Re: [PROPOSAL] Mandatory podling exit interviews

2013-06-20 Thread Upayavira
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 03:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: Solution: require all podlings to submit anonymous exit interviews as part of the graduation requirements. These exit interviews will be suitably scrubbed

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: I would prefer to use well known names for well known roles. Ombudsman is a roll that's been around for quite a while and the person filling that role for the ASF will be

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 08:49:55PM -0700, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:49:51PM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: +pOnce the vote has been called the proposal should be considered fixed. + No

Re: [PROPOSAL] Mandatory podling exit interviews

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:18:16AM +0100, Upayavira wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 03:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: Solution: require all podlings to submit anonymous exit interviews as part of the graduation

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Spark for the Incubator

2013-06-20 Thread Matei Zaharia
Thanks Chris! We'll get started on all the required steps. Matei On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:35 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Folks, This VOTE has passed with the following tallies: +1 Chris Mattmann* Konstantin Boudnik Henry Saputra* Reynold Xin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Mandatory podling exit interviews

2013-06-20 Thread Upayavira
Anomnity of the individual not the project. I can say my mentor was crap without stating my name - I could be any one of the PPMC. Upayavira On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:18:16AM +0100, Upayavira wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 03:54

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi Ali, unfortunately i have not seen the IPMC reviewing the release within the three days voting period. Please leave the vote open and write a reminder from time to time. here is some more information on the voting status: http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html Cheers On Wed,

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Ross Gardler
This vote is now closed. The Vote passed. Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1] (note some actions require the support of your mentors). There are no -1 votes and plenty of both binding and non-binding +1 votes. It is not my intention to tally the votes. I

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Noah Slater
Woot. Thanks Ross! On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: This vote is now closed. The Vote passed. Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1] (note some actions require the support of your mentors). There are no -1 votes and

[RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Resending with [RESULT] tag as (reasonably) requested off list - sorry On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: This vote is now closed. The Vote passed. Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1] (note some actions require the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ...I think that it would be a great idea to have an ASF wide ombudsman instead... We don't have that, and I don't think we need it - people should feel free to contact people that they trust (officers, board members, ASF

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-20 Thread Jim Jagielski
If the idea of the 'Ombudsman' is sort of like an 'elder Statesman' role as well, then I may be interested... On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:29 AM, Daniel Shahaf danie...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-20 Thread Ross Gardler
+10.99 (the .9 is for Marvins amusement ;-) Ross On 20 June 2013 14:00, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: If the idea of the 'Ombudsman' is sort of like an 'elder Statesman' role as well, then I may be interested... On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:29 AM, Daniel

Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Very cool :-). Thanks Ross and everyone! Sanjiva. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: Resending with [RESULT] tag as (reasonably) requested off list - sorry On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: This vote is now

Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
Ross - huge thanks. Great champion-ing. Paul On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: Resending with [RESULT] tag as (reasonably) requested off list - sorry On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: This vote is now

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Afkham Azeez
Thanks Ross for seeing this through. Azeez On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: This vote is now closed. The Vote passed. Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1] (note some actions require the support of your mentors).

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier
Hi Ali, On Wed, Jun 19, 2013, at 03:06 PM, Ali Lown wrote: The voting period has now passed, and we have received no votes from anyone here :( Sorry, folks are too busy debating the problems of the Incubator to take time to review Incubator releases. ;-) I'll try to take a look tonight and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: +10.99 +Inf Good grief, could there be a better candidate, in terms of either substance or symbolism? (the .9 is for Marvins amusement ;-) It worked! Marvin Humphrey

Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, As a newbie, I've generally quietly watched from the sidelines, but now I'm jumping in. +1 about expectations vs rights. In fact, it occurred to me that a booklet or pamphlet more like the What to expect whenÅ  book would be better. IMO, correctly set expectations make for happier people.

Re: Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Donald Whytock
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: 2) Apache has been around long enough and is large enough to have its own culture, with its own societal rules and tribal history. Lots of it is written down, but it is hard to find. I never thought of that...Apache

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Harui
FWIW, my concerns about an Ombudsman are: 1) I had no idea what an Ombudsman was. I'd heard of it, but never had to work with one before. I had to go look it up. If I had a complaint, I'm not sure I would know to look up that word to find the email address to complain to. 2) If you create a

Re: Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 Having also come to Apache by joining a now graduated podling (Apache Jena) I like the idea of a What to expect document and agree with pretty much everything that you lay out here. I think people outside of Apache often don't appreciate how a volunteer organization operates and many of your

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Mesos 0.12.0-incubating (RC1)

2013-06-20 Thread Benjamin Mahler
The vote to release mesos-0.12.0-incubating has passed with 3 IPMC binding +1s and 5 non-binding +1s. IPMC Binding Votes: Alex Karasulu Chris Mattman Tom White Non-Binding Votes: Vinod Kone Deepal Jayasinghe Brenden Matthews Yan Xu Andy Konwinski Thanks all! -- Forwarded message

Re: [MENTOR] Re: Missing Release Distribution in Clutch Status?

