[VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

This is to call for a vote for the release of Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating. The Apache Brooklyn community have voted in favour of making this release: Vote thread: https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-brooklyn-dev/201507.mbox/%3CCABQFKi1WapCMRUqQ93E7Qow5onKgL3nyG3HW9Cse7vo%2BtUC

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

Got it, thank you very much, Justin, for the explanation! On behalf of the Apache Zeppelin (incubating) PPMC I have contacted the original author and he agreed to contribute this code, with the proper Apache 2.0 licence header, directly to the Apache Zeppelin (incubating) codebase as a separate pa

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

Hi, > Regarding the issue raised by Edward - we were under impression that > this particular contribution is covered by > https://github.com/apache/incubator-zeppelin/blob/master/NOTICE#L53 > (as we use the code from > https://code.google.com/p/selenium/issues/detail?id=1361 that was not > merged

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

Apologies for not timely response. Thank you Konstantin and Justin for your reviews - we have filed the issues to track that your feedback is going to be addressed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZEPPELIN-174 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZEPPELIN-175 Regarding the issue raised by E

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Chris, Thanks for bringing up the Tez discussion. I think that it was a great example of a community responding to questions and criticisms in a very open and evidence based manner. I was strongly -1 on that proposal originally based on similar grounds to what has been raised in this thread. Th

Re: [DISCUSS] Diversity policy (WAS: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > If by this you mean the Incubator has taught the podling what it needs > to know, and the podling is following the best practices of the Apache > Way, then we are in full agreement. I don't see the need to single me > out here, I am not disagr

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > On 2015-07-22 01:17, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Gruno >> wrote: >> >> Nitpicking time. >>> >>> Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: >>> "GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of

[DISCUSS] Diversity policy (WAS: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On 07/22/2015 01:36 AM, Chris Douglas wrote: > Daniel- > This has been discussed recently in graduations for Tez [1], Drill > [2], and other projects whose continued incubation serves no purpose. If by this you mean the Incubator has taught the podling what it needs to know, and the podling is fol

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

(Sorry if the placement of this reply is wrong, but this thread is getting long and tarting to branch a bit...) Maybe the question we should be asking is: Has the ignite podling demonstrated sufficient dedication to diversity that it can survive as a TLP, and not be overly influenced by a singl

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Daniel- This has been discussed recently in graduations for Tez [1], Drill [2], and other projects whose continued incubation serves no purpose. They've completed a curriculum that clears their IP and introduces them to the ASF's infrastructure, procedures, and culture. The project must be open, a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On 2015-07-22 01:17, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Nitpicking time. Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: "GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created by GridGain, which includes optional LGPL dependencies, su

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> The question of diversity in this case is not "are we enough >> men/women/whatever", the question here is "is there a single corporate >> entity with a deciding vote in the project?". >

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Nitpicking time. > > Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: > "GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created > by GridGain, which includes optional LGPL dependencies, such as > Hibernate L2 cache integration and

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > The question of diversity in this case is not "are we enough > men/women/whatever", the question here is "is there a single corporate > entity with a deciding vote in the project?". > Actually, I would hope that the criterion is whether ther

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:38AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > On 2015-07-22 00:41, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:17AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >>Is this a reply to me or to Pierre? > >> > >>I have not mentioned 63% anywhere. I have stated that we have a > >>policy that states

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

The following page of the Incubator project states 'The project is not highly dependent on any single contributor (there are at least 3 legally independent committers and there is no single company or entity that is vital to the success of the project)'. https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Inc

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On 2015-07-22 00:47, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:33AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 2015-07-22 00:15, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Accusation of what exactly? Quoting Roy out of context. Here's what you said: "Quoting Roy

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:33AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 2015-07-22 00:15, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >>Accusation of what exactly? > >Quoting Roy out of context. > > > >Here's what you said: "Quoting Roy out of context is not a Hail Mary

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On 2015-07-22 00:41, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:17AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Is this a reply to me or to Pierre? I have not mentioned 63% anywhere. I have stated that we have a policy that states that a podling must have an open and diverse meritocratic community. The

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:04 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > Another minor nitpick: > > On the people page of the ignite website, some are tagged as "PMC" and > there is a tag for "PMC Chair." Until official graduation, that should > probably change to "PPMC" and the "PMC Chair" tag be removed, sinc

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:17AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Is this a reply to me or to Pierre? > > I have not mentioned 63% anywhere. I have stated that we have a > policy that states that a podling must have an open and diverse > meritocratic community. The link you put in your reply says exactly >

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On 2015-07-22 00:15, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: Accusation of what exactly? Quoting Roy out of context. Here's what you said: "Quoting Roy out of context is not a Hail Mary you can just throw out there when someone disagrees with you." To

