Re: [DISCUSSION] Retire Chukwa from incubation

2012-11-29 Thread Eric Yang
Hi Alexei, Chukwa started before Flume and Kafka started. Flume community has flourish with Cloudera behind it. In my experience Flume has been more fluid, and Chukwa has been more solid. Chukwa can't swim in flume 1.2 branch because flume is becoming more like Chukwa. Unfortunately, most of

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-29 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hi all, Question: how do we go about discouraging it then? Do we need a vote to modify the content of: http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#md5 I am fine with a change of the format. But at the moment we (Celix) still have a pending release. Seeing that many other project use

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, Greg Reddin wrote: ...What difference does it make to the ASF if a project is very small or very slow?... IMO, as long as there's three or more active PMC members who react when needed, and provide the quarterly board reports, a small/slow project is fine and

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, Greg Reddin wrote: ...What difference does it make to the ASF if a project is very small or very slow?... IMO, as long as there's three or more active PMC members who react

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Ross Gardler
On 29 November 2012 08:56, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote: On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, Greg Reddin wrote: ...What difference does it make to the ASF if a project is very small or very slow?... IMO, as long as there's three or more active PMC members who react when

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta

2012-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Monday, November 26, 2012, Andy Seaborne wrote: ...One of the mentors is not yet formally a member of IPMC so we're waiting until we have three formal mentors before calling the proposal vote IMO you can go forward with the vote and indicate that having Fabian as a mentor is pending

[VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Andy Seaborne
Hi there, Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta proposal: Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal: [ ] +1 Accept Marmotta into the Apache Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of Marmotta [ ] -1 Do not accept the

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Ross Gardler
+1 (binding) On 29 November 2012 11:28, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta proposal: Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal: [ ] +1 Accept Marmotta into the Apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Fabian Christ
+1 (unbinding since I am not yet an IPMC member) 2012/11/29 Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com +1 (binding) On 29 November 2012 11:28, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta proposal: Please

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
+1 binding Regards, Alan On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal: [ ] +1 Accept Marmotta into the Apache Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of Marmotta [ ] -1 Do not accept the Marmotta

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: ...Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal... +1 with a small caveat: ... = Nominated Mentors Fabian Christ (fchrist at apache dot org)... Fabian is not currently a member of the

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:14 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 29 November 2012 08:56, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote: On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, Greg Reddin wrote: ...What difference does it make to the ASF if a project is very small or very slow?... IMO, as long as there's

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Nandana Mihindukulasooriya
Hi, On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal: +1 (binding) Best Regards, Nandana

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 binding Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta proposal: Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal: [ ] +1 Accept

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Alexei Fedotov
+1 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: +1 binding Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: Hi there, Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta proposal: Please cast your

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members requirement? What constitutes active?... IMO the bare minimum is being able to find three PMC members to vote on things when needed. Once a project gets below

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members requirement? What constitutes active?... IMO the bare minimum is being able to find three PMC

New graduation jiras

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-graduation outlines the jira tickets infra would like to see when a project requests resources migration at TLP graduation. The biggest change is that DNS/website/mailinglists are handled by 1 ticket. Some caveats not documented there are: -

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Alexei Fedotov alexei.fedo...@gmail.comwrote: +1 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: +1 binding Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: Hi there,

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 (binding). Cheers, Chris On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: Hi there, Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta proposal: Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal: [ ] +1 Accept Marmotta into the Apache

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Ross Gardler
On 29 November 2012 14:59, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members requirement? What constitutes

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 29 November 2012 14:59, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ... Would you also add the three or

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding) Ralph On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: Hi there, Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta proposal: Please cast your votes on whether to accept the Apache Marmotta proposal: [ ] +1 Accept Marmotta into the Apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Jakob Homan
+1 (binding) On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: +1 (binding) Ralph On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: Hi there, Following the discussion thread, here is the formal vote on the Marmotta proposal: Please cast your votes on

Re: [VOTE] Accept Marmotta into the incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Peter Ansell
On 29 November 2012 21:28, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: == Relationships with Other Apache Projects Although current RDF/SPARQL support in LMF is build on top of OpenRDF Sesame API, Marmotta is closely related to many Apache projects, such as Stanbol, Jena and Any23. See “Alignment”

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 29/11/12 14:53, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members requirement? What constitutes active?... IMO the bare minimum is being able to find three PMC members to vote

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Benson Margulies
Hard cases make bad law. The rough parameters of the recent 'small graduates' was that they had around 5 initial PMC members, and some detectable evidence that all of them were in the reasonably regular habit of contributing code, let alone voting for releases. If we insist on testing the absolute

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote: Apache Nuvem will define an open application programming interface for common cloud application services, allowing applications to be easily ported across the most popular cloud platforms. It is currently composed of

[RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote: Apache Nuvem will define an open application programming interface for common cloud application services, allowing applications to be easily ported across the most popular cloud platforms. It is currently composed of

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Wink from Incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote: The Apache Wink project entered incubator in May of 2009. Since then it has grown the community in users, committers and PPMC members, made significant improvements to the project codebase and completed many releases

[RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Apache Wink from Incubator

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote: The Apache Wink project entered incubator in May of 2009. Since then it has grown the community in users, committers and PPMC members, made significant improvements to the project codebase and completed many releases

Sub-project graduation question

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
Just trying to clarify, based on [1] it seems that when a project is graduating into an existing TLP, once the IPMC vote is done, there is no need to seek Board approval and the hand-over and infrastructure tasks can start happening. Is that the correct understanding ? [1]

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-29 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote: Apache Nuvem will define an open application programming interface for common cloud application services, allowing applications to be easily

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-29 Thread Luciano Resende
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: Apache Nuvem will define an open application programming

Re: Sub-project graduation question

2012-11-29 Thread Benson Margulies
As per recent email, this is, formally, an act of the IPMC to certify that the IP is clear and the community good Apache citizens, followed by an act of the accepting project, and the board expects that the accepting project will report on the process promptly. I'm sure various will correct me if

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com wrote: I am fine with a change of the format. But at the moment we (Celix) still have a pending release. Seeing that many other project use different formats, I personally don't see this as a show stopper for our

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
+infra Ping! I would really like this annoyance to be resolved one way or the other. Could somebody more experienced with Apache web properties answer the question? Question: how do we go about discouraging it then? Do we need a vote

Re: Retirement decision making

2012-11-29 Thread Alan Cabrera
Hence my idea to do away with the rule of thumb and stick to at least one responsible PMC member. What problem are we trying to avoid by having this activity/diversity boundary? Regards, Alan On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: Hard cases make bad law. The rough parameters

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-29 Thread Marcel Offermans
On Nov 30, 2012, at 3:03 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com wrote: I am fine with a change of the format. But at the moment we (Celix) still have a pending release. Seeing that many other project use

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-29 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hi, I think that would be a fine choice. I'm fine with releasing it as is for now +1 (binding). Thanks! Could you post your vote to the formal release thread as well? That said -- I'd like to see the next release take into account the feedback that has been provided to the project so

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Roman Shaposhnik wrote on Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 18:05:15 -0800: +infra Ping! I would really like this annoyance to be resolved one way or the other. Could somebody more experienced with Apache web properties answer the question?