2013-06-20 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
Hey Guys, Sorry I missed this. Real quick CC to general@i.a.o. I'm not an expert in the Clutch. IPMC peeps that know the clutch, Knox has a release in the dist area: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/knox/ (^^ for example the 0.2.0 release) Can someone give us some insight as to

Re: Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Upayavira
11. In certain circumstances, there are specific people charged with certain responsibilities. Over time you can expect to learn who they are, and where they hang out. Your mentor should be able to guide you while you do learn. If, for whatever reason, they are unable or unwilling to, you can ask

Incubator Write Access

2013-06-20 Thread Rob Vesse
Could someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki My username is RobVesse Thanks, Rob

Re: Incubator Write Access

2013-06-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rob Vesse rve...@yarcdata.com wrote: Could someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki My username is RobVesse Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Rob Vesse
I have written up the suggestions so far into a wiki page https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhatToExpect The content is pretty much what has been included in this thread reorganized with a few minor grammar tweaks here and there. If people like this notion feel free to edit the page or continue

Re: Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Upayavira
To distinguish between these two documents, they have different flavours. One sets the expectations of podlings members, the other tells mentors what is expected of them. This latter one should not be forgotten. It is easy to sign up as a mentor, but not so easy to follow through. Having

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier
Hi Ali, Comments inline. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 05:24 PM, Ali Lown wrote: The result from the wave-dev vote can be found at: https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-dev/201306.mbox/%3CCABRGrVfPOwN3E8N-uScruYbxdezpfZzAJHMp8dN%2BUfpF6s%2BDGw%40mail.gmail.com%3E I find this

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread David Nalley
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Ali Lown a...@apache.org wrote: The Wave community has voted on and approved the proposal to release Apache Wave 0.4 (incubating) based on RC3. This will be the initial incubator release for Wave. The proposal for release can be found at:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread Joe Brockmeier
I should have added: please do address the problems here and re-roll and I will be sure to examine that release in a timely fashion. Don't let a -1 discourage you, as most incubating projects have to go through a learning curve. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 06:59 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Hi Ali,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread Michael MacFadden
Joe, Thanks for your comments. Can you clarify for us the PPMC comment. I think we are a bit confused between the concepts of a top level project PMC, the incubator IPMC, the PPMC you have mentioned, and piddling mentors. I don't think we had ever discussed nominating a PPMC assuming that

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread Craig L Russell
Just one quick question. I notice that you include the bouncy-castle jar in the distribution. Have you looked into the need to file an ECCN for crypto? Regards, Craig On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:00 PM, David Nalley wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Ali Lown a...@apache.org wrote: The Wave

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread sebb
On 21 June 2013 00:59, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: Hi Ali, Comments inline. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 05:24 PM, Ali Lown wrote: The result from the wave-dev vote can be found at:

Re: [MENTOR] Re: Missing Release Distribution in Clutch Status?

2013-06-20 Thread David Crossley
Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: Hey Guys, Sorry I missed this. Real quick CC to general@i.a.o. I'm not an expert in the Clutch. IPMC peeps that know the clutch, Knox has a release in the dist area: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/knox/ (^^ for example the 0.2.0

please follow through to publish doc changes

2013-06-20 Thread David Crossley
The problem seems to be getting worse. Some people make source changes to docs, but then do not follow through to publish those changes via the CMS. Then other changes bank up behind the logjam. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html -David

Re: please follow through to publish doc changes

2013-06-20 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
Hi David, That's my bad. Having not published the site using the CMS since we switched over, I knew I had to read the docs again but hadn't. I fully intended to though. Anyways, sorry. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior

Re: please follow through to publish doc changes

2013-06-20 Thread David Crossley
Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: Hi David, That's my bad. Having not published the site using the CMS since we switched over, I knew I had to read the docs again but hadn't. I fully intended to though. Not only you. It is a common holdup. There are various routes for editing, as explained