Additional concern, it does not appear that the mentors are planning
to
be on the PMC. Why not?
Why is this a concern? Mentors volunteer to do mentoring to ensure the
project is viable and understands the Apache way, not necessarily to
develop code. If you trace the existing Apache
3 is the minimal number that is needed for a formal acceptance. So I
see no problem with it. Click has been a successful open source
project done the Apache way before entering Apache, so I think it is
definitely ready to graduate now. While a possibility of a vote
deadlock exists, it does
Hi Niall,
Niall Pemberton wrote:
Comparing the original proposal to the graduation resolution it seems
that click entered incubation with 4 committers and proposes to leave
with 3.
When the proposal was written, Ahmed Mohombe was a committer of the
project at SourceForge, however he never
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
Additional concern, it does not appear that the mentors are planning to
be on the PMC. Why not?
Why is this a concern? Mentors volunteer to do mentoring to ensure the
project is viable and understands the Apache
+1
We are working a lot around the project and we'd like to contribute to it.
As a Shindig contributor, i'd love to see the same synergy applied to
SocialSite.
ropu
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Otis Gospodnetic
otis_gospodne...@yahoo.com wrote:
Another +1 from me, too. SocialSite needs
ant elder wrote:
It does look at little odd to enter incubation with 4 committers and
leave with only 3 on the PMC but still the original 4 are all active
enough to have just voted for graduation on the click dev list.
Ahmed did not vote in that thread and we have not heard from him since
+1
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Ropu rovagn...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
We are working a lot around the project and we'd like to contribute to it.
As a Shindig contributor, i'd love to see the same synergy applied to
SocialSite.
ropu
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Otis Gospodnetic
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
...
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SocialSiteProposal
I look forward to your comments and suggestions on this proposal.
+1 to incubating (although this is not a vote yet ;-)
-Bertrand
Hmm.. 3 PMC members was always ok. Did it change recently?
I agree on a tangential point though (and accept some blame myself as
a mentor) that the project should've done more active recruiting of
committers with the potential to join the PMC. In fact there seem to
be good candidates, and
On Apr 24, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org
wrote:
As I said already, the bigger point is valid: the opportunities to
expand
the committer/PMC base were missed, and this should be corrected
now if
possible.
+1
Vincent
2009/4/21 Dave snoopd...@gmail.com:
I think we've had ample time for feedback on this proposal.
I'd like to call for a vote on Apache SocialsSite, to be sponsored by
the Incubator PMC.
- Dave
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings to all,
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
Might, but it is simply not the case. You are making an abstract argument.
As a mentor and the Incubator PMC member I am telling what I saw over the
years watching this specific project. If you have proof
There has been a fair turn over of comitters over the life of the
project. Previous committers have included:
* Phil Barnes,
* Ahmed Mohombe,
* Christian Essl,
* Stephen Haberman
Often these committers have used Click on commercial projects and have
become involved, then after a period of time
On Apr 24, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org
wrote:
If you have proof otherwise, please share.
How about that in those four years, no new committers were admitted to
the project? A project with a scope and as
Yeah, looks like I missed at least 3 more people. The immaturity
argument is really artificial here.
Andrus
On Apr 24, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
There has been a fair turn over of comitters over the life of the
project. Previous committers have included:
* Phil Barnes,
* Ahmed
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
Then there are different types of contributions. Some warrant a
committership, others show that a given person should not be given SVN write
access under no circumstances. Then there is a pace issue (which I think is
On Apr 24, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Does any of the Mentors have any stake (user, contributor, whatever)
in the project? Preferably depending on the project on some commercial
project... ;-)
Can't speak for Henning and Will, but I am not tied to the project at
the moment,
Taking this offline.
I take personal offense to this characterization of my concerns. As an
IPMC member, and Mentor I have enough merit to ask questions and to
expect normal answers instead of being discounted a priori.
You haven't taken any effort to answer my questions, yet immediately
put me
/me needs coffee. GAWT
Anyway, I'm refraining from commenting anymore.
Martijn
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
Taking this offline.
I take personal offense to this characterization of my concerns. As an
IPMC member, and Mentor I have
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
...the project is fine, but should
take a break with graduation to reevaluate its ranks and recruit willing and
deserving individuals, and come back here maybe in 2-3 months if this
endeavor is successful
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
As you may have noticed, a proposal for a new incubating project,
tentatively called Apache Chemistry, is currently being prepared.
The proposal (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChemistryProposal) is
pretty
Hi--
I went away from email for half a day and got a ton of new messages!
As a mentor to Click, I can attest that there's a small but active
community involved. It's consistently operated in a transparent and
open manner. There's been no signs of dictatator for life behavior.
The founder of
If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste!
I *wish* some threads were dying down :)
On Apr 23, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Just want to confirm my interest in response.
My apache id is grobmeier - feel free to add me to the log4php
project :-)
Cheers
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Andrus Adamchik
and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
3 is the minimal number that is needed for a formal acceptance. So I see no
problem with it. Click has been a successful open source project done the
Apache way before entering Apache, so I think it is definitely
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
3 is the minimal number that is needed for a formal acceptance. So I see no
problem with it. Click has been a successful open source project done the
Apache way before entering Apache, so I think it is definitely
Ok thanks everyone for the feedback eveyone. I acknowledge the
importance of growing the committer community, which is something we
have not focused on, rather we have been looking at all the other nuts
and bolts incubation issues.
I can see this is very important for ensuring a sustainable Apache
On Apr 24, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
Ok thanks everyone for the feedback eveyone. I acknowledge the
importance of growing the committer community, which is something we
have not focused on, rather we have been looking at all the other nuts
and bolts incubation issues.
I can see
-Original Message-
From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com]
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:54 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste!
I *wish* some threads were dying down :)
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:25 +1000, Gavin wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com]
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:54 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
If we already have your iCLA, I will add you
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