Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-21 Thread Carl Trieloff
Quick question on trademarks. If you search many of the Apache project names, they are trademarked to gezoo, however if you search Apache XXX it cleans up. Once/one day when the project graduates from Incubator it will also be Apache XXX which is unique. How is this different from any of

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On 7/20/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 21:28 -0400, Dan Diephouse wrote: +1 Noel. I'd like to join the PPMC too as an interested party observer. I will poke my nose in as a mentor when possible but don't have the cycles to commit to it. Hi

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/21/06, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question on trademarks. If you search many of the Apache project names, they are trademarked to gezoo, however if you search Apache XXX it cleans up. Once/one day when the project graduates from Incubator it will also be Apache XXX

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-21 Thread Dan Diephouse
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 21:28 -0400, Dan Diephouse wrote: +1 Noel. I'd like to join the PPMC too as an interested party observer. I will poke my nose in as a mentor when possible but don't have the cycles to commit to it. Hi Sanjiva, I'm confused, you're

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
There's a slight difference Dan. As you are a WS committer, you have a right and responsibility to poke your nose and you do have the karma to work on / fix anything you feel like in various ws projects. I hope you appreciate the difference :) -- dims On 7/21/06, Dan Diephouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: piling on

2006-07-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 15:00 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: I think so -- an unwelcome mentor is a waste of everyone's time. I also think mentors need commit access, since I don't believe it is ^^

Re: piling on

2006-07-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:54 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Jul 19, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: This piling on behavior seems to have come from the notion that if you get on the initial vote, you're in, but otherwise you

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 21, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Yep, both ws and jakarta have single ACL's. So any committer on any sub-project can *CHOOSE* to participate in any other sub-project. So can anyone who isn't a committer. You don't need commit access to participate. Roy

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 21, 2006, at 6:39 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: If you search many of the Apache project names, they are trademarked to gezoo, No they aren't, at least not within the software category. Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Yep Roy. What i meant is a committer on one jakarta project automatically has karma to other jakarta project if they wish to make changes. They can choose to work on the other project if they want to without needing an explicit VOTE. People who are not committers don't have that pleasure. --