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Is this a reply to me or to Pierre? I have not mentioned 63% anywhere. I have stated that we have a policy that states that a podling must have an open and diverse meritocratic community. The link you put in your reply says exactly that. With regards, Daniel. On 2015-07-22 00:16, Konstantin

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Accusation of what exactly? Quoting Roy out of context. Here's what you said: "Quoting Roy out of context is not a Hail Mary you can just throw out there when someone disagrees with you." > To the best of my knowledge, Roy has not been a pa

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Sorry, which part of the quoted policy the 63% is allegedly scraping out? For easy reference, here's the link https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html to the document containing the section of "Creating an Open and Diverse community". So far I haven't heard a single matter of fact

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Accusation of what exactly? To the best of my knowledge, Roy has not been a part of the Ignite discussion, nor is he quoting policy in that particular sentence, but stating his opinion that the published Incubator policy should be overlooked (to which I disagree). Yes, he explains in rigorous d

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Another minor nitpick: On the people page of the ignite website, some are tagged as "PMC" and there is a tag for "PMC Chair." Until official graduation, that should probably change to "PPMC" and the "PMC Chair" tag be removed, since AFAIK podlings don't have VPs. -Taylor > On Jul 21, 2015, at

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:44PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > A lot has changed in the period after the posting of Roy. Back then there > seemed to have been less concern regarding independence and diversity. We > now have a code of conduct (even though some are convinced that these are > mere guidelines

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

I have seen top level projects, with majority of PMCs come from paid employees of a single company, suffer of growth and development when the employees of such company stop contributing to the project. Going back to Apache Ignite, since it is the main core of GridGain I doubt the project will be a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Quoting Roy out of context Daniel, unless you can substantiate the above claim I suggest you retract your statement. In open communities an accusation that you just threw at me carries a lot of weight and I will absolutely NOT tolerate basele

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

A lot has changed in the period after the posting of Roy. Back then there seemed to have been less concern regarding independence and diversity. We now have a code of conduct (even though some are convinced that these are mere guidelines when it comes to a project's independence). Diversity is not

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

While Roy is indeed a smart man, there is no BDFL in the ASF. Quoting Roy out of context is not a Hail Mary you can just throw out there when someone disagrees with you. Several people, including several IPMC members have expressed concerns. Address them properly instead of insisting on your wa

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Please re-read the quote from Roy: "There is no diversity requirement at the ASF. There is a behavior requirement for graduation and a behavior requirement for TLPs. We must not confuse the two." and later "I'd urge folks to fix the docs, but I know where that leads ... and I have no cycles to

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 05:13PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > It seems to me the spirit of the diversity statement is about project > survival: > > > A healthy project should survive the departure of any single contributor > > or employer of contributors. > > So I would think satisfying that req

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

It seems to me the spirit of the diversity statement is about project survival: > A healthy project should survive the departure of any single contributor > or employer of contributors. So I would think satisfying that requirement wouldn’t necessarily involve a percentage, but rather a simpl

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:08PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Nitpicking time. > > Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: > "GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created > by GridGain, which includes optional LGPL dependencies, such as > Hibernate L2 cache integration and

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Yet, the graduation of the projects like Apache Tez had happened with close to 100% PPMC employed by the same company. Shall IPMC first workout what diversity means in numbers and then apply it to all podlings, instead of doing this arbitrary? And what that number should be? Would it need to be 47

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Nitpicking time. Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says: "GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created by GridGain, which includes optional LGPL dependencies, such as Hibernate L2 cache integration and Geospatial Indexing. It benefits from continued testing by GridGa

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On 21 July 2015 at 22:48, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 07/21/2015 10:39 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation. > > So we should just scrap the bit in the Incubator policy that says "A > major criterion for graduation is to have developed an ope

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On 07/21/2015 10:39 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation. So we should just scrap the bit in the Incubator policy that says "A major criterion for graduation is to have developed an open and diverse meritocratic community."? I think not. >

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On 21 July 2015 at 22:39, Ted Dunning wrote: > Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation. > Reading other lists, it seems to me that board is very concerned about TLPs that are dominated by one company. We (ASF) want to ensure that a project is not controlled by a company

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:30PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Thanks, Konstantin, for the enlighting quote. And the link leading to > nowhere. Or, I didn't know that unique message Id isn't enough nowadays. Here's the easier link for your convenience ;) http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation. What is important is that the committers and PMC of the new project understand how to make releases and are building community. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Thanks, Konstantin, for the enlighting quot

[NOTICE] Lens VOTEing for graduation

FYI, Lens is currently VOTEing on a graduation resolution following successful discussions thereof. -Jakob -- Forwarded message -- From: Jakob Homan Date: 21 July 2015 at 13:27 Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Lens from Incubator To: d...@lens.incubator.apache.org Following two posit

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Thanks, Konstantin, for the enlighting quote. And the link leading to nowhere. If we take away the names of the mentors from the list (Branko, Roman and yours) as well as those in other projects (Evans) from the list of intended project members, the situation even grows worse. Then the number grow

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Actually, given that this project was a spin-out of an internal project, this is a stunningly low number to have achieved so quickly (assuming that the 37% are actually active, that is). Kudos. +1 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, amareshwarisr . wrote: > Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

The so-called diversity requirement has been discussed on this list for a number of times. Most recent is the graduation of Flume project (back in 2012). Here's a quote from that thread (kudos to Roy; for those who want to look it up in the archives MessageId is 73db2e64-87d5-4dd5-91fb-403464895..

