Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread jan i
On 23 November 2014 at 03:16, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com wrote: All, The current way the proposal page is written, the wiki for proposals is optional. I don't think this is the case any longer, since it looks like we request that all proposals get put there first. Does anyone

RE: [VOTE] (new) Release Apache Metamodel incubating 4.3.0

2014-11-23 Thread Kasper Sørensen
Hi everyone, The voting period is over but we only have two IPMC votes so far (Henry Saputra and Arvind Prabhakar via the dev@metamodel mailing list). Can we proceed to release or should we somehow reactivate the vote? Best regards, Kasper From: Henry

Re: [VOTE] (new) Release Apache Metamodel incubating 4.3.0

2014-11-23 Thread jan i
On 23 November 2014 at 12:23, Kasper Sørensen kasper.soren...@humaninference.com wrote: Hi everyone, The voting period is over but we only have two IPMC votes so far (Henry Saputra and Arvind Prabhakar via the dev@metamodel mailing list). Can we proceed to release or should we somehow

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel incubating 4.3.0

2014-11-23 Thread Kasper Sørensen
Hi everyone, I'm happy to be able to tell that the VOTE for releasing Apache MetaModel 4.3.0-incubating has passed with 6 votes (3 binding). Kasper Sørensen Henry Saputra * Arvind Prabhakar * Jan I * Alberto Rodriguez Tomasz Guzialek * - indicates IPMC Thank you to everyone who participated.

Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Nov 22, 2014, at 6:16 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com wrote: All, The current way the proposal page is written, the wiki for proposals is optional. I don't think this is the case any longer, since it looks like we request that all proposals get put there first. Other IPMC

Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread John D. Ament
Alan, I'm referring to [1], where under Developing The Proposal and The Vote it seems to list the wiki as one solution or an option rather than the proper place to put proposals. Not any specific proposal that has come up recently. John [1]:

Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Yep, I think I understood which proposal page to which you refer to. My opinion is still the same. It doesn’t matter so long as the original vote to accept the proposal includes the entire proposal. We should always be thinking less rules, less process, less roles. Incubation is already a

Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: Does anyone mind if I rephrase the page to make it mandatory to use the wiki for proposals? I’m sorry I was “out the past few weeks. What proposal attempted to post a proposal that was not on the wiki? What

Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread jan i
On 23 November 2014 at 17:20, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: Does anyone mind if I rephrase the page to make it mandatory to use the wiki for proposals? I’m sorry I was “out the past few weeks.

Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Nov 23, 2014, at 8:40 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: I dont want to criminalize anybody, but on the other hand I would like to have 1 common place where to look for accepted proposals. Having the proposals, at least after acceptance, in one place should be beneficial to everyone, so

Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread jan i
On 23 November 2014 at 19:41, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Nov 23, 2014, at 8:40 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: I dont want to criminalize anybody, but on the other hand I would like to have 1 common place where to look for accepted proposals. Having the proposals,

RE: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I'd like it to remain pink please. (look up bikeshedding on Wikipedia if this makes no sense) Trying to be more constrictive... Proposal docs are useful. The wiki is a convenient place to find them after the fact (something I find necessary at least once a month for at least one podling).

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-23 Thread Sergio Fernández
After awaiting for feedback about my proposal, I understand there are three different aspects that should be discussed: * Cost: As Ross pointed, the potential prize is important to evaluate a solution. Although I'd love to use the professional services of the company, the toolkit is open/free

RE: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on Jan's observations, below. Also, from my experience with the Proposal for Apache OpenOffice and a few others, there is considerable refinement of proposals from first draft to the version that is essentially frozen at the time of podling-acceptance balloting. The Wiki is perfect for

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-23 Thread jan i
On 23 November 2014 at 20:37, Sergio Fernández sergio.fernan...@salzburgresearch.at wrote: After awaiting for feedback about my proposal, I understand there are three different aspects that should be discussed: * Cost: As Ross pointed, the potential prize is important to evaluate a

Re: Proposals - wiki required?

2014-11-23 Thread John D. Ament
So, my intention wasn't to start a big argument. If the feeling is that the page describes the behavior correctly let's leave it. It seemed to me like we wanted all proposals to be up on the wiki, based on the way some of the comments have come through... John On Sun Nov 23 2014 at 2:59:31 PM

RE: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-23 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Thanks for your roundup here (very useful). You are making it clear that this is something you might want to spend time on - I'll try and answer your final question (is there already any argument to say that inevitably the answer of the proof of concept will be negative?). The short answer is

Re: dashboarding incubator

2014-11-23 Thread jonathon
On 23/11/14 20:41, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Metrics do not provide this information, and indeed can detract from the community health issues. In looking at http://projects.bitergia.com/apache-cloudstack/browser/, I'm wondering if any meaningful metrics can be provided. Take for