From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:11 AM
My understanding from discussion with Sam and Ken was that creation of a new
TLP or migrating to an existing one would be an exit, not entry, issue.
That's correct. However, it wouldn't make much
David Remy wrote:
Thinking about how to do the binary distribution for XMLBeans. We have a build target that creates xkit.zip which contains the xbeans.jar, some helpful utilities, some sample schemas, and the docs. This is what has been distributed to users in the past.
Tetsuya already replyed
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:18:16 -0400
(Subject: RE: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS))
Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that Nicola Ken Coar would do a fine job as PMC Chair. ;-)
;-)
Ok, name games aside, I honestly don't know if Ken or Nicola Ken have any
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
...
Ok, name games aside, I honestly don't know if Ken or Nicola Ken have any
substantively different views on what should happen with Incubator.
From what I gather, Ken Coar is probably the one on the Incubator PMC
that has more similar views to mine. On the whole though,
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I think that Nicola Ken Coar would do a fine job as PMC Chair. ;-)
heh!
Ok, name games aside, I honestly don't know if Ken or Nicola Ken have any
substantively different views on what should happen with Incubator.
what should happen, or what it should do? i don't
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 08:16 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
See my previous post. The Incubator itself can accept projects, if it
so
chooses. The project can then sit in the Incubator as long as the
Incubator wants to allow it. But for exit, it will need *some* PMC to
accept it, or for the
Since I've had no reply to my request, could somebody at least
point me to any existing process by which submissions to the
incubator are made? I realize you're all busy with this voting over
leadership, so I could begin putting together whatever package is
expected for a proposal. I've read the
Can we all recall one big important thing: the PMC Chair's
role is not to run the PMC (as we normally use that
term). That is, in fact, the role of the PMC itself. The Chair
has ultimate authority and responsibility and is also the one
who reports to the board, but the power of the PMC is in the
Murray,
Please have a little patience with us dude. We're embroilled in
discussion on PMC chair, and other incoming projects presently.
- Paul
Since I've had no reply to my request, could somebody at least
point me to any existing process by which submissions to the
incubator are made? I
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Please see:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheDirectoryProject
What needs be done to adopt this project for inbubation, other than a vote
to accept it, getting CLAs from the project members, and setting up the
infrastructure?
i'm +1 on accepting
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Sander Striker wrote:
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:11 AM
My understanding from discussion with Sam and Ken was that creation of a new
TLP or migrating to an existing one would be an exit, not entry, issue.
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 09:17 AM, Sander Striker wrote:
From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:07 PM
I really hate to keep harping on this, but the whole
idea of the PMC Chair having power somehow implies that
the PMC itself is under the
Paul Hammant wrote:
Murray,
Please have a little patience with us dude. We're embroilled in
discussion on PMC chair, and other incoming projects presently.
Paul,
Yes, I understand that. I wasn't wanting or expecting anyone to spend
a bunch of time on this right now, just wanting info on how I
How about xml-commons? for example see resolver under http://xml.apache.org/commons/.
you will
need to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lists.
-- dims
--- Murray Altheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
Hi!
Please go to
Ah, hah. I've read the xindice ml threads.
...
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xindice-devm=104757928505845w=2
and recent ones.
... Okay. If you have a question about the licensing issues,
please contact to licensingATapache.org. (mailing list)
There are many people who have concerns about
G'day Murray,
The process documentation for this is not yet something you can hang
your hat on.
However, you can have a look at some previous proposals :
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ASFProposalPages
Cliff also started putting some stuff that may be of assistance together
In shameless-plugThoughtWorks/shameless-plug we try to pair (no need
to introduce XP is there?) on as much as possible... works well. It can
even work distributed.
- ph
Hi,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:51:13 +0200
Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought the same thing. Also, to tell
Personally, I think it would be almost obscenely ironic
if the Incubator, which is designed to help ensure the Apache
Way in building communities and projects, has a PMC structure
which is totally unique within the ASF.
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To
Jim Jagielski wrote:
Personally, I think it would be almost obscenely ironic
if the Incubator, which is designed to help ensure the Apache
Way in building communities and projects, has a PMC structure
which is totally unique within the ASF.