Re: [NOTICE] Yetus TLP proposal

Added. Thanks for the suggestion David. On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:57 AM, David Nalley wrote: > Please consider using commits@ - that's a well known design pattern > that is used pervasively. > > If you need notifications@ in addition, that's okay too, but there are > lots of things that assume

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2)

Apache Ignite 1.3.0 released. Maven artifacts released, sources and convenience binaries moved to svn/~/release, site updated. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Yakov Zhdanov wrote: > Hello! > > Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2) has been accepted. > > Here are the votes received: > >- Justin

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

Thanks to Justin for his thorough review, as always. I have pinged back the Apache Zeppelin community to see if we could quickly address the issue. - Henry On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Edward J. Yoon wrote: >> Has the author of >> zeppelin-server/src/test/java/com/webautomation/ScreenCaptu

[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2)

Hello! Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2) has been accepted. Here are the votes received: - Justin Mclean (binding) - Konstantin Boudnik (binding) - Branko Cibej (binding) - Sergey Khisamov - Nick Tikhonov - Ira Vasilinets - Semyon Boikov - Alex Kuznetsov - Yakov Zhdano

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Twill-0.6.0-incubating

Signature file looks good Hash files look good LICENSE file looks good NOTICE file looks good DISCLAIMER file exist Source compiled and passed tests +1 (binding) Good job guys - Henry On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Terence Yim wrote: > Hi all, > > This is to call for a vote on releasing Ap

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

It seems that 63% of the podling's PMC is affiliated to 1 organisation (Gridgrain). Have sufficient grounds been covered to ensure diversity and independece? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM * Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Service

Re: Kylin mentor

Hi Luke, I’d be willing to act as a mentor to Kylin. If that’s okay with the Kylin community, let me know and I’ll update appropriate files. -Taylor > On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Luke Han wrote: > > Thanks Julian to step up, as previous advisor, you already give us a lot of > help and guide

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, amareshwarisr . wrote: > Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the project is set to " the automated > and managed flow of information between systems." > > I dont see any such on project website - > http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/ > Looks like a copy from NIFI's

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On 21.07.2015 03:26, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > Thanks for kicking off this discussion, Dmirtiy. > > As one of the mentors I think this podling is ready to get graduated. The > process of "indocrInating" this group of people into the Apache Way was not > always a walk in a park and we had our sh

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the project is set to " the automated and managed flow of information between systems." I dont see any such on project website - http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/ Looks like a copy from NIFI's graduation discussion - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/inc

[VOTE] Release Apache Twill-0.6.0-incubating

Hi all, This is to call for a vote on releasing Apache Twill 0.6.0-incubating. This is the seventh release for Twill. Apache Twill is an abstraction over Apache Hadoop YARN that reduces the complexity of developing distributed applications. Vote on twill-dev: http://s.apache.org/ABI Result on v

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Kylin-0.7.2-incubating

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > * All of the java files are in org.apache.kylin package. Only exceptions > were in the > atopcalcite module: > * net.hydromatic.optiq.runtime > * org.eigenbase.sql2rel > Are those classes coming from a different package? Do you

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Kylin v0.7.2-incubating released

Hello The Apache Kylin team would like to announce the release of Apache Kylin 0.7.2-incubating. Apache Kylin is an open source Distributed Analytics Engine, provides SQL interface and multi-dimensional analysis (OLAP) on Hadoop supporting extremely large datasets. More details on Apache Kylin c

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Kylin-0.7.2-incubating

This vote passes with 6 +1s and no 0 or -1 votes: +1 Justin Mclean (binding) +1 Henry Saputra (binding) +1 Owen O'Malley (binding) +1 Ted Dunning (binding) +1 Julian Hyde (binding) +1 Luke Han Thanks everyone. We’ll now roll the release out to the mirrors. Luke Han, on behalf of Apache Kylin PP

Re: Kylin mentor

Thanks Julian to step up, as previous advisor, you already give us a lot of help and guide. Really appreciated to be Apache Kylin's official mentor. If anyone else would like to help us, please also leave message here. Thank you very much. Luke On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Julian Hyde wro