Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: This is a proposal to enter the incubator. See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal for the most up-to-date version. I'm happy to mentor this proposal. Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 10:29 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: This is a proposal to enter the incubator. See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal for the most up-to-date version. I'm happy to mentor this proposal. :) Thank you very much Ross, I added

Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
I'm happy to mentor as well. I've added my name to the proposal. Paul On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Thorsten Scherler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 10:29 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: This is a proposal to enter the incubator. See

AW: [PROPOSAL] Catacomb

2008-09-23 Thread markus.litz
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we would be glad to welcome you as a mentor for catacomb incubation process! Your idea to fold catacomb into the HTTP Server Project is realy nice, maybe later in the incubation process we could start a discussion with someone from the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Grant Ingersoll
So, I'm new to championing (but read the brief docs on the proposal guide). One question I have is related to the Sponsoring PMC. The proposal indicates two Sponsoring Entities. When does that need to be resolved? Or is this going to be a TLP? Or, does it not matter? -Grant On Sep

Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
Grant My view is that at this stage it doesn't matter. I think it helps that there are two communities that have an active interest in the proposed podling. Over time the podling can either verge towards one or the other project or target becoming a TLP. Paul On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:53 PM,

[VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-23 Thread Craig L Russell
Please vote on accepting Olio into incubation. The proposal can be found at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OlioProposal [This proposal was formerly known as Web20Kit] The text of the proposal: OlioProposal Abstract Apache Olio is a web 2.0 toolkit to help developers evaluate the

Project Diversity Guidelines

2008-09-23 Thread Marnie McCormack
Hi All, Some of you with long memories may recall previous threads about project diversity. At the end of one such debate, I put forward some ideas about what items might benefit from some good practice guidelines (see below). My special interest is Qpid, as I'll happy submit, and the

Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-23 Thread Upayavira
+1. A release is a release is a release. If we are concerned about projects staying in the incubator, then let's ban them from releasing anymore. Or, say, only max five releases during incubation. But once a release is done under the ASL, there's not really much we can do to stop its onward

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-23 Thread Matt Hogstrom
+1 (binding) Note: I updated the proposal on the Wiki with my normal e-mail account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) instead of my work e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) since my mentoring of this project is unrelated to any aspect of my work responsibilities). On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Craig L

Re: [DISCUSS] Names for the Web2.0kit

2008-09-23 Thread Bruno Borges
Olio sounds good, but there's nothing related with Java, Web, frameworks or anything else... (or, is just me who couldn't find any information about this word?) So, because of the lack of co-relation between Olio and Java Webkits, I found that there's an word which could fit better: Jawi

Re: [DISCUSS] Names for the Web2.0kit

2008-09-23 Thread Bruno Borges
By the way, I forgot to mention that Jawi has everything to do with Java (the Island... @ Malaysia). Quoting Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawi,_Penang): Jawi is a town on the mainland side of Penang, Malaysia. And for those who can't go to Wikipedia to check what Jawi is, here is

Re: [DISCUSS] Names for the Web2.0kit

2008-09-23 Thread James Carman
No longer any known fluent speakers Perhaps we should have a COBOL implementation, then. :) On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bruno Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I forgot to mention that Jawi has everything to do with Java (the Island... @ Malaysia). Quoting Wikipedia

Re: [DISCUSS] Names for the Web2.0kit

2008-09-23 Thread Bruno Borges
Why not? :-) You could write an web application with COBOL for .NET ... or not. :-) But still, the part about the Jawi language is just for curiosity. jwcarman wrote: No longer any known fluent speakers Perhaps we should have a COBOL implementation, then. :) On Tue, Sep 23, 2008

Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 12:11 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote: I'm happy to mentor as well. I've added my name to the proposal. :) Thank you very much Paul. salu2 Paul On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Thorsten Scherler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 10:29 +0100, Ross

Etch - next step toward incubation?