?? you mean the chix and valences bit? or the
Ken,
i see the incubator as having two roles. one is the
entry path for new packages and their communities
I think that everyone agrees on this, although not everyone may understand
all of the nuances. For example, I wasn't clear on why a project should go
through Incubator if there is an
I think that in Incubator, there need at least two or three
persons who have real power. (One Chair and two Vice Chair?)
I think we need people on the PMC who are doing the work, not expecting
Chairs and Vice Chairs to do things for them. The people who work on the
PMC, and in the projects,
On 9/18/2003 4:46 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 08:16 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
See my previous post. The Incubator itself can accept projects, if it so
chooses. The project can then sit in the Incubator as long as the
Incubator wants to allow it. But for exit, it
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 03:07 PM, Ted Leung wrote:
On 9/18/2003 4:46 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 08:16 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
See my previous post. The Incubator itself can accept projects, if
it so
chooses. The project can then sit in the
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I don't know if everyone agrees, but I do favor a single point of
reference
for those documents.
likewise. and since they're educational to new apache participants,
the incubator seems like a good place to me.
It will be interesting
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 03:40 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Jim Jagielski wrote:
Without a clear sense of responsibility, the end result
are that podlings are essentially left on their own and
every Incubator member thinks someone else is
doing the oversight. :/
I really thought that I
Sam Ruby wrote:
Sander Striker wrote:
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:11 AM
My understanding from discussion with Sam and Ken was that creation
of a new
TLP or migrating to an existing one would be an exit, not entry, issue.
That's correct.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
Sander Striker wrote:
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:11 AM
My understanding from discussion with Sam and Ken was that creation
of a new
TLP or migrating to an existing one would be an exit, not
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
That is exactly what I said. It requires a shepherd; someone
who is the go-to/go-between.
On that we agree. The only point of difference appears to be the nature of
the Shephard. You seem(ed) to be saying that it had to be a member of the
Incubator PMC, whereas
I did not mean a PMC member, but any dedicated ASF member.
I was simply reminding all that we needed someone to step up to
be the podling's shepherd.
Ah, ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding. From Nicola Ken's message, he
seems to be offering that he'll act as the PMC representative for the
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I would support JetSpeed+Pluto+WSRP4J+possibly others
eventually becoming [a TLP].
Agreed. Other candidates that have been suggested by one person or another
include:
Turbine
Velocity
Lucene (or to db.apache.org?)
Struts
separately or in some semantically
My name is will wood, and I'm inquiring about contributing to Geronimo.
My background includes over 23 years in IT including Software
architecture and development including
C/C++/Java and other dead languages, pascal, fortran, lisp, pl1
I'd like to contribute where I can.
Thanks.
Will K.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:10:03PM -0700, David Remy wrote:
I am getting close to having a revised XMLBeans website using Forrest
ready for publication. I have a few questions that I am hoping someone
will know about.
1) I am thinking of having the website as a top level directory under
I think any ASF member that wants to be active in any part of incubation
should be immediately placed on the PMC as soon as they request it.
Non-ASF members should have to prove themselves worthy first, taking
into
consideration their involvement in other ASF projects, but they too
should
be
Sam Ruby wrote:
James is the only project that I recall that did it of their own
initiative.
Correction - Avalon was of its own iniative.
Cheers, Steve.
--
Stephen J. McConnell
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To
Aleksander Slominski wrote:
Murray Altheim wrote:
Hi all,
This is a proposal for a metadata API for use in Xindice, though it can
be used more generally for adding an XML metadata wrapper around an XML
node. In short, it's SOAP-like, but *actually* simple.
Brian suggested I join this list
From: Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The website needs to be periodically updated from CVS (xml-site module).
I think Berin Lautenbach has established a cron job to update XML sites,
so all you need to do in future is render the docs and update
xml-site/targets/xmlbeans.
If you guys can get
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I would support JetSpeed+Pluto+WSRP4J+possibly others
eventually becoming [a TLP].
Agreed. Other candidates that have been suggested by one person or another
include:
Turbine
Velocity
Lucene (or to db.apache.org?)
Struts
I have a question, which has (IMO) not
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