Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Aug 1, 2005, at 6:02 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:22 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Furthermore, my understanding of copyright law is that you can't be tainted by 'reading' source code years ago and then writing a version independently. (In fact, the examples I've

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread Roy T . Fielding
On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:22 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Furthermore, my understanding of copyright law is that you can't be tainted by 'reading' source code years ago and then writing a version independently. (In fact, the examples I've heard of are 'minutes apart' is legally acceptable.) Of c

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-08-01 Thread Roy T . Fielding
The FSF demands copyright ownership on all code - which means that they don't allow their contributions to be available under any other license. In contrast, the ASF only asks for a copyright license and we don't care what other licenses you grant other people. IIRC, the FSF assignment gives ba

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-08-01 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
All done. It was actually pretty easy but messy. In the process I did clean up the sorting of the projects (they are sorted now) and the duplications of the committers on the "whoweare.xml" page. Jelly is weird stuff... :-) Regards Henning On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 19:00 -04

Re: [Fwd: Question about stdcxx development snapshots]

2005-08-01 Thread Martin Sebor
Leo Simons wrote: So, ehm, one more time, Could you peeps *please* stop using [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions like this? Development at apache happens in public. general@incubator.apache.org is the e-mail address to use for questions like this. Please subscribe to it, read through some of its ar

RE: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-08-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > The FSF demands copyright ownership on all code - which means > that they don't allow their contributions to be available > under any other license. In contrast, the ASF only asks for > a copyright license and we don't care what other licenses you > grant other people.

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Aug 1, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On August 1, 2005 12:06:27 AM -0400 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Comments? (Like I need to ask for them... ) I think Part II should be removed or rather be the opposite: which components are you forbidden to pa

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On August 1, 2005 12:06:27 AM -0400 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Comments? (Like I need to ask for them... ) I think Part II should be removed or rather be the opposite: which components are you forbidden to participate in due to the answers in the questionnaire. I do

RE: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-08-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On July 31, 2005 12:54:59 PM -0400 "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uh ... it already does. We added that ages ago. Are you asking for a change, or just unaware? Unaware. Doh. (Cue Guido's time machine.) -- justin ---

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-08-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On August 1, 2005 2:33:51 AM +0800 Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't it possible that the ASF mailing lists and policies stay the way they are, and that each of the Harmony contributors provide a LGPL license separately for all code/patches provided (in advance or each post) f

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 8/1/05, Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > of trade secrets and strictly limits the rights of employers to > > material created by an employee in their own time using their > > materials. > > On paper - yes - but national l

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Aug 1, 2005, at 8:16 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: Comments? (Like I need to ask for them... ) Re: Part VIII : Employment Limitations may need to think about the differences in employment law in different jurisdications. Yes - we've already encountered comments about that on the l

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: > of trade secrets and strictly limits the rights of employers to > material created by an employee in their own time using their > materials. On paper - yes - but national law and case-law shows that as soon as that material is even remotely in

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
> Comments? (Like I need to ask for them... ) Re: Part VIII : Employment Limitations may need to think about the differences in employment law in different jurisdications. AIUI European employment law typically does not recognise the concept of trade secrets and strictly limits the rights of

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-08-01 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 8/1/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 01 August 2005 04:44, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > On 7/31/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or is USA so much different from the rest of the world, where "in good > > > faith", "intent of the law", "reasonable" and "c