2008-09-23 Thread James Dixson
So we had a vote and there were plenty of binding votes for incubation ([VOTE RESULT] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200809.mbox/%3CF7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) So now what? Is there supposed to be an acknowledgement by the PMC? According to the bootstrap section of the

Re: [DISCUSS] Names for the Web2.0kit

2008-09-23 Thread Shanti Subramanyam
Hmm - I'm not sure about this. Introducing the 'J' letter will give a Java connotation to the whole thing. The proposed PHP and Rails implementations will have no Java components in them. I'd rather stick with a more generic name. Shanti Bruno Borges wrote: Olio sounds good, but there's

Re: up-to-date list of projects in incubation

2008-09-23 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:58 AM, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today i wanted a list of all projects that are currently in incubation. However that is not easy. The two main places are: [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ [2]

Re: up-to-date list of projects in incubation

2008-09-23 Thread Dan Peterson
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:58 AM, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today i wanted a list of all projects that are currently in incubation. However that is not easy. The two main places are: [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ [2]

Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-23 Thread Doug Cutting
Jukka Zitting wrote: [ ] +1 Yes, allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository [ ] -1 No, keep the current policy +1 All releases by ASF PMC's should be equal. If the Incubator PMC isn't confident of a release then it shouldn't release it. The release process

Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-23 Thread Assaf Arkin
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Doug Cutting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: [ ] +1 Yes, allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository [ ] -1 No, keep the current policy +1 All releases by ASF PMC's should be equal. If the Incubator PMC isn't

Re: Etch - next step toward incubation?

2008-09-23 Thread David Crossley
Luciano Resende wrote: Please go ahead and submit CLA's and CCLA's. Also, work with your mentors and create the necessary JIRAs to create the new podling infrastructure resources. See some examples in [1] Also, item 7 is very important, but looks like Etch is already in the schedule [2]

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-23 Thread James Carman
+1 (non-binding) I've informed the Wicket team about this incubator request and there is interest in providing a wicket-based implementation (wicket along with differing ORM technologies of course, like JPA and Hibernate; the way I envision it, we'll use profiles in maven to turn on/off different

Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-23 Thread James Carman
I think incubating projects should go through phases. The first phase is to make sure all IP concerns are cleared up. The second phase is where the project exhibits that it gets the Apache way of doing business by doing some internal-only releases (this is where package names would change and

Re: Project Diversity Guidelines

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Marnie McCormack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Some of you with long memories may recall previous threads about project diversity. At the end of one such debate, I put forward some ideas about what items might benefit from some good practice guidelines

Re: [PROPOSAL] Droids

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant My view is that at this stage it doesn't matter. I think it helps that there are two communities that have an active interest in the proposed podling. Over time the podling can either verge towards one or the

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-23 Thread Shanti Subramanyam
That sounds great ! The goal of the project is certainly to encourage implementations using different frameworks. What may make sense is for interested folks to first evaluate the current application implementations (unfortunately we don't have any docs yet - we're working on it) and if it

Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jukka Zitting wrote: Please vote on accepting or rejecting this policy change! This majority vote is open for a week and only votes from the Incubator PMC members are binding. Just as a point of reference, extending a vote for a given period of time is a good thing to accommodate all input.

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-83) Set up the Etch Podling

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Set up the Etch Podling --- Key: INCUBATOR-83 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-83 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Task Reporter: Niclas Hedhman The Etch podling has been approved to enter

[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-83) Set up the Etch Podling

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-83?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12634007#action_12634007 ] Niclas Hedhman commented on INCUBATOR-83: - James Dixon quotes some website

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-84) Create Etch project status page.

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Create Etch project status page. Key: INCUBATOR-84 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-84 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Niclas Hedhman Every Podling has a

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-85) Request Mailing lists from INFRA

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Request Mailing lists from INFRA Key: INCUBATOR-85 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-85 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Niclas Hedhman -- This message is

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-86) Request SVN from INFRA

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Request SVN from INFRA -- Key: INCUBATOR-86 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-86 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Niclas Hedhman Joe has expressed that the SVN directory

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-87) Submission of ICLAs and CCLAs for initial committers

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Submission of ICLAs and CCLAs for initial committers Key: INCUBATOR-87 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-87 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-88) Add podling to reporting schedule

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Add podling to reporting schedule - Key: INCUBATOR-88 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-88 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Niclas Hedhman New podlings report

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-84) Create Etch project status page.

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-84?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Niclas Hedhman updated INCUBATOR-84: Description: Every Podling has a project STATUS page that tracks important issues. The

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-89) Update Incubator Navigation to include Etch podling

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Update Incubator Navigation to include Etch podling --- Key: INCUBATOR-89 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-89 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter:

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-90) Create a Etch category in JIRA Incubator project

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Create a Etch category in JIRA Incubator project Key: INCUBATOR-90 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-90 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Niclas

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-91) Request User accounts from INFRA

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Request User accounts from INFRA Key: INCUBATOR-91 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-91 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Niclas Hedhman Once the CLAs are

Re: Etch - next step toward incubation?

