there a way to do something like " interactive placement " with PCB ? You type the element reference and the element comes under the mouse cursor ready to be placed. I saw this in a old PCB CAD software named Tango and it was great to work with, especially with high count component schemati

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature wishes

2006-09-30 Thread Harry Eaton
Let's suppose for example I've just drawn a new line and overshot the target. I don't seem to be able to just select that unconnected endpoint and pull it back to where the place where it should connect. Well, actually I CAN select the line, but when I drag it always makes the entire new line

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature wishes

2006-09-30 Thread DJ Delorie
> > Do you have my patch that fixes the snap-to-pin window size? > > Nope. How do I get that? I just went back to the download page and > the version of PCB they have on there is 8/22, which is the version > I have. You'd need to check out the working version out of CVS. > Let's suppose for e

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature wishes

2006-09-30 Thread Vaughn Treude
On Sat, 2006-09-30 at 10:35, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I finally figured out how to stretch and move lines by doing a > > ":Select(Connection)" command. (For some reason, it's almost > > impossible for me to grab it with just a click.) This is probably > > what you guys meant when you said a person cou

Re: gEDA-user: PCB feature wishes

2006-09-30 Thread DJ Delorie
> I finally figured out how to stretch and move lines by doing a > ":Select(Connection)" command. (For some reason, it's almost > impossible for me to grab it with just a click.) This is probably > what you guys meant when you said a person could click and drag the > ends of lines. Do you have my

gEDA-user: PCB feature wishes

2006-09-30 Thread Vaughn Treude
Hello all: I finally figured out how to stretch and move lines by doing a ":Select(Connection)" command. (For some reason, it's almost impossible for me to grab it with just a click.) This is probably what you guys meant when you said a person could click and drag the ends of lines. If you can g