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:04 AM, James Dixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we had a vote and there were plenty of binding votes for incubation ([VOTE RESULT] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200809.mbox/%3CF7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) So now what? Is there supposed to

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-83) Set up the Etch Podling

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-83?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Niclas Hedhman updated INCUBATOR-83: Description: The Etch podling has been approved to enter Incubation. We need to go

[jira] Assigned: (INCUBATOR-84) Create Etch project status page.

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-84?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Niclas Hedhman reassigned INCUBATOR-84: --- Assignee: Niclas Hedhman Create Etch project status page.

[jira] Issue Comment Edited: (INCUBATOR-87) Submission of ICLAs and CCLAs for initial committers

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-87?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12634013#action_12634013 ] niclas edited comment on INCUBATOR-87 at 9/23/08 9:41 PM:

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-90) Create a Etch project in JIRA under Incubator category

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-90?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Niclas Hedhman updated INCUBATOR-90: Summary: Create a Etch project in JIRA under Incubator category (was: Create a Etch

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-92) Add Etch-Notification scheme in JIRA

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
Add Etch-Notification scheme in JIRA Key: INCUBATOR-92 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-92 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Niclas Hedhman Once the

[jira] Resolved: (INCUBATOR-90) Create a Etch project in JIRA under Incubator category

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-90?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Niclas Hedhman resolved INCUBATOR-90. - Resolution: Fixed Create a Etch project in JIRA under Incubator category

Re: [VOTE]apache-empire-db-2.0.4-incubatingandapache-empire-struts2-ext-1.0.4-incubatingrelease

2008-09-23 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 13:54 +0100, sebb wrote: On 22/09/2008, Thomas Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd reckon that we all now agree that the tomcat jars can be included. Assuming that they have not included the jars incorrectly. I will check that the jars in question

Wicket implementation re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-23 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi James, It's great that Wicket has an interest in Olio. It's probably too late to update the wiki page, but folks reading this thread will see your comments. I'd encourage you to start working on the Wicket impl during incubation. Hopefully once the code arrives it will be a bit more

Re: [VOTE]apache-empire-db-2.0.4-incubatingandapache-empire-struts2-ext-1.0.4-incubatingrelease

2008-09-23 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 13:54 +0100, sebb wrote: It's a pity that the Tomcat jars don't contain proper manifests + N L files; I'll see about raising that with the Tomcat developers. Huh, what? On my freshly downloaded apache tomcat 5.5.27, the servlet API contains Specification-Title: Java

[jira] Resolved: (INCUBATOR-88) Add podling to reporting schedule

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-88?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Niclas Hedhman resolved INCUBATOR-88. - Resolution: Fixed Add podling to reporting schedule

[jira] Resolved: (INCUBATOR-84) Create Etch project status page.

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-84?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Niclas Hedhman resolved INCUBATOR-84. - Resolution: Fixed Create Etch project status page.

Spamming the General List

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Gang, Sorry, I didn't realize that SubTasks would still go to the general@ list... Hmmm... As these tasks will be worked on, anyone got a good clue how to avoid further notification to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Cheers Niclas

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-23 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 09:34 -0400, Hiram Chirino wrote: The only reason I suggested including the sigs in the source distro is because a source build like Apache ServiceMix depends on hundreds of third party dependencies.. so an end user would need to end up Yes. Now you are getting closer.

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-23 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 13:42 -0400, Hiram Chirino wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:12 AM, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/09/2008, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only reason I suggested including the sigs in the source distro is because a source build like Apache ServiceMix

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I enjoy your scenarios... And again, there is no high nineties security. Your solution is either secure or it is not. For accuracy; This is not true either. AFAIK, no security solution is totally secure. You will

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: How do you validate that the pub key presented to you is genuine? Every project worth it's salt has a www.apache.org/dist/{tlp}/KEYS file which contain that project's contributors signatures, countersigned or not. Ideally, they are extensively countersigned.

Re: [VOTE] Accept VCL into Apache Incbator

2008-09-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Please indicate your preference for accepting VCL to the Incubator... +1 I revert my previous -1 as 3 mentors are now listed at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/VCLProposal: Alan Cabrera ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-23 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
So you assume that that www.apache.org can not be hacked? What if a signing key *IS* in KEYS but not signed by anyone (because the developer has never attended an Apache key signing event)? Ciao Henning On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 00:36